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UKIP 'Diversity Carnival' Croydon - A total disaster?

Postby Howltaria » Tue May 20, 2014 10:57 am

I just found this rather interesting article on Buzzfeed concerning UKIP's "Diversity Carnival" In Croydon. As a South Londoner myself it was both enlightening and hilarious to see the results of what happened to UKIP in this situation and how the vote may turn out, especially as it is very close to the European Elections on the 22nd of May. Personally, I believe this was an absolute PR disaster for UKIP albeit one that they quite frankly deserved due to the idiocy of their Councillors and potential MP's, especially Winston MacKenzie who is nothing but a bigoted, Christian fundamentalist homophobe. Here's a link tell me what you think and the floor is yours :). http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/i-w ... -total-dis
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Postby Murkwood » Tue May 20, 2014 11:03 am

Buzzfeed? I thought vultures had already ate it's rotting corpse.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue May 20, 2014 11:05 am

So basically a bunch of social justice warriors ruin an event. I'm no fan of UKIP, but the constant braying that they are racist simply doesn't hold water.
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Postby Multifarity » Tue May 20, 2014 11:16 am

UKIP have all the charm, elan and grace of vaginal herpes.
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Postby Murkwood » Tue May 20, 2014 11:16 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:So basically a bunch of social justice warriors ruin an event. I'm no fan of UKIP, but the constant braying that they are racist simply doesn't hold water.

I'm glad SJWs are making a mockery of themselves. Makes my job much easier.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue May 20, 2014 11:18 am

Multifarity wrote:UKIP have all the charm, elan and grace of vaginal herpes.


Nigel is a charming man. Ofcourse he is. It's stupid to deny that. His policies are so fucking crazy that he HAS to be charming, at least charming compared to most politics.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Tue May 20, 2014 11:18 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:So basically a bunch of social justice warriors ruin an event. I'm no fan of UKIP, but the constant braying that they are racist simply doesn't hold water.


Ostroeuropa has a point. There's no point in making an argument your opponent is perfectly prepared to make for you.
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Postby The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Tue May 20, 2014 11:21 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Multifarity wrote:UKIP have all the charm, elan and grace of vaginal herpes.


Nigel is a charming man. Ofcourse he is. It's stupid to deny that. His policies are so fucking crazy that he HAS to be charming, at least charming compared to most politics.


I'm inclined to disagree, I just find him irritating. Just like the rest of his deluded party.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue May 20, 2014 11:21 am

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Ostroeuropa wrote:So basically a bunch of social justice warriors ruin an event. I'm no fan of UKIP, but the constant braying that they are racist simply doesn't hold water.


Ostroeuropa has a point. There's no point in making an argument your opponent is perfectly prepared to make for you.


The issue is that UKIP is an alliance of racists and other political factions.

It isn't a racist party.
It's a party that contains a lot of racists. That is a distinction worth making, since all parties contain some racists.

Constantly calling UKIP a racist party is slandering a lot of it's members.

Saying they are in alliance with political racism is apt.
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Postby Multifarity » Tue May 20, 2014 11:22 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Multifarity wrote:UKIP have all the charm, elan and grace of vaginal herpes.


Nigel is a charming man. Ofcourse he is. It's stupid to deny that. His policies are so fucking crazy that he HAS to be charming, at least charming compared to most politics.
He really isn't. At least not to me, I find him slimy, reptilian, sniveling, chinless and witless.
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Postby The Jasminia Islands » Tue May 20, 2014 11:24 am

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Postby The UK in Exile » Tue May 20, 2014 11:24 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
Ostroeuropa has a point. There's no point in making an argument your opponent is perfectly prepared to make for you.


The issue is that UKIP is an alliance of racists and other political factions.

It isn't a racist party.
It's a party that contains a lot of racists. That is a distinction worth making, since all parties contain some racists.

Constantly calling UKIP a racist party is slandering a lot of it's members.

Saying they are in alliance with political racism is apt.


"I'm not a racist, I'm just perfectly happy to accept and encourage and defend racism if it helps me get what I want." Isn't the best defence that can be put forward against accusations of racism.
"We fought for the public good and would have enfranchised the people and secured the welfare of the whole groaning creation, if the nation had not more delighted in servitude than in freedom"

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Postby European Socialist Republic » Tue May 20, 2014 11:27 am

The Vekta-Helghast Empire wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Nigel is a charming man. Ofcourse he is. It's stupid to deny that. His policies are so fucking crazy that he HAS to be charming, at least charming compared to most politics.


I'm inclined to disagree, I just find him irritating. Just like the rest of his deluded party.

Some people find him charming, for some reason.
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Postby Agritum » Tue May 20, 2014 11:28 am

This looks hilarious and I should totally suggest Nightkill to insert it in Elfen High.

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Postby The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Tue May 20, 2014 11:28 am

European Socialist Republic wrote:
The Vekta-Helghast Empire wrote:
I'm inclined to disagree, I just find him irritating. Just like the rest of his deluded party.

Some people find him charming, for some reason.


I really can't see how, he comes off as up his own arse.

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Postby European Socialist Republic » Tue May 20, 2014 11:30 am

The Vekta-Helghast Empire wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:Some people find him charming, for some reason.


I really can't see how, he comes off as up his own arse.

I don't really understand either.

But, as my teacher Latin used to say: "De gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum."
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue May 20, 2014 11:31 am

The UK in Exile wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
The issue is that UKIP is an alliance of racists and other political factions.

It isn't a racist party.
It's a party that contains a lot of racists. That is a distinction worth making, since all parties contain some racists.

Constantly calling UKIP a racist party is slandering a lot of it's members.

Saying they are in alliance with political racism is apt.


"I'm not a racist, I'm just perfectly happy to accept and encourage and defend racism if it helps me get what I want." Isn't the best defence that can be put forward against accusations of racism.


I'm glad you seem to think that being in political alliance with racists makes one a racist.
Do you accept this is the case for sexism too?
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Tue May 20, 2014 11:35 am

Awesome. The damnable homophobes deserve no less; if the UKIP supporters are going to blame floods on homosexuals, they fucking deserve shit like this. Religious fundamentalists and conservative extremists have bad luck like this for a reason, and that reason is that God doesn't approve of that kind of behavior; that's exactly why the Middle East and Africa are poor as fuck, why extremists are ridiculed in Europe, and why the UKIP has no real support. #FuckTheUKIP

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Postby The UK in Exile » Tue May 20, 2014 11:52 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
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"I'm not a racist, I'm just perfectly happy to accept and encourage and defend racism if it helps me get what I want." Isn't the best defence that can be put forward against accusations of racism.


I'm glad you seem to think that being in political alliance with racists makes one a racist.
Do you accept this is the case for sexism too?


The Major parties don't come out particularly well in that regard standing alone.
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Postby Allet Klar Chefs » Tue May 20, 2014 11:59 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:The issue is that UKIP is an alliance of racists and other political factions.

It isn't a racist party.

I got their manifesto through my letterbox today. On social issues, they wrote, unselfconsciously, I think:

"Political correctness is killing free speech".

Does that sound like Not-Racism to you?

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Postby Alyakia » Tue May 20, 2014 12:03 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:So basically a bunch of social justice warriors ruin an event. I'm no fan of UKIP, but the constant braying that they are racist simply doesn't hold water.


*party leader starts talking about how uncomfortable it would be if romanians moved in next door and how weird all the foreigners speaking foreign on the train are*
*totes not racist*
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Tue May 20, 2014 12:05 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:So basically a bunch of social justice warriors ruin an event. I'm no fan of UKIP, but the constant braying that they are racist simply doesn't hold water.

Maybe they ain't racist, maybe they are, but it doesn't take a genius to know that blaming floods on same-sex marriage is homophobic as fuck. Homophobia is just as serious a crime as racism; frankly, homophobia matters even more than racism, since homophobes actively work to deny people rights, while racists just glare at black people behind their backs.

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Postby Indira » Tue May 20, 2014 12:07 pm

Ostroeuropa wrote:So basically a bunch of social justice warriors ruin an event. I'm no fan of UKIP, but the constant braying that they are racist simply doesn't hold water.


Basically this. Of all the things they could attack UKIP on, they have to go for the one that is least applicable

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Postby The German Democratic Reich » Tue May 20, 2014 12:07 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Awesome. The damnable homophobes deserve no less; if the UKIP supporters are going to blame floods on homosexuals, they fucking deserve shit like this. Religious fundamentalists and conservative extremists have bad luck like this for a reason, and that reason is that God doesn't approve of that kind of behavior; that's exactly why the Middle East and Africa are poor as fuck, why extremists are ridiculed in Europe, and why the UKIP has no real support. #FuckTheUKIP



Oh fucking please.

I would like some sauce on this "UKIP BLAME DEM FLOODS ON teh GHEYS" thing please.


You liberals always shout "accept muh opinions and others" and then bash anyone who isn't left wing.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue May 20, 2014 12:07 pm

Allet Klar Chefs wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:The issue is that UKIP is an alliance of racists and other political factions.

It isn't a racist party.

I got their manifesto through my letterbox today. On social issues, they wrote, unselfconsciously, I think:

"Political correctness is killing free speech".

Does that sound like Not-Racism to you?


It sounds like some people defending racists ability to have the same right as everybody else to express their opinion.
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