No dates? Shoot a bunch of people. Santa Barbara Drive By.

[Novorobo]

Considering the overwhelming cultural narrative where unattractive men are entitled to relationships but unattractive women aren't... especially the narrative that exists in the circles this guy was running in...

Which has nothing to do with the people you were responding to.

Also, I'd hardly call it an overwhelming cultural narrative where unattractive women aren't entitled to relationships.

Not really. Not only do I doubt that we'll actually see a woman go on a shooting rampage because she can't get a date, but there is this narrative that men somehow deserve dates, but can't get them while women don't but easily can (which ignores the women who can't).

Well there you go. You just described what the narrative is actually about. The question isn't of who "deserves" them more but who needs the help more.

I think it's actually a somewhat over-rated narrative, but there's no sense misrepresenting it, and certainly no sense using it to automatically assume sexism in a statement without actually asking the individual in question whether or not they'd apply the same to the gender-flip.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Considering the overwhelming cultural narrative where unattractive men are entitled to relationships but unattractive women aren't... especially the narrative that exists in the circles this guy was running in...

Which has nothing to do with the people you were responding to.

Also, I'd hardly call it an overwhelming cultural narrative where unattractive women aren't entitled to relationships.

Not really. Not only do I doubt that we'll actually see a woman go on a shooting rampage because she can't get a date, but there is this narrative that men somehow deserve dates, but can't get them while women don't but easily can (which ignores the women who can't).

Well there you go. You just described what the narrative is actually about. The question isn't of who "deserves" them more but who needs the help more.

I think it's actually a somewhat over-rated narrative, but there's no sense misrepresenting it, and certainly no sense using it to automatically assume sexism in a statement without actually asking the individual in question whether or not they'd apply the same to the gender-flip.

A statement is equally sexist whether it is gender-flipped or not.

"Women deserve a relationship with men" is as equally sexist as "Men deserve a relationship with women" in the sense that individuals are entitled to be with a person of the other sex.

[Blakk Metal]

He said he targeted (or was going to target) blonde girls. What race usually has blonde people and is often associated with blond hair?

muh hate crimes.

In his manifesto he also talked about putting all women in concentration camps.

I want a source for this.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

In his manifesto he also talked about putting all women in concentration camps.

I want a source for this.

The video is a primary source.

If you want to get into the discussion go see it. We don't have to use secondary sources when he himself uploaded a YouTube video.

[Dakini]

As far as I know it's a horrifically sexist website full of terrible people.

How is how is making a bunch of women feel bad 'horrific'?

It's not about making a bunch of women feel bad. It's generally about how to commit date rape and a platform for advocating violence against women.

[Othelos]

I reread the article on yahoo several times about a victim's father. It pisses me off that someone could be so selfish as to fucking MURDER people because they couldn't get laid.

Why does it matter so much? It's not like he was that old, either.

[Blakk Metal]

I want a source for this.

The video is a primary source.

The video won't play.

How is how is making a bunch of women feel bad 'horrific'?

It's not about making a bunch of women feel bad. It's generally about how to commit date rape and a platform for advocating violence against women.

Sources for both?

[The Joseon Dynasty]

In his manifesto he also talked about putting all women in concentration camps.

I want a source for this.

This rambling pile of shit. Just ctrl-f "camps" and him talking about concentration camps for women appears toward the end.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I reread the article on yahoo several times about a victim's father. It pisses me off that someone could be so selfish as to fucking MURDER people because they couldn't get laid.

Why does it matter so much? It's not like he was that old, either.

He was 22, to be fair.

However, it still doesn't excuse him.

[Saiwania]

Unless Rodger was a Muslim, a nonsequitur and thus still a pointless cheap shot.

Alright, I was in the wrong and I'll try not to speculate out loud again. But I do suspect that he might've been seeking some form of martyrdom, for all I know his motivations had nothing to do with religion.

But if he was dead set on suicide by cop, it surely involved some twisted belief that there would be some form of reward for his efforts after death. The other alternative being that he accepted that it was going to be the end and gave up on everything he wanted.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

The video is a primary source.

The video won't play.

It's not about making a bunch of women feel bad. It's generally about how to commit date rape and a platform for advocating violence against women.

Sources for both?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EVEq-NikxA

[Blakk Metal]

I want a source for this.

This rambling pile of shit. Just ctrl-f "camps" and him talking about concentration camps for women appears toward the end.

I've read the epilouge and have made two observations:

1. He's clearly been exposed to neoreaction.
2. Why would you need to kill most of the women? Why can you just force them to marry nice men?

[Ardoki]

The main things I don't like about him are his racism, sexism and misogyny. I don't really care about what he did, I think his personal views are worse than what he did.

being a racist or a sexist is worse than committing multiple murders?

To me, yes. However most people would not feel that way. I am somewhat different from most people.

[Dakini]

It's not about making a bunch of women feel bad. It's generally about how to commit date rape and a platform for advocating violence against women.

Sources for both?

Well, since it's against forum rules to link to his website (for good reason), you can take some summaries. He advocates violence against women, he suggests beating and demeaning women to maintain a relationship for starters...

[Dakini]

Unless Rodger was a Muslim, a nonsequitur and thus still a pointless cheap shot.

Alright, I was in the wrong and I'll try not to speculate out loud again. But I do suspect that he might've been seeking some form of martyrdom, for all I know his motivations had nothing to do with religion.

But if he was dead set on suicide by cop, it surely involved some twisted belief that there would be some form of reward for his efforts after death. The other alternative being that he accepted that it was going to be the end and gave up on everything he wanted.

There's no evidence that he wanted anything other than revenge for perceived slights.

[Ardoki]

Sources for both?

Well, since it's against forum rules to link to his website (for good reason), you can take some summaries. He advocates violence against women, he suggests beating and demeaning women to maintain a relationship for starters...

I hate sexists and misogynists. My nation is ruled by one.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Unless Rodger was a Muslim, a nonsequitur and thus still a pointless cheap shot.

Alright, I was in the wrong and I'll try not to speculate out loud again. But I do suspect that he might've been seeking some form of martyrdom, for all I know his motivations had nothing to do with religion.

But if he was dead set on suicide by cop, it surely involved some twisted belief that there would be some form of reward for his efforts after death. The other alternative being that he accepted that it was going to be the end and gave up on everything he wanted.

Or he decided to go out in a blaze of glory, knowing that he was taking down a perceived enemy in the process.

[Hladgos]

Sounds to me like the guy needed tobe turned away at the counter when buying his guns. Mentally unstable as hell.

[Llamalandia]

I think this is another case for Social Isolation. Sure, this guy is a douche-bag. He's probably one of the douchey-ist shooters I've seen, but he's still a social outcast.

Have any of you guys ever seen a shooter recently in the new splurge of mass-killers who wasn't a shunned/outcast type? Whenever they interview the perp's family/people they knew, they always say "He was so quiet. I never suspected that he'd do that." But of course after the killings, they go investigate and it turns out he's spent most of his time locked up in his room writing down/recording a manifesto about how he's going to get revenge on the people that ostracized him.

It's obvious we have a very serious mental-health issue growing in our young generation.

Yeah, except in this case the family actually did think he would do something like this. They tried to have committed before, and on top of that I believe they were actually on there way to try and stop him from doing something and on top of that immediately knew when they heard about a shooter on the news that he was the one they were talking about.

[Ardoki]

Sounds to me like the guy needed tobe turned away at the counter when buying his guns. Mentally unstable as hell.

He probably got them from his family home.

[Llamalandia]

He handles rejection poorly..

But was he ever even reallly truly rejected? I mean don't you have to actually ask someone out first to be able to be rejected?

[Llamalandia]

I just thougth of something. He was rich. Why didn't he just get a prostitute?
This is now usable as an argument to legalize it.

He probably thought he was entitled to sex without paying for it.

revenge of the nerds part IV: bowling with bimmers

Ugh. The original Revenge of the Nerds was bad enough for its treatment of women.

Wait, really? I mean the girls depicted in that film were pretty shallow and vapid as I recall, though yeah, there was that weirdly rapey seen were the girl didn't realize she was having sex with a nerd rather than her worthless jock boyfriend.

Still though, I can see more how that movie supports Rodgers more than anything else. I mean he obviously saw himself as one of the nerds.

[Llamalandia]

I feel bad for him, 1. if he was more handsome or the girls he liked lowered their standards this could've been avoided.

Murder isn't acceptable but he was born to fail at dating pretty girls, 2. which is probably who he wanted to date.

3. His dating life was set on hard from the day he was born, just look at him.

1. Or, you know, he should've stopped being such an entitled fucking asshat and learned to deal with it.

2. And? Doesn't mean he's entitled to dating/fucking pretty girls.

3. Not really. He wasn't that bad looking. Even if that weren't the case, that doesn't entitle him to "sympathy" or "understanding", because "poor Quasimodo couldn't find Esmeralda".

Meh dating based purely on sight is pretty freaking stupid anyway to be honest. I supposed I'd be interested to know what "pretty" means. I mean are we talking average looks or like Jennifer Lawerence level pretty?

[Llamalandia]

He has a great masculine bone structure, but plump lips and very thin nose, he also seems to have had a really weak chin. His supraorbital ridge also wasn't very prominent. He looked like a girl.

Still, I think it was more his personality that chased women away.

That does seem to be it, but as he himself pointed out there were obviously guys with worst personalities than him who no doubt treat girls like shit and yet still get all tail they can handle so to speak.

[Llamalandia]

Well ok maybe 100 or tow hundred times. But yeah, at some point it does make it understandable to me. I mean I can understand not wanting to live in a world where no one loves or cares about you and perhaps even wanting to "get even" so to speak with such a world. But again, doesn't mean it's OK to go out and kill a bunch of people by any means.

I've been rejected 150 times and had 6 relationships that I broke up with and were not successful and have only fucked once.

Does this mean I got a license to kill now?

Nope the bolded part is where you lost your license, had it been that you'd never had any relationships ever after that much rejection then yeah, at the very least you get to declare the world unfair. Whether or not that means you get a license to kill is a far more complicated issue.