No dates? Shoot a bunch of people. Santa Barbara Drive By.

[Ardoki]

Reason #42 why I don't like to disclose having Asperger syndrome. I don't want people thinking I'll be the next Cho Seung-Hui or Adam Lanza or Elliot Rodger. I was 28 when I lost my virginity. (32 now.) Yes, there were many times in my life when it got to me and I did get in a lot of trouble at school and university seeking dates, and I did feel it was fucked up that meaner, nastier and uglier guys got chosen over me. I managed to avoid resorting to violence... though it was not always easy.

Seriously, if he was having problems getting laid, and had no moral issues with it, wouldn't the cold, logical thing be to put on a mask and rape a girl rather than go postal and kill half a dozen? Not that I support sexual assault, but in comparing the harm in raping a girl and getting his dick wet to the harm of killing six people and wounding another dozen and still dying a virgin...

I also have aspergers.

The reason he did not commit rape was because he didn't want to for one reason or another.

[Llamalandia]

Reason #42 why I don't like to disclose having Asperger syndrome. I don't want people thinking I'll be the next Cho Seung-Hui or Adam Lanza or Elliot Rodger. I was 28 when I lost my virginity. (32 now.) Yes, there were many times in my life when it got to me and I did get in a lot of trouble at school and university seeking dates, and I did feel it was fucked up that meaner, nastier and uglier guys got chosen over me. I managed to avoid resorting to violence... though it was not always easy.

Seriously, if he was having problems getting laid, and had no moral issues with it, wouldn't the cold, logical thing be to put on a mask and rape a girl rather than go postal and kill half a dozen? Not that I support sexual assault, but in comparing the harm in raping a girl and getting his dick wet to the harm of killing six people and wounding another dozen and still dying a virgin...

Hmm, not to jump into lynch mob mentality mode here, but ahs anyone ever looked into a link a between violent sociopathy and asperger syndrome? I mean, that's three pretty solid anecedotes, which sure don't necessary establish much of anything but they certainly do beg the question of a possible link.

[Interdimensional Orange Juice]

It really makes me sick that people are debating that he didn't look bad- that doesn't matter. Gun control? He probably owned it legally. The real issues here are mental health and misogyny. Specifically, the stigma that being mentally unwell is bad or means that somebody is {crazy} or {evil} (especially among conservatives, just an observation). It's that stigma that kept him from getting the help he needed. He was obviously susceptible to society too, because around everyone constantly are the images that women are sexual beings and he was under that impression, that they should have sex with him just because he had male genitalia. Nobody is really seeing the underlying problems.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

No I'm acquainted with such a notion (though I've never heard that specific term used before.) It's like how you meet someone you think is attractive and then you get to know them and they have a hideous personality and all of a sudden you don't them as quite as pretty or attractive as you did at first glance. Nah, I get it. Still seems unlikely that no one would be like, meh screw it I'll date the creep with decent looks plenty of cash and an awesome car.

Ok, try the self-preservation instinct if you can't grasp it as 'likely'.

And please, knock off your winky smiles. Every. Goram. Post. Really.

It's flippant, dismissive, and disrespectful to everyone posting in reply to you in all seriousness. It smacks of trolling, when you add it to your off-the-cuff 'oh god I am so cute' replies, and does absolutely nothing for your arguments.

Such as they are.

(This said with mod-hat firmly of in the corner somewhere, player to player, no official tone involved being as I am involved in the discussion. Should anyone have any doubts whatsoever.)

[Llamalandia]

Actually, I dunno if Fartsniffage is aware, but it was more the whole series of jokes about BMW drivers.

Ban [Insert Blank] is a universal mockery of gun control, especially in a thread concerning a mass shooting.

Actually, i've gotta hand it to the pro gun control crowd for largely leaving that out of a mass shooting discussion for once. Seems as though people have decided that really mostly on anecdotal incidents as a basis for policy decisions might not be the wisest course. Either that it may be because he relied on handguns if I recall correctly and not any more easily demonized "assault weapons".

[Llamalandia]

No I'm acquainted with such a notion (though I've never heard that specific term used before.) It's like how you meet someone you think is attractive and then you get to know them and they have a hideous personality and all of a sudden you don't them as quite as pretty or attractive as you did at first glance. Nah, I get it. Still seems unlikely that no one would be like, meh screw it I'll date the creep with decent looks plenty of cash and an awesome car.

Ok, try the self-preservation instinct if you can't grasp it as 'likely'.

And please, knock off your winky smiles. Every. Goram. Post. Really.

It's flippant, dismissive, and disrespectful to everyone posting in reply to you in all seriousness. It smacks of trolling, when you add it to your off-the-cuff 'oh god I am so cute' replies, and does absolutely nothing for your arguments.

Such as they are.

(This said with mod-hat firmly of in the corner somewhere, player to player, no official tone involved being as I am involved in the discussion. Should anyone have any doubts whatsoever.)

Well I can certainly use other smileys if you prefer.

Also not it's by no means every post, heck some post remain entirely smiley fre, though I admit those are more rare.

I generally just don't think the wink is that much of an indication of non-seriousness. I mean, when I'm not being serious I generally end with rather than anything else.

[Ardoki]

Reason #42 why I don't like to disclose having Asperger syndrome. I don't want people thinking I'll be the next Cho Seung-Hui or Adam Lanza or Elliot Rodger. I was 28 when I lost my virginity. (32 now.) Yes, there were many times in my life when it got to me and I did get in a lot of trouble at school and university seeking dates, and I did feel it was fucked up that meaner, nastier and uglier guys got chosen over me. I managed to avoid resorting to violence... though it was not always easy.

Seriously, if he was having problems getting laid, and had no moral issues with it, wouldn't the cold, logical thing be to put on a mask and rape a girl rather than go postal and kill half a dozen? Not that I support sexual assault, but in comparing the harm in raping a girl and getting his dick wet to the harm of killing six people and wounding another dozen and still dying a virgin...

Hmm, not to jump into lynch mob mentality mode here, but ahs anyone ever looked into a link a between violent sociopathy and asperger syndrome? I mean, that's three pretty solid anecedotes, which sure don't necessary establish much of anything but they certainly do beg the question of a possible link.

I don't think there is a link. However you raise an interesting point.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

Well I can certainly use other smileys if you prefer.

Also not it's by no means every post, heck some post remain entirely smiley fre, though I admit those are more rare.

I generally just don't think the wink is that much of an indication of non-seriousness. I mean, when I'm not being serious I generally end with rather than anything else.

I'll believe it when I see it. Statement stands, your casual dismissal noted. You've heard a strong opinion on it, and reasons for it. You can add spam to the mix if that makes you feel better, because it is. Just scroll back on through for an example. Now back to topic. Grazie.

[Llamalandia]

Well, looks like feminists are right. Who would have thought.

I find such a statement oddly annoying if nothing else. I mean were feminists right that women should have the vote? of course. Were they right about temperance and alcohol prohibition? Hell no. Are they right about equal pay for equal work? Sure (with a few caveats). Are they right about banning the word "bossy"? Hell no. It seems for everything theyre right about there's something else there horribly terribly utterly wrong about.

That said, this doesn't necessarily seem like a feminist issue. I mean as Isee he didn't just want mindless sex he wanted a meanigful relationship with a deep connection to a real person (and sex). I mean, he makes clear he doesn't like the way some douchbag guys treat their girlfriends which seems like a position many a feminist would agree with.

[Lydenburg]

That does seem to be it, but as he himself pointed out there were obviously guys with worst personalities than him who no doubt treat girls like shit and yet still get all tail they can handle so to speak.

Obviously, big fat rich mens. They always end up at the top, see?

[Cannot think of a name]

So...kind of related:

A man opened fire on three women early Saturday after the women refused to have sex with him and his friends, according to the Stockton Police.

Authorities said the women accompanied the men to Rosemarie Lane, near Pacific Avenue and March Lane. Around 1:45 a.m., the women declined when the men asked them to have sex, and the men ordered them to leave.

As the women were leaving, one of the men fired about eight rounds from a 9mm handgun at them, but no one was injured.

So, luckily he's a shitty shot, but in the same vein...so entitled to pussy that violence ensues when they don't get it.

There are a lot of factors that go into any act of this kind, sure, but it doesn't seem out of line to have a discussion about sex and expectations and all that entails.

[The Serbian Empire]

Well, looks like feminists are right. Who would have thought.

I find such a statement oddly annoying if nothing else. I mean were feminists right that women should have the vote? of course. Were they right about temperance and alcohol prohibition? Hell no. Are they right about equal pay for equal work? Sure (with a few caveats). Are they right about banning the word "bossy"? Hell no. It seems for everything theyre right about there's something else there horribly terribly utterly wrong about.

That said, this doesn't necessarily seem like a feminist issue. I mean as Isee he didn't just want mindless sex he wanted a meanigful relationship with a deep connection to a real person (and sex). I mean, he makes clear he doesn't like the way some douchbag guys treat their girlfriends which seems like a position many a feminist would agree with.

Exactly, they may be right on many things, but outside of an atomic clock, there's a chance for errors.

[Saruhan]

That does seem to be it, but as he himself pointed out there were obviously guys with worst personalities than him who no doubt treat girls like shit and yet still get all tail they can handle so to speak.

Obviously, big fat rich mens. They always end up at the top, see?

Wow, this isn't sexist and markedly incorrect sociologically whatsoever

[Llamalandia]

That does seem to be it, but as he himself pointed out there were obviously guys with worst personalities than him who no doubt treat girls like shit and yet still get all tail they can handle so to speak.

Obviously, big fat rich mens. They always end up at the top, see?

Seems about right, of course that pic implies there doesn't exist any smart guys.

Unless were merely to assume that all smart boys-->rich guys.

[The Serbian Empire]

Obviously, big fat rich mens. They always end up at the top, see?

Wow, this isn't sexist and markedly incorrect sociologically whatsoever

As rich men tend to be taller and skinnier than the general public.

[Cannot think of a name]

Obviously, big fat rich mens. They always end up at the top, see?

Seems about right, of course that pic implies there doesn't exist any smart guys.

Unless were merely to assume that all smart boys-->rich guys.

You know you're totally allowed to submit posts without the use of a smiley. The forum totally allows for that.

[Unibot III]

How dare women not sleep with this fine specimen of the human species...

[Saruhan]

Wow, this isn't sexist and markedly incorrect sociologically whatsoever

As rich men tend to be taller and skinnier than the general public.

Exactly, the rich men have to be smaller!

[Interdimensional Orange Juice]

Well, looks like feminists are right. Who would have thought.

I find such a statement oddly annoying if nothing else. I mean were feminists right that women should have the vote? of course. Were they right about temperance and alcohol prohibition? Hell no. Are they right about equal pay for equal work? Sure (with a few caveats). Are they right about banning the word "bossy"? Hell no. It seems for everything theyre right about there's something else there horribly terribly utterly wrong about.

That said, this doesn't necessarily seem like a feminist issue. I mean as Isee he didn't just want mindless sex he wanted a meanigful relationship with a deep connection to a real person (and sex). I mean, he makes clear he doesn't like the way some douchbag guys treat their girlfriends which seems like a position many a feminist would agree with.

Hate to intervene, but it seems like he's expecting girls to drop their metaphorical relationship panties at his feet. He's expecting a relationship, but expecting anything in terms of relationships from people is sorta messed up... I do have to agree, the whole feminism movement isn't always right (though I categorize myself as a feminist usually). There is a flaw there, though. Expecting anything is wrong. Relationships that are healthy require mutual affection, and it sounds like...I don't know. Just not like that. *shudders as I make sure to put my pepper spray in my laptop bag*

[Llamalandia]

I find such a statement oddly annoying if nothing else. I mean were feminists right that women should have the vote? of course. Were they right about temperance and alcohol prohibition? Hell no. Are they right about equal pay for equal work? Sure (with a few caveats). Are they right about banning the word "bossy"? Hell no. It seems for everything theyre right about there's something else there horribly terribly utterly wrong about.

That said, this doesn't necessarily seem like a feminist issue. I mean as Isee he didn't just want mindless sex he wanted a meanigful relationship with a deep connection to a real person (and sex). I mean, he makes clear he doesn't like the way some douchbag guys treat their girlfriends which seems like a position many a feminist would agree with.

Exactly, they may be right on many things, but outside of an atomic clock, there's a chance for errors.

I take issue with specific modifier, I'd think a "few" would be more fitting personally, at least in regards to modern feminists. But again I don't think feminist theory is especially applicable here, as the guy didn't just want sex.

[Llamalandia]

Seems about right, of course that pic implies there doesn't exist any smart guys.

Unless were merely to assume that all smart boys-->rich guys.

You know you're totally allowed to submit posts without the use of a smiley. The forum totally allows for that.

I know I just prefer not to. Smileys make me happy and I'm merely sharing that happiness with the world.

[The Serbian Empire]

As rich men tend to be taller and skinnier than the general public.

Exactly, the rich men have to be smaller!

At least in the BMI department. And taller.

[Llamalandia]

Obviously, big fat rich mens. They always end up at the top, see?

Wow, this isn't sexist and markedly incorrect sociologically whatsoever

glad we all agree then.

I think it's certainly a gross oversimplification. I mean even simple memes have exceptions. I do think this guy may have intrepetted the even simpler notion that "chicks did bad boys" to not only be literal, but also to mean that "bad boys" == "arrogant asshats", an obviously fallacious equivalency.

[Keyboard Warriors]

I feel bad for him, 1. if he was more handsome or the girls he liked lowered their standards this could've been avoided.

Murder isn't acceptable but he was born to fail at dating pretty girls, 2. which is probably who he wanted to date.

3. His dating life was set on hard from the day he was born, just look at him.

1. Or, you know, he should've stopped being such an entitled fucking asshat and learned to deal with it.

2. And? Doesn't mean he's entitled to dating/fucking pretty girls.

3. Not really. He wasn't that bad looking. Even if that weren't the case, that doesn't entitle him to "sympathy" or "understanding", because "poor Quasimodo couldn't find Esmeralda".

Just on the surface, I'd say him trying to "deal with it" didn't go so well. Telling someone to "deal with it" for anything other than a one-off outburst about something utterly insignificant is about the worst piece of advice you can give.

Maybe if people could look past the flash car, the condo and his rich parents, they'd see a young adult who was really fucking angry and in desperate need of psychological help. Maybe if people had of been more understanding of the fact that he was angry, not why but that he was, he wouldn't have tried to shoot up a sorority.

[Dakini]

More shallow and vapid than a man who thought he was entitled to date attractive women and when he was denied this, went on a shooting spree?

It's only lucky that his plan failed miserably (he tried to get into a sorority house to shoot up all the occupants, but nobody let him in) or the death toll would have been larger.

Yeah, the Southern California area has no shortage of vapid people.

Once again: More vapid and shallow than a man who thought that beautiful women owed him sex?