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Would you date a (post-operation) transgender person?

Yes; I'm straight and I would date a transgender person.
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23%
No; I'm straight and I'd not date a transgender person.
138
42%
Yes; I'm gay and I would date a transgender person.
16
5%
No; I'm gay and I'd not date a transgender person.
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2%
Yes; I'm bisexual and I would date a transgender person.
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20%
No; I'm bisexual and I'd not date a transgender person.
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2%
Other; I'll explain in a reply to the OP.
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Total votes : 327

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Postby Scholmeria » Fri May 16, 2014 1:59 pm

Dyakovo wrote:
Scholmeria wrote:So, people who let say dont want to hang out with people who are stinking are pussies? Insert stinking people with transgender and you have the same effect.

But hey If you love a quasi woman go ahead.

Trans* aren't quasi anything.

Your fantasies are not some objetively.
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Postby Olthar » Fri May 16, 2014 1:59 pm

Trollgaard wrote:Would I date a post op transgender person?

No, I would not. I want to have children someday.

Surrogates, adoption, etc.
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Postby Person012345 » Fri May 16, 2014 1:59 pm

Scholmeria wrote:So, people who let say dont want to hang out with people who are stinking are pussies? Insert stinking people with transgender and you have the same effect.

But hey If you love a quasi woman go ahead.

Stinking people stink. This causes an unpleasant sensation in the nostrils. Transgender people do not emanate transgenderyness.

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Postby Liriena » Fri May 16, 2014 2:00 pm

Aurora Novus wrote:There are only people with personality traits, which can occur in anyone of either sex. Really any sex, as it's arguable that there should be more sexual classifications than the current binary. Or at least a more detailed classification of the "male" and "female" sexes.

Oh, I agree with you there. The conventional Western gender binary is bullshit.
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Postby Anubas » Fri May 16, 2014 2:00 pm

Scholmeria wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Trans* aren't quasi anything.

Your fantasies are not some objetively.

being trans isn't a fantasy, if that's what you're getting at?

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Postby Aurora Novus » Fri May 16, 2014 2:00 pm

Threlizdun wrote:Gender is extremely important to many people and it absolutely does exist. Male and female are genders as well as sexes. Someone who has always belonged to the female gender while belonging to the male sex was always female. You do not address someone by their sexual organs, but their identity.


Gender may be important to people, but so is belief in God. That doesn't make what you hold important real.

No, there are no such things as the male and female genders. I am more than willing to demonstrate for you how nonsensical gender is as a concept. First, how would you define gender? What determines one's gender? Is gender self-defined, as is the position many trans individuals take?
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Postby Trollgaard » Fri May 16, 2014 2:01 pm

Olthar wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:Would I date a post op transgender person?

No, I would not. I want to have children someday.

Surrogates, adoption, etc.


Good options, sure, but I want my own biological children without the hassle and money surrogates cost.

Plus, knowing someone used to be a man would be very odd. Don't think I would go through that.

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Postby The Time Alliance » Fri May 16, 2014 2:01 pm

Olthar wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:Would I date a post op transgender person?

No, I would not. I want to have children someday.

Surrogates, adoption, etc.

Exactly.

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Postby Liriena » Fri May 16, 2014 2:01 pm

Trollgaard wrote:Would I date a post op transgender person?

No, I would not. I want to have children someday.

You do realize there are other ways to have children other than spurting your little Trollgaards into Mrs. Trollgaard's sangréal.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Fri May 16, 2014 2:02 pm

Scholmeria wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Trans* aren't quasi anything.

Your fantasies are not some objetively.


The rantings of a bigotted keyboard warrior are rather less objective.
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Postby The Time Alliance » Fri May 16, 2014 2:02 pm

Liriena wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:Would I date a post op transgender person?

No, I would not. I want to have children someday.

You do realize there are other ways to have children other than spurting your little Trollgaards into Mrs. Trollgaard's sangréal.

Adoption and such.

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Postby Scholmeria » Fri May 16, 2014 2:02 pm

Person012345 wrote:
Scholmeria wrote:So, people who let say dont want to hang out with people who are stinking are pussies? Insert stinking people with transgender and you have the same effect.

But hey If you love a quasi woman go ahead.

Stinking people stink. This causes an unpleasant sensation in the nostrils. Transgender people do not emanate transgenderyness.

Of course they do. Most of them would have male caracteristics even if they start dressing as women. I am ok with that as long as they sont start to force others to adapt to their believes.
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Postby Olthar » Fri May 16, 2014 2:02 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Olthar wrote:Surrogates, adoption, etc.


Good options, sure, but I want my own biological children without the hassle and money surrogates cost.

Plus, knowing someone used to be a man would be very odd. Don't think I would go through that.

That's why you get a friend to be a surrogate. I don't even know if you can buy one. :/
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Postby Person012345 » Fri May 16, 2014 2:03 pm

Scholmeria wrote:Of course they do. Most of them would have male caracteristics even if they start dressing as women. I am ok with that as long as they sont start to force others to adapt to their believes.

And what if they don't have male characteristics?

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Postby Trollgaard » Fri May 16, 2014 2:03 pm

Liriena wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:Would I date a post op transgender person?

No, I would not. I want to have children someday.

You do realize there are other ways to have children other than spurting your little Trollgaards into Mrs. Trollgaard's sangréal.


I don't know what sangreal is, but it reminds my of sangria...

But I do realize that, but I want my own biological children born of my future hypothetical wife.

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Postby Liriena » Fri May 16, 2014 2:04 pm

Aurora Novus wrote:First, how would you define gender?

A sociocultural construct partially inspired in sexual biology that designates certain stereotypical categories for some combinations of physical and psychological traits.
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Postby The Time Alliance » Fri May 16, 2014 2:04 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Liriena wrote:You do realize there are other ways to have children other than spurting your little Trollgaards into Mrs. Trollgaard's sangréal.


I don't know what sangreal is, but it reminds my of sangria...

But I do realize that, but I want my own biological children born of my future hypothetical wife.

I understand where you are coming from.

You're not against TG people. You just want kids via Biological wife.

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Postby Olthar » Fri May 16, 2014 2:04 pm

Trollgaard wrote:
Liriena wrote:You do realize there are other ways to have children other than spurting your little Trollgaards into Mrs. Trollgaard's sangréal.


I don't know what sangreal is, but it reminds my of sangria...

But I do realize that, but I want my own biological children born of my future hypothetical wife.

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Postby Aurora Novus » Fri May 16, 2014 2:05 pm

The Time Alliance wrote:
Liriena wrote:You do realize there are other ways to have children other than spurting your little Trollgaards into Mrs. Trollgaard's sangréal.

Adoption and such.


I honestly don't know why more people don't adopt. I mean, plus, you can skip out on all those baby stages, and jump straight to 5 or 6 year olds! And because you're adopting, you can survey all your options, so you can find a child with a personality and appearance you like.

With all the people the world has on it already, I just don't understand this strong social push to reproduce. There's got to be some biological impulse behind it I guess.

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Postby Liriena » Fri May 16, 2014 2:05 pm

Scholmeria wrote:Of course they do. Most of them would have male caracteristics even if they start dressing as women. I am ok with that as long as they sont start to force others to adapt to their believes.

What the hell is that supposed to mean? That you don't want people to call you out on misgendering transgender people?
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Postby Scholmeria » Fri May 16, 2014 2:05 pm

Person012345 wrote:
Scholmeria wrote:Of course they do. Most of them would have male caracteristics even if they start dressing as women. I am ok with that as long as they sont start to force others to adapt to their believes.

And what if they don't have male characteristics?

That is something that they cannot achieve. You know even if they make some surgery there would still be visible as former man.
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Postby The Time Alliance » Fri May 16, 2014 2:05 pm

Aurora Novus wrote:
The Time Alliance wrote:Adoption and such.


I honestly don't know why more people don't adopt. I mean, plus, you can skip out on all those baby stages, and jump straight to 5 or 6 year olds! And because you're adopting, you can survey all your options, so you can find a child with a personality and appearance you like.

With all the people the world has on it already, I just don't understand this strong social push to reproduce. There's got to be some biological impulse behind it I guess.

You get to have sex......That might be a small factor.

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Postby Shilya » Fri May 16, 2014 2:06 pm

The Time Alliance wrote:
Aurora Novus wrote:
I honestly don't know why more people don't adopt. I mean, plus, you can skip out on all those baby stages, and jump straight to 5 or 6 year olds! And because you're adopting, you can survey all your options, so you can find a child with a personality and appearance you like.

With all the people the world has on it already, I just don't understand this strong social push to reproduce. There's got to be some biological impulse behind it I guess.

You get to have sex......That might be a small factor.

I'm pretty sure that by now we have separated sex and reproduction to a sufficient degree.
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Postby Libertarian California » Fri May 16, 2014 2:07 pm

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Well It depends how long we'd been together for. If for instance I'd seen someone a few times and they then told me I wouldn't think its dishonest. If I had been with someone for a LONG time and I hadn't been told I think I'd probably feel like I had been deceived.

So you make a point of telling your dates what your biological sex is?


If I were to date a transgender, that would be much appreciated.
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Postby Scholmeria » Fri May 16, 2014 2:07 pm

Anubas wrote:
Scholmeria wrote:Your fantasies are not some objetively.

being trans isn't a fantasy, if that's what you're getting at?

I am speaking about people who think they are something else.
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