Greatest Chinese Dynasty

[Saruhan]

Qing were pretty good, the only reason they had such a body count is because other dynastic falls didn't have that detailed records. Plus, Manchu is cool as fuck

[Murkwood]

The Mao dynasty. Under Mao and its successors, China went from a mostly agrarian and famished country open for colonisation and invasion by anyone to a world-stage superpower, both economically and militarily. In 70 years.

It only cost 40,000,000 lives!

[United Marxist Nations]

Han and Qin.

[Norstal]

The Mao dynasty. Under Mao and its successors, China went from a mostly agrarian and famished country open for colonisation and invasion by anyone to a world-stage superpower, both economically and militarily. In 70 years.

Well, that's more because of Xiaoping.

[The 93rd Coalition]

Either the QIn, Ming, or Han, though I think the title goes to the Ming. Under their rule, China kind of became the most powerful nation on the Earth for quite a long time, inventing new weapons and navigation techniques and igniting the renaissance we all know and love. They made it the catalyst for the future, which is something to be proud of.

[Geilinor]

The Mao dynasty. Under Mao and its successors, China went from a mostly agrarian and famished country open for colonisation and invasion by anyone to a world-stage superpower, both economically and militarily. In 70 years.

Well, that's more because of Xiaoping.

That makes it even better. Agrarian and famished country to superpower in 40 years.

[Old Tyrannia]

The traditional default answer is the Han, but personally I'd have to say the Ming. China under the Ming dynasty freed itself from Mongol control, expanded to become larger than ever before, experienced a cultural renaissance and produced Zheng He, perhaps China's most famous explorer; not bad for a dynasty founded by a poor peasant from Zhongli. The Ming can also legitimately claim to have had a dignified end; the Chongzhen Emperor made genuine attempts to reverse the dynasty's fortunes and the Empire collapsed in spite of his rule rather than because of it, and he chose to die with honour by his own hand rather than be taken prisoner by the rebels when all was lost.

Honourable mentions should go out to the Tang dynasty. I have a soft spot for the Qing, perhaps because they were the last Chinese dynasty and because the republican traitors so love to disparage them, but the Ming were really responsible for laying thd foundations of China as it exists today. They were the greatest, despite the flaying and the slow slicing.

[Ardoki]

Tang for me. China's greatest golden age.

The Yuan and Qing were not Chinese (they were Mongol and Manchu respectively).

[Zhouran]

Tang for me. China's greatest golden age.

The Yuan and Qing were not Chinese (they were Mongol and Manchu respectively).

Depends on what you mean "Chinese."

China has a large number of ethnic groups.

[Old Tyrannia]

Tang for me. China's greatest golden age.

The Yuan and Qing were not Chinese (they were Mongol and Manchu respectively).

The Communist Party like to claim that the Qing dynasty weren't "truly Chinese." They also like to claim that Manchuria is an integral part of China, thus making Manchus Chinese. I wish they'd make their minds up.

The Tang were awesome, especially Taizong.

[Ardoki]

Tang for me. China's greatest golden age.

The Yuan and Qing were not Chinese (they were Mongol and Manchu respectively).

The Communist Party like to claim that the Qing dynasty weren't "truly Chinese." They also like to claim that Manchuria is an integral part of China, thus making Manchus Chinese. I wish they'd make their minds up.

The Tang were awesome, especially Taizong.

The Han are considered ethnically Chinese, while the Manchu are considered ethnically Manchu. However both are Chinese by nationality.

[Sebtopiaris]

Yuan dynasty stronk!

[Magna Libero]

Personally Ming sounds like a flourishing dynasty. Second best, maybe Tang or Song.

[Great Empire of Gamilus]

The Mao dynasty for its trade and cheap goods...

in all seriousness tho the Han dynasty, seriously paper pretty much is the kicker here.

[Estenia]

Tang Dynasty Stronk.

[Nazis in Space]

The one that braided its hair.

I like braids.

[Old Tyrannia]

The one that braided its hair.

I like braids.

Those sexy Manchus with their sexy queues.

The Communist Party like to claim that the Qing dynasty weren't "truly Chinese." They also like to claim that Manchuria is an integral part of China, thus making Manchus Chinese. I wish they'd make their minds up.

The Tang were awesome, especially Taizong.

The Han are considered ethnically Chinese, while the Manchu are considered ethnically Manchu. However both are Chinese by nationality.

So you admit that the Qing were Chinese, by nationality?

[Republic of Coldwater]

As someone who has studied Asian History, I have to say that the Ming Dynasty was the greatest Dynasty of all. It was a time of scientific, technological and ideological advancement, a time where they can build gargantuan ships better than any other, a time where they could've developed Capitalism, only to be cut short by the Qing Empire.

[Old Tyrannia]

As someone who has studied Asian History, I have to say that the Ming Dynasty was the greatest Dynasty of all. It was a time of scientific, technological and ideological advancement, a time where they can build gargantuan ships better than any other, a time where they could've developed Capitalism, only to be cut short by the Qing short-lived and unsuccessful Shun Empire.

Fixed. You can't blame the Qing for causing the fall of the Ming; they just took advantage of it. Indeed, the Qing Emperors liked to portray themselves as the avengers of the Ming dynasty, although their suppression of the Southern Ming sort of flies in the face of such claims. And the Ming subscribed to the orthodox Confucian view that traders and merchants were parasites and the economy should be predominantly agrarian; hardly champions of proto-capitalism.

[Republic of Coldwater]

As someone who has studied Asian History, I have to say that the Ming Dynasty was the greatest Dynasty of all. It was a time of scientific, technological and ideological advancement, a time where they can build gargantuan ships better than any other, a time where they could've developed Capitalism, only to be cut short by the Qing short-lived and unsuccessful Shun Empire.

Fixed. You can't blame the Qing for causing the fall of the Ming; they just took advantage of it. Indeed, the Qing Emperors liked to portray themselves as the avengers of the Ming dynasty, although their suppression of the Southern Ming sort of flies in the face of such claims. And the Ming subscribed to the orthodox Confucian view that traders and merchants were parasites and the economy should be predominantly agrarian; hardly champions of proto-capitalism.

There were no government monopolies and little regulations in the Ming economy , while the government had a light hand on taxes and privatized many industries

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire#China

[Ardoki]

The one that braided its hair.

I like braids.

Those sexy Manchus with their sexy queues.

The Han are considered ethnically Chinese, while the Manchu are considered ethnically Manchu. However both are Chinese by nationality.

So you admit that the Qing were Chinese, by nationality?

A Manchu can be Swiss by nationality also. Your point?

[Mostrov]

I'd put forward the Tang Dynasty, for their effect beyond the borders of China especially in establishing the pre-eminence of China as the centre of Asia in regards to culture.

Of course I find the Yuan and Sui dynasties interesting, the first if for the sake of the travels of Marco Polo and the exoticness of it all and the latter for its legalism and the effects of its reforms and constructions.

[Greater Somalia]

Coming from a disunited nation...I would vote for the strongman who united China under one rule (Qin).

[Old Tyrannia]

Those sexy Manchus with their sexy queues.

So you admit that the Qing were Chinese, by nationality?

A Manchu can be Swiss by nationality also. Your point?

So the Qing dynasty count as a Chinese dynasty.

[Risottia]

The Mao dynasty. Under Mao and its successors, China went from a mostly agrarian and famished country open for colonisation and invasion by anyone to a world-stage superpower, both economically and militarily. In 70 years.

It only cost 40,000,000 lives!

While morally disgusting, compare it to the records of famines and massacres in other dynasties, and to the population size of China between 1945 and 2014... the Mao dynasty (officially known as People's Republic of China, but we know the people and the republic are there mostly for show) doesn't come off worse - efficiency-wise - than other dynasties.