UKIP 'Diversity Carnival' Croydon - A total disaster?

[Ostroeuropa]

About 25% of the country is voting for UKIP.
You've probably met some of them. I have.
They aren't racists, and if you actually talked to them about their concerns you'd realize that.
get over it.

[The German Democratic Reich]

About 25% of the country is voting for UKIP.
You've probably met some of them. I have.
They aren't racists, and if you actually talked to them about their concerns you'd realize that.
get over it.

Someone with sense. Hooray.

[Alyakia]

I got their manifesto through my letterbox today. On social issues, they wrote, unselfconsciously, I think:

"Political correctness is killing free speech".

Does that sound like Not-Racism to you?

It sounds like some people defending racists ability to have the same right as everybody else to express their opinion.

oh yes. and i'm sure that someone shouting whites for rights anti-racism is a codeword for anti-white isn't racist either and is just a completely non-racist citizen who just so happens to be very concerned about equal rights. get real.

[Ostroeuropa]

It sounds like some people defending racists ability to have the same right as everybody else to express their opinion.

oh yes. and i'm sure that someone shouting whites for rights anti-racism is a codeword for anti-white isn't racist either and is just a completely non-racist citizen who just so happens to be very concerned about equal rights. get real.

I heard that sometimes, racists ask for coca cola.
Therefore, asking for coca cola is racist. After all, if you share any speech patterns with racists in makes you a racist.

[Allet Klar Chefs]

It sounds like some people defending racists ability to have the same right as everybody else to express their opinion.

See to me, it sounds more like some people trying to equate organised injustice and repression with getting scorn for being deliberately unpleasant.

[Ostroeuropa]

It sounds like some people defending racists ability to have the same right as everybody else to express their opinion.

See to me, it sounds more like some people trying to equate organised injustice and repression with getting scorn for being deliberately unpleasant.

Do you know about the speech laws in this country and the campaigns to try and get
offending someone = crime
onto the books?

http://reformsection5.org.uk/

If the Butthurt Brigade gets it's way and you upset me, and I decide to tattle, you can go to jail.
For calling me an asshole.

[Fascist Russian Empire]

Oh fucking please.

1: I would like some sauce on this "UKIP BLAME DEM FLOODS ON teh GHEYS" thing please.


2: You liberals always shout "accept muh opinions and others" and then bash anyone who isn't left wing.

1: They actually fucking did. Anybody who knows anything about recent events in the UK would know this. And, of course, the UKIP got rid of the guy who said it to try and save their reputation, but that doesn't change the fact that the UKIP is full of homophobes.

2: I'm not a liberal. Or even left wing, for that matter. Supporting marriage equality doesn't make somebody a liberal.

[The German Democratic Reich]

Oh fucking please.

1: I would like some sauce on this "UKIP BLAME DEM FLOODS ON teh GHEYS" thing please.


2: You liberals always shout "accept muh opinions and others" and then bash anyone who isn't left wing.

1: They actually fucking did. Anybody who knows anything about recent events in the UK would know this. And, of course, the UKIP got rid of the guy who said it to try and save their reputation, but that doesn't change the fact that the UKIP is full of homophobes.

2: I'm not a liberal. Or even left wing, for that matter. Supporting marriage equality doesn't make somebody a liberal.

Pardon me then, the man sounds like a fool.

But not all of UKIP is homophobic.

That is like saying a party with several racists in it is 100 percent racist.

[Ostroeuropa]

It sounds like some people defending racists ability to have the same right as everybody else to express their opinion.

See to me, it sounds more like some people trying to equate organised injustice and repression with getting scorn for being deliberately unpleasant.

"Scientology is not a religion, it is a dangerous cult."
->
BAM
Arrested.

http://reformsection5.org.uk/#?sl=3

Yes.
Political correctness was a serious threat to this country and it's liberty, and may be again in the near future if we don't keep the spirit of reform section 5 alive.

[Serif-Periogi]

UKIP set up a tent in the centre of my town‚ nobody really cares about it yet‚ they stood around handing out their "manifesto" and I had the right mind to tear it up in front of them... I think some of their ideas are abhorrent

[European Socialist Republic]

About 25% of the country is voting for UKIP.
You've probably met some of them. I have.
They aren't racists, and if you actually talked to them about their concerns you'd realize that.
get over it.

That... doesn't prove anything.
Just because non-racists vote for a party doesn't automatically make that party non-racist.

[The Emerald Dragon]

See to me, it sounds more like some people trying to equate organised injustice and repression with getting scorn for being deliberately unpleasant.

"Scientology is not a religion, it is a dangerous cult."
->
BAM
Arrested.

http://reformsection5.org.uk/#?sl=3

Yes.
Political correctness was a serious threat to this country and it's liberty, and may be again in the near future if we don't keep the spirit of reform section 5 alive.

[Ostroeuropa]

About 25% of the country is voting for UKIP.
You've probably met some of them. I have.
They aren't racists, and if you actually talked to them about their concerns you'd realize that.
get over it.

That... doesn't prove anything.
Just because non-racists vote for a party doesn't automatically make that party non-racist.

Many of it's candidates are from ethnic minorities.
Why do you think it's a racist party?

[The UK in Exile]

I got their manifesto through my letterbox today. On social issues, they wrote, unselfconsciously, I think:

"Political correctness is killing free speech".

Does that sound like Not-Racism to you?

It sounds like some people defending racists ability to have the same right as everybody else to express their opinion.

They have the same right to an opinion as everyone else. Which is to say, they have the right to have that opinion violently disagreed with.

About 25% of the country is voting for UKIP.
You've probably met some of them. I have.
They aren't racists, and if you actually talked to them about their concerns you'd realize that.
get over it.

Yeah, there's a distinction between people who vote and the party members.

[Alyakia]

oh yes. and i'm sure that someone shouting whites for rights anti-racism is a codeword for anti-white isn't racist either and is just a completely non-racist citizen who just so happens to be very concerned about equal rights. get real.

I heard that sometimes, racists ask for coca cola.
Therefore, asking for coca cola is racist. After all, if you share any speech patterns with racists in makes you a racist.

well, you see, coca cola is neither something that was invented by racists for a racist cause or something that is used near exclusively (read: 99%) of the time by racists. so maybe you should stop making shit comparisons.

[Alyakia]

That... doesn't prove anything.
Just because non-racists vote for a party doesn't automatically make that party non-racist.

Many of it's candidates are from ethnic minorities.
Why do you think it's a racist party?

1) minorities can be racist again other minorities, or even their own.
2) SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE

[Ostroeuropa]

I heard that sometimes, racists ask for coca cola.
Therefore, asking for coca cola is racist. After all, if you share any speech patterns with racists in makes you a racist.

well, you see, coca cola is neither something that was invented by racists for a racist cause or something that is used near exclusively (read: 99%) of the time by racists. so maybe you should stop making shit comparisons.

Fanta.

[Fascist Russian Empire]

Pardon me then, the man sounds like a fool.

But not all of UKIP is homophobic.

That is like saying a party with several racists in it is 100 percent racist.

Considering the fact that the party itself has an anti-LGBT platform, and throwing in the fact that party representatives like that asshole can make such blatantly homophobic comments, I think it's safe to say that the majority of UKIP supporters are homophobic. Sure, there might be maybe ten, twenty percent that aren't homophobes, but if they support a homophobic party, chances are they're homophobes themselves.

[Alyakia]

well, you see, coca cola is neither something that was invented by racists for a racist cause or something that is used near exclusively (read: 99%) of the time by racists. so maybe you should stop making shit comparisons.

Fanta.

i don't think fanta was invented to be an ayran drink. rather, it was a result of circumstance. nice try though.

maybe the guys shouting ein volk ein reich ein fuher aren't nazis, but merely citizens who feel strongly about german unity?

[Allet Klar Chefs]

Do you know about the speech laws in this country.

Yes, they've made being white, middle class, and male the hardest task of all






"Political correctness is killing free speech" - no. The devaluation of 'free speech' to mean 'just being offensive towards specific groups in society' is killing free speech, if anything even is at all (and I'm not sure it is).

[Ostroeuropa]

Fanta.

i don't think fanta was invented to be an ayran drink. rather, it was a result of circumstance. nice try though.

maybe the guys shouting ein volk ein reich ein fuher aren't nazis, but merely citizens who feel strongly about german unity?

So your position is that if you think section 5 was evil, then you're a racist.
Well, i'm offended by you calling me a racist. I guess i'd better call the police to have you arrested and fined for offending me and violating section 5.
Oh wait.
We repealed it.

Yes. Political correctness was, and is, a direct threat to the future of this country. We need to resist attempts from the butthurt brigade to get another section 5 onto the books.

[Ostroeuropa]

Do you know about the speech laws in this country.

Yes, they've made being white, middle class, and male the hardest task of all




"Political correctness is killing free speech" - no. The devaluation of 'free speech' to mean 'just being offensive towards specific groups in society' is killing free speech, if anything even is at all (and I'm not sure it is).

So you don't actually know about them.

Some instances of the invokation of section 5:

"Scientology is not a religion, it is a dangerous cult." -> arrested
"Little bark." "Woof." -> (Describing a dog) Offensive somehow. "Well, I was offended. therefore-" -> Arrested.
"Your horse is gay." -> Arrested.

http://reformsection5.org.uk/#?sl=3

Again, actually look this shit up if you want to be taken seriously, don't just assume that because white males did it it must be just fine.
(Which is what you are implying here.)

[Fascist Russian Empire]

i don't think fanta was invented to be an ayran drink. rather, it was a result of circumstance. nice try though.

maybe the guys shouting ein volk ein reich ein fuher aren't nazis, but merely citizens who feel strongly about german unity?

There's nothing even remotely Nazi about the phrase "One people, one nation, one leader." Hell, there isn't even anything German about it; anybody of any nation could use it. If somebody said it in English, nobody would recognize it as a German nationalist phrase.

[The German Democratic Reich]

Yes, they've made being white, middle class, and male the hardest task of all




"Political correctness is killing free speech" - no. The devaluation of 'free speech' to mean 'just being offensive towards specific groups in society' is killing free speech, if anything even is at all (and I'm not sure it is).

So you don't actually know about them.

Some instances of the invokation of section 5:

"Scientology is not a religion, it is a dangerous cult." -> arrested
"Little bark." "Woof." -> (Describing a dog) Offensive somehow. "Well, I was offended. therefore-" -> Arrested.
"Your horse is gay." -> Arrested.

http://reformsection5.org.uk/#?sl=3

Again, actually look this shit up if you want to be taken seriously, don't just assume that because white males did it it must be just fine.
(Which is what you are implying here.)

God bless you.

God fucking bless you.

[The Serbian Empire]

So basically a bunch of social justice warriors ruin an event. I'm no fan of UKIP, but the constant braying that they are racist simply doesn't hold water.

Hope one doesn't get a Croydon facelift looking at the social justice warriors.