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Greatest Chinese Dynasty

Zhou Dynasty
4
3%
Qin Dynasty
9
6%
Han Dynasty
31
22%
Sui Dynasty
1
1%
Tang Dynasty
14
10%
Song Dynasty
12
9%
Yuan Dynasty
5
4%
Ming Dynasty
18
13%
Qing Dynasty
42
30%
Other (Which?)
3
2%
 
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Postby Gigaverse » Mon May 19, 2014 4:25 am

Being someone who live in a country that was directly under Chinese rule for over a thousand year, I'm afraid I don't have a favorite Chinese dynasty in mind. Though, if I must choose, I'd choose the Tang Dynasty - why? It sounded like great enough. If I MUST choose a second best... it's the Song Dynasty. Why? It was the only dynasty that didn't pose any real or significant threat to Dai Viet, in my opinion.
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Postby Quilavaland » Mon May 19, 2014 4:26 am

The Song because of their major scientific and technological advances that still affect the world today. I mean they invented everything from movable type to gunpowder that lasted long beyond their days.
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Postby Duvniask » Mon May 19, 2014 5:16 am

Gigaverse wrote:Being someone who live in a country that was directly under Chinese rule for over a thousand year, I'm afraid I don't have a favorite Chinese dynasty in mind. Though, if I must choose, I'd choose the Tang Dynasty - why? It sounded like great enough. If I MUST choose a second best... it's the Song Dynasty. Why? It was the only dynasty that didn't pose any real or significant threat to Dai Viet, in my opinion.

How can you possibly judge the greatness of dynasties on the basis of that one factor?

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Postby Murkwood » Mon May 19, 2014 5:43 am

Risottia wrote:
Murkwood wrote:It only cost 40,000,000 lives!

While morally disgusting, compare it to the records of famines and massacres in other dynasties, and to the population size of China between 1945 and 2014... the Mao dynasty (officially known as People's Republic of China, but we know the people and the republic are there mostly for show) doesn't come off worse - efficiency-wise - than other dynasties.

That's rather cold blooded.
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Postby MERIZoC » Mon May 19, 2014 5:44 am

Risottia wrote:
Murkwood wrote:It only cost 40,000,000 lives!

While morally disgusting, compare it to the records of famines and massacres in other dynasties, and to the population size of China between 1945 and 2014... the Mao dynasty (officially known as People's Republic of China, but we know the people and the republic are there mostly for show) doesn't come off worse - efficiency-wise - than other dynasties.

But…..it wasn't a dynasty...

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Postby Murkwood » Mon May 19, 2014 5:57 am

For me, I'd say Tang or Han.
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Postby Nesixar » Mon May 19, 2014 6:02 am

Ardoki wrote:Tang for me. China's greatest golden age.

The Yuan and Qing were not Chinese (they were Mongol and Manchu respectively).


They were not Han, but they were Chinese. Not only did they see themselves as Chinese dynasties and adopt Chinese culture and ways of ruling, but Yuan was even acknowledged as having held the Mandate of Heaven by the Ming Emperors. Scholars of the early Republic of China also composed the unfinished and little-known Book of Qing, which in itself is very interesting. Chinese culture is so deep and potent that everyone who conquered any area of China Proper almost as a matter of course adopted it. It represented a very efficient and logical way to rule one's subjects, as well as a way to gain their respect.

Saying that Yuan and Qing weren't Chinese dynasties is like saying the Arsacids weren't a Persian dynasty. Not ethnically, but in every way that mattered they were.
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Postby Duvniask » Mon May 19, 2014 7:00 am

Nesixar wrote:
Ardoki wrote:Tang for me. China's greatest golden age.

The Yuan and Qing were not Chinese (they were Mongol and Manchu respectively).


They were not Han, but they were Chinese. Not only did they see themselves as Chinese dynasties and adopt Chinese culture and ways of ruling, but Yuan was even acknowledged as having held the Mandate of Heaven by the Ming Emperors. Scholars of the early Republic of China also composed the unfinished and little-known Book of Qing, which in itself is very interesting. Chinese culture is so deep and potent that everyone who conquered any area of China Proper almost as a matter of course adopted it. It represented a very efficient and logical way to rule one's subjects, as well as a way to gain their respect.

Saying that Yuan and Qing weren't Chinese dynasties is like saying the Arsacids weren't a Persian dynasty. Not ethnically, but in every way that mattered they were.

Not in every way that mattered, as the Queue Order aptly demonstrated. As a symbol of submission to Qing rule, it was an effective determiner of Han that refused to recognize Manchu domination.
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Postby Gigaverse » Mon May 19, 2014 7:09 am

Duvniask wrote:
Gigaverse wrote:Being someone who live in a country that was directly under Chinese rule for over a thousand year, I'm afraid I don't have a favorite Chinese dynasty in mind. Though, if I must choose, I'd choose the Tang Dynasty - why? It sounded like great enough. If I MUST choose a second best... it's the Song Dynasty. Why? It was the only dynasty that didn't pose any real or significant threat to Dai Viet, in my opinion.

How can you possibly judge the greatness of dynasties on the basis of that one factor?

Simply because I cannot give a better reason from my perspective. :meh:

(The reason why I emphasized "MUST".)
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Postby Liriena » Mon May 19, 2014 8:34 am

Well, I guess I would be cheating but... Wu. Definitely Wu. :P

Seriously, though? Zhou.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Mon May 19, 2014 8:53 am

Qing, because it was the last ;)
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Postby Themiclesia » Mon May 19, 2014 8:55 am

Zhou, without a single doubt. The most admired, venerated, and emulated dynasty of China.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Mon May 19, 2014 11:15 am

Lackadaisical2 wrote:Qing, because it was the last ;)

And their successors were so illustrious. Right?
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