UKIP 'Diversity Carnival' Croydon - A total disaster?

[The Scientific States]

What is that supposed to mean? Does that mean the majority of people would be what are considered minorities now?

If so, it's irrational to be in such staunch opposition of that. I don't care who lives in Britain, or in my country, the US. I just care that the people who live in my country are good, kind people, and if you don't want minorities in your country, you're sort of implying that the British are superior. It's xenophobia, simply put.

Several parts of the United States are majority-minority and they haven't imploded yet. There are complications, such as a higher poverty rate in those places, but it is nothing that can't be overcome.

Indeed. The poverty is mostly caused by pre-existing poverty from when our nation didn't really care for civil rights. And, with immigrants, it's not always easy for them to find great jobs when they first get here, but that doesn't mean they're bad.

My school is in a area that's very Hispanic, and I live near many Hispanic neighborhoods, and all those neighborhoods are fine, with warm communities, and a unique culture.

[The Genoese Cromanatum]

Yes, because interrupting a peaceful gathering with violent rhetoric and obnoxious shouting is completely a progressive, tolerant thing to do. I'm so glad that a victory was accomplish for such progressive and tolerant people such as yourself.

[The Scientific States]

Yes, because interrupting a peaceful gathering with violent rhetoric and obnoxious shouting is completely a progressive, tolerant thing to do. I'm so glad that a victory was accomplish for such progressive and tolerant people such as yourself.

Violent rhetoric? What are you talking about?

If you support freedom of speech, you should support the right of the people to voice their opinion on certain protests.

[Grave_n_idle]

I'd be interested to see where those numbers come from, and what they actually mean.

What's a 'native Brit' in that model?

Source

A native Brit is someone who can trace their heritage in whole or in part to people born in Scotland, England, Wales or Northern Ireland.

The article is called "white Britons to become minority by 2066". That doesn't bode well.

I'm a little wary of any set of statistics that divides the UK into 'native', 'white immigrant' and 'ethnic', to be honest - I'm not sure that 'white' skin is an important qualifier. I'm also not sure that 'Britons' have to be 'white' - which is one of the assumptions that the article seems to take as axiomatic.

[The Genoese Cromanatum]

Yes, because interrupting a peaceful gathering with violent rhetoric and obnoxious shouting is completely a progressive, tolerant thing to do. I'm so glad that a victory was accomplish for such progressive and tolerant people such as yourself.

Violent rhetoric? What are you talking about?

If you support freedom of speech, you should support the right of the people to voice their opinion on certain protests.

Politics, or political gatherings in general, should be conducted with a certain level of civility in regard to opposing ideas. When passion and politics mix, the result is vulgarity and violence, and that can be how many fights are started.

[The Re-Frisivisiaing]

UKIP: We accept all types, especially kebabs and gypsies.

[The Scientific States]

Violent rhetoric? What are you talking about?

If you support freedom of speech, you should support the right of the people to voice their opinion on certain protests.

Politics, or political gatherings in general, should be conducted with a certain level of civility in regard to opposing ideas. When passion and politics mix, the result is vulgarity and violence, and that can be how many fights are started.

Was their violence? Were their fights? People were just voicing their opposition to the UKIP, while others at the event voiced their support for the UKIP.

[Wind in the Willows]

UKIP: We accept all types, especially kebabs and gypsies.

They do accept all races and nationalities. Well done for recognizing that Fris, you must feel special now!

[The Genoese Cromanatum]

Was their violence? Were their fights? People were just voicing their opposition to the UKIP, while others at the event voiced their support for the UKIP.

No, however, the actions of those protesting against UKIP in this situation were very uncivilized. Slapping people with labels while not wanting to be labeled themselves(assuming they are the typical lib-dem supporter) is quite hippocritical.

[The Scientific States]

Was their violence? Were their fights? People were just voicing their opposition to the UKIP, while others at the event voiced their support for the UKIP.

No, however, the actions of those protesting against UKIP in this situation were very uncivilized. Slapping people with labels while not wanting to be labeled themselves(assuming they are the typical lib-dem supporter) is quite hippocritical.

It's not hypocritical. Who said they get butthurt when labeled? And, who said the protesters were LibDems?

[Wind in the Willows]

No, however, the actions of those protesting against UKIP in this situation were very uncivilized. Slapping people with labels while not wanting to be labeled themselves(assuming they are the typical lib-dem supporter) is quite hippocritical.

It's not hypocritical. Who said they get butthurt when labeled? And, who said the protesters were LibDems?

To be fair, a lot of people opposed to UKIP are usually left-wing, but not all.

[The Genoese Cromanatum]

It's not hypocritical. Who said they get butthurt when labeled? And, who said the protesters were LibDems?

Given the fact they are using buzzwords like bigot, racist, fundamentalist, and all that good stuff, you will find it very hard not to say they are LibDems.

[The Scientific States]

It's not hypocritical. Who said they get butthurt when labeled? And, who said the protesters were LibDems?

To be fair, a lot of people opposed to UKIP are usually left-wing, but not all.

Yes, but most left wingers aren't LibDems, and most LibDems aren't left wing.

[The Scientific States]

It's not hypocritical. Who said they get butthurt when labeled? And, who said the protesters were LibDems?

Given the fact they are using buzzwords like bigot, racist, fundamentalist, and all that good stuff, you will find it very hard not to say they are LibDems.

So, only Lib Dems, who represent 10 percent of the UK's population uses words like that? Can right wingers, Tories, Labour supports, and even UKIP supporters not use those words? Are we not supposed to use those words to describe groups, even if it's true?

[Wind in the Willows]

Given the fact they are using buzzwords like bigot, racist, fundamentalist, and all that good stuff, you will find it very hard not to say they are LibDems.

So, only Lib Dems, who represent 10 percent of the UK's population uses words like that? Can right wingers, Tories, Labour supports, and even UKIP supporters not use those words? Are we not supposed to use those words to describe groups, even if it's true?

Left-wingers, although I have seen some right-wingers in rare occasions, tend to label anyone they disagree with as either "xenophobic" or "racist", even if they aren't.

[Geilinor]

It's not hypocritical. Who said they get butthurt when labeled? And, who said the protesters were LibDems?

Given the fact they are using buzzwords like bigot, racist, fundamentalist, and all that good stuff, you will find it very hard not to say they are LibDems.

So does this make David Cameron a LibDem? http://www.lbc.co.uk/david-cameron-ukip-fruitcakes-and-loonies-63456

[Geilinor]

So, only Lib Dems, who represent 10 percent of the UK's population uses words like that? Can right wingers, Tories, Labour supports, and even UKIP supporters not use those words? Are we not supposed to use those words to describe groups, even if it's true?

Left-wingers, although I have seen some right-wingers in rare occasions, tend to label anyone they disagree with as either "xenophobic" or "racist", even if they aren't.

But why are LibDems automatically left-wingers and left-wingers LibDems according to you and Genoes Cromanatum?

[The Scientific States]

So, only Lib Dems, who represent 10 percent of the UK's population uses words like that? Can right wingers, Tories, Labour supports, and even UKIP supporters not use those words? Are we not supposed to use those words to describe groups, even if it's true?

Left-wingers, although I have seen some right-wingers in rare occasions, tend to label anyone they disagree with as either "xenophobic" or "racist", even if they aren't.

A few do, but that's a bit of a all x=y statement. I could say that US right wingers label anyone who disagree with them as "libruls", since that's a common buzzword for them.

[Wind in the Willows]

Left-wingers, although I have seen some right-wingers in rare occasions, tend to label anyone they disagree with as either "xenophobic" or "racist", even if they aren't.

But why are LibDems automatically left-wingers according to you and Genoes Cromanatum?

The majority of the party is composed of left-wingers. Clues in the name really.

[The Scientific States]

But why are LibDems automatically left-wingers according to you and Genoes Cromanatum?

The majority of the party is composed of left-wingers. Clues in the name really.

The party is fairly centrist. I support the LibDems, and I'm certainly not a left winger.

[Geilinor]

But why are LibDems automatically left-wingers according to you and Genoes Cromanatum?

The majority of the party is composed of left-wingers. Clues in the name really.

So right-wingers labeling anyone who disagrees with them "liberuhls"?

[Wind in the Willows]

The majority of the party is composed of left-wingers. Clues in the name really.

So right-wingers labeling anyone who disagrees with them "liberuhls"?

Similar to the whole left-wing thing, a lot of right-wingers (mainly in 'murica) do label their opponents as "liberals", "hippies", etc . Just like a lot of lefties label their opponents as "Fascist ", "Racist" or "Xenophobic".

[New Connorstantinople]

The issue is that UKIP is an alliance of racists and other political factions.

It isn't a racist party.

I got their manifesto through my letterbox today. On social issues, they wrote, unselfconsciously, I think:

"Political correctness is killing free speech".

Does that sound like Not-Racism to you?

The " political correctness" being addressed is the concept of suppressing opinions because the do not fit a set ideology, which from a person who is not even that politically incorrect, I find disgusting.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Several parts of the United States are majority-minority and they haven't imploded yet. There are complications, such as a higher poverty rate in those places, but it is nothing that can't be overcome.

Indeed. The poverty is mostly caused by pre-existing poverty from when our nation didn't really care for civil rights. And, with immigrants, it's not always easy for them to find great jobs when they first get here, but that doesn't mean they're bad.

My school is in a area that's very Hispanic, and I live near many Hispanic neighborhoods, and all those neighborhoods are fine, with warm communities, and a unique culture.

I can still understand why not everyone wants that in their own neighborhood. I used to live in a Latino neighborhood, and I had a decent life there, but that town has the highest crime rate in the whole state. It's a tricky subject because a lot of immigrants are good people, and we don't want to trample on their rights; but at the same time the social problems that the anti-immigrant crowd complains about are not imaginary. And it really is a lot more than just poverty. There are also problems with crime and backward ideas about gender roles.

[Nesixar]

They Shall Not Pass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeVdejmRqRw

The people turned back Oswald Moseley and the Silver Shirts, so they shall turn back Nigel Farage.

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