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Should Sealand be a recognized nation?

Yes, I am all for that!=
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No way man!=
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I do not know=
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Tacos=
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Total votes : 321

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New Laikland
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Postby New Laikland » Wed May 14, 2014 8:54 am

Sealand is one of the 3 world superpoweres, so yes.

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Postby Bundesdeutschland » Wed May 14, 2014 8:55 am

The Grand American Empire wrote:There has been much debate about if Sealand should be a country or not.

For those of you who do not know what Sealand is, The Principality of Sealand is a micronation located in the North Sea. Its mass consists of what was HM Fort Roughs, a former Second World War Maunsell Sea Fort, off the coast of Suffolk, England, United Kingdom.

While it has been described as the world's smallest country, or the world's smallest nation,Sealand is not recognised by any established sovereign state, although Sealand's government claims it has been de facto recognised by the United Kingdom (after an English court ruled it did not have jurisdiction over Sealand as territorial water limitations were defined at the time)and Germany.

Since 1967 the facility has been occupied by family and associates of Paddy Roy Bates, who claim that it is an independent sovereign state.Bates seized it from a group of pirate radio broadcasters in 1967 with the intention of setting up his own station at the site.He attempted to establish Sealand as a nation-state in 1975 with the writing of a national constitution and establishment of other national symbols.Bates moved to mainland Essex when he became elderly, naming his son Michael regent. Bates died in October 2012 at the age of 91.

So...because a rich guy and his family declares a man-made concrete platform in the middle of nowhere to be a nation, it should be a nation? No.
So should Sealand be a nation? you decide
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed May 14, 2014 9:22 am

No. It's a tiny man are structure in the middle of the sea, with only a few permanent residents.
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Postby Stormhound » Wed May 14, 2014 9:26 am

Napkiraly wrote:I personally favour its annexation.


Please, don't encourage them.
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Postby Rio Cana » Wed May 14, 2014 9:29 am

Like I said in another post on this, the UK. should just tear down that eyesore in English Channel.
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Postby Memell » Wed May 14, 2014 9:30 am

Yes, i don't see why it shouldn't be.
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Postby Viritica » Wed May 14, 2014 9:57 am

Sure. Why not?
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Postby Terra Sector Union » Wed May 14, 2014 10:00 am

Imperialist America must invade Sealand and install a dictatorship.
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Postby Senkaku » Wed May 14, 2014 10:00 am

No. It's just a few crackpots who don't want to pay taxes. They're like Britain's Cliven Bundys.
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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Wed May 14, 2014 10:02 am

Yeah, it'll be funny.

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Postby Aravea » Wed May 14, 2014 10:03 am

Yes but only if it is allowed to be the world's sole suprepower.
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Postby Cetacea » Wed May 14, 2014 12:48 pm

So can my boat be declared a sovereign nation too?
Just because they are permanently anchored shouldnt give them special priviledges.

Then of course there are a the Orang Laut sea gypsies who legitamately are a sea bourn nation

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Postby Greater-London » Wed May 14, 2014 12:52 pm

This thread comes up every couple of months. I don't quite get NS's preoccupation with Sealand its just not an important issue.

The answer is of course that It shouldn't become a nation their is 0 point and almost 0 support for it to happen.
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Postby Stormhound » Wed May 14, 2014 1:35 pm

Terra Sector Union wrote:Imperialist America must invade Sealand and install a dictatorship.


They have WMD dammit!
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Wed May 14, 2014 1:50 pm

Totally, I mean, it is the worlds leading economic and military power afterall.
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Postby -The Trade Federation- » Wed May 14, 2014 9:59 pm

What in the world !?

Don't tell me that an old World War II platform wants to be an independant nation !

If micronations are so easy to create, I'll create mine in my room.
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Postby New haven america » Wed May 14, 2014 10:04 pm

Wait, that place is real?

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Postby Neu Preussische Republik » Wed May 14, 2014 10:05 pm

Sealand is of best nationings.
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Postby The Scientific States » Wed May 14, 2014 10:06 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Totally, I mean, it is the worlds leading economic and military power afterall.


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Postby Sturmtiger » Wed May 14, 2014 10:09 pm

Of course not. I don't even know why people take those idiots seriously.

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Postby Blazedtown » Wed May 14, 2014 10:10 pm

No, it would set precedent for letting private property owners declare independence from their countries. And besides isn't it just one crazy old guy that lives out there by himself?
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Postby Blazedtown » Wed May 14, 2014 10:11 pm

Cetacea wrote:So can my boat be declared a sovereign nation too?
Just because they are permanently anchored shouldnt give them special priviledges.

Then of course there are a the Orang Laut sea gypsies who legitamately are a sea bourn nation


Pirate nation?
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Postby -The Trade Federation- » Wed May 14, 2014 10:12 pm

Blazedtown wrote:No, it would set precedent for letting private property owners declare independence from their countries. And besides isn't it just one crazy old guy that lives out there by himself?


To be exact...

His family lives with him on a rusty, sh*tty platform from the 40s.
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Since I seem to get a lot of random telegrams, telegram me, I love telegrams and I'm single, so why the hell not ?

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Postby Blazedtown » Wed May 14, 2014 10:15 pm

-The Trade Federation- wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:No, it would set precedent for letting private property owners declare independence from their countries. And besides isn't it just one crazy old guy that lives out there by himself?


To be exact...

His family lives with him on a rusty, shitty platform from the 40s.


Fixed that. You don't have censor yourself here. Why on Earth would they go with him. "hey honey let's pack up the kids and go live in total isolation out in the ocean, doesn't that sound like fun?" I'm sure that went over well.
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Postby -The Trade Federation- » Wed May 14, 2014 10:17 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
-The Trade Federation- wrote:
To be exact...

His family lives with him on a rusty, shitty platform from the 40s.


Fixed that. You don't have censor yourself here. Why on Earth would they go with him. "hey honey let's pack up the kids and go live in total isolation out in the ocean, doesn't that sound like fun?" I'm sure that went over well.


Honestly...

I would live out there.

It's just very inconvenient when you have to go buy a liter of milk to make your morning hot chocolate or buy these missing hot dog buns.
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Since I seem to get a lot of random telegrams, telegram me, I love telegrams and I'm single, so why the hell not ?

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