Anti-Semitism: What to do?

[Napkiraly]

This thread makes me shake my head in shame. People from Stormfront must be here, perhaps they should scurry back over to their southern, white lunatic david-duke loving website.

You know, I hate to break this to you but not everyone from the South/loves the South is a bigot nor is every bigot from the South nor is everyone on Stormfront from the South (trust me, I spent a good share of my time trolling that site at one point).


Anyway, I'm rather shocked that Canada did so poorly, and also rather shocked that in the UK atheists seem to be more prejudiced than Christians.

[Fascist Russian Empire]

The [Six Day War] began on June 5 with Israel launching surprise strikes against Egyptian air-fields in response to the mobilisation of Egyptian forces on the Israeli border.

Egypt was going to invade anyway. Why not beat them to the punch?

No they weren't. Egypt knew that Israel couldn't be trusted (you know, with the Suez Crisis, where Israel invaded Egypt to steal control of the Suez Canal and put a puppet regime in Egypt), and they were rightfully putting troops to defend the border. The Israelis were the ones who fired the first shots, and they were the ones unlawfully stealing land from Egypt.

[Viritica]

Is there death penalty for Jews in like 6 countries, 2 halves of other ones, and criminal prosecution for being a Jew in 7 tens of others? Negative attitudes to homosexuality are 98% in Mali, this study didn't find such negative attitudes to Jews even in countries directly engaged in historical conflicts with Israel.

I thought we were talking about America here?

[Tierra Prime]

It's a lot higher in Asia and Europe than I thought it would be. It's strange considering Jews seem to mostly keep to themselves.

[Murkwood]

This thread makes me shake my head in shame. People from Stormfront must be here, perhaps they should scurry back over to their southern, white lunatic david-duke loving website.

You know, I hate to break this to you but not everyone from the South/loves the South is a bigot nor is every bigot from the South nor is everyone on Stormfront from the South (trust me, I spent a good share of my time trolling that site at one point).


Anyway, I'm rather shocked that Canada did so poorly, and also rather shocked that in the UK atheists seem to be more prejudiced than Christians.

People on this site seem to think Southern/Republican = Racist Homophobes.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Is there death penalty for Jews in like 6 countries, 2 halves of other ones, and criminal prosecution for being a Jew in 7 tens of others? Negative attitudes to homosexuality are 98% in Mali, this study didn't find such negative attitudes to Jews even in countries directly engaged in historical conflicts with Israel.

I thought we were talking about America here?

The research was about anti-Semitism across the world.

USA's anti-Semites are reportedly 9% of the population, this is very low.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I thought we were talking about America here?

The research was about anti-Semitism across the world.

USA's anti-Semites are reportedly 9% of the population, this is very low.

Sad to admit it but antisemitism is still higher in Europe than it is in the US.

[Geilinor]

The research was about anti-Semitism across the world.

USA's anti-Semites are reportedly 9% of the population, this is very low.

Sad to admit it but antisemitism is still higher in Europe than it is in the US.

The study found that places with larger Jewish populations tend to be less anti-Semitic, so it makes sense.

[Nazi Flower Power]

The Anti-Defamation League recently released this survey of global attitudes towards Jews. It is the largest of its kind, and the results are not pretty. Most major western countries have about a 1/6 of the population that is anti-Semitic. That's a lot of people. It's even worse in Africa and the Middle East. The results of the survey are shocking.

I wouldn't take ADL's word for that. They sometimes interpret anti-Israel attitudes as antisemitism, even when the person's problem with Israel is entirely political (not racial or religious) and the person has no ill will toward the general Jewish population.

Antisemitism is a real problem. I just don't trust ADL's numbers when it comes to measuring the extent of the problem because I have gotten mailings from ADL in the past and they have their own biases.

What do you think about Anti-Semitism? And what can be done about it? I believe we, as a society, need to confront Anti-Semitism like we confront racists.

Antisemites ARE racists.

Our collages colleges shouldn't invite anti-semeitics anti-semites to speak, and people should protest where they do. Anti-Semitism is as bad as other strains of hate, but for some reason, it's more ingrained in our culture.

OK. I don't think we need antisemitic lecturers in colleges. I also don't think it's a very common problem. Where I've run into antisemitism is more on the internet or talking to people on the street, not so much lecturers in colleges.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Sad to admit it but antisemitism is still higher in Europe than it is in the US.

The study found that places with larger Jewish populations tend to be less anti-Semitic, so it makes sense.

Although it is interesting to note that French Muslims have the most positive of opinions of Jews in all of Europe.

[Kanadrin]

Let people have their opinions, but it is to be discouraged and overall despised, like how racist and sexist remarks are dealt with. They have the right to free speech, but we also have the right to call them out for their beliefs if they do intend to run for a position of power.

In other words, the general public wouldn't allow a radical bigot into power 'that easily'. It's like the United States electing a socialist... oh wait.

[Benuty]

The study found that places with larger Jewish populations tend to be less anti-Semitic, so it makes sense.

Although it is interesting to note that French Muslims have the most positive of opinions of Jews in all of Europe.

Our rampant secularism is starting to beat them down unfortunately same cannot be said of the UK's population.

[Tuthina]

It's a lot higher in Asia and Europe than I thought it would be. It's strange considering Jews seem to mostly keep to themselves.

I have been suspecting that it is mostly because of the tendency of Israel equating itself with the Jewish ethno-religious group, and thus the idea that Jews are more likely to be loyal to Israel than the own country (namely the first question in the survey). This would not react well given the tendency of east Asian cultures giving a lot more focus on the state than individuals. A brief glimpse on the breakdown on the scores seem to support this, but I am not sure if it is significant enough. Personally I have heard of a few incidents where the local Israel/Jewish groups being a bit too overreacting on supposedly neonazi activities, so that might reflect on the score if they are more well-known than I thought as well.

In other words, the general public wouldn't allow a radical bigot into power 'that easily'. It's like the United States electing a socialist... oh wait.

It depends on places though. If those places are as anti-semite as suggested, then chances are an anti-semite demagogue will be easily elected into a position of power. Given how Israel's tendency to react... harshly on things like that, it could cause a cycle of antisemitism as people who are originally fine with Jews gets pissed by foreigners meddling with their internal policies.

[Murkwood]

The research was about anti-Semitism across the world.

USA's anti-Semites are reportedly 9% of the population, this is very low.

Sad to admit it but antisemitism is still higher in Europe than it is in the US.

Europe, as a whole, tends to be more xenophobic than the US.

[Noders]

fuck all really, to be simple about it haters are going to hate no matter what it's called life.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Sad to admit it but antisemitism is still higher in Europe than it is in the US.

Europe, as a whole, tends to be more xenophobic than the US.

Which is unfortunate because we know what xenophobia and antisemitism can do to a country. Or an entire continent. We lived through WWII. Didn't we learn a thing?

[Murkwood]

Europe, as a whole, tends to be more xenophobic than the US.

Which is unfortunate because we know what xenophobia and antisemitism can do to a country. Or an entire continent. We lived through WWII. Didn't we learn a thing?

Genocide = Bad.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Which is unfortunate because we know what xenophobia and antisemitism can do to a country. Or an entire continent. We lived through WWII. Didn't we learn a thing?

Genocide = Bad.

And yet, antisemitism still lives. *sigh*

[Mormak]

Opinions are opinions, until it results in programs designed at extermination it should be tolerated just like other unpopular and minority supported views.

Ideas by themselves are nothing of consequence, when they result in action however it becomes something worth talking about. Given migration of ways of thinking, belief and what have you is never without bias i'd argue that as xenophobic as the belief being purported here, it still doesn't exist in a vacuum. Merits of belief though and their value are as subject and personal as they intrinsic to the individual.

[Murkwood]

Genocide = Bad.

And yet, antisemitism still lives. *sigh*

That's because in Europe there is an apathy towards confronting it.

[Tuthina]

Genocide = Bad.

And yet, antisemitism still lives. *sigh*

I think there are several more steps between antisemitism and gassing the Jews.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

And yet, antisemitism still lives. *sigh*

I think there are several more steps between antisemitism and gassing the Jews.

Sure, however, what did it lead to back in the 1930s and 40s? The hate still lives, even if Jews aren't being sent to concentration camps or gassed.

[Tuthina]

I think there are several more steps between antisemitism and gassing the Jews.

Sure, however, what did it lead to back in the 1930s and 40s? The hate still lives, even if Jews aren't being sent to concentration camps or gassed.

I think the lesson learnt is that just because you hate a group of people does not mean killing them all is a good idea. Given the questions proposed by the survey, I think most are less about hating Jews and more about not liking their strong international presense lingering from the whole holocaust thing. To be fair, if I am to take the same survey, chances are I would be on the list of antisemites despite not holding hatred towards the entire ethnicity.

[Mormak]

Sure, however, what did it lead to back in the 1930s and 40s? The hate still lives, even if Jews aren't being sent to concentration camps or gassed.

I think the lesson learnt is that just because you hate a group of people does not mean killing them all is a good idea. Given the questions proposed by the survey, I think most are less about hating Jews and more about not liking their strong international presense lingering from the whole holocaust thing. To be fair, if I am to take the same survey, chances are I would be on the list of antisemites despite not holding hatred towards the entire ethnicity.

It could merely be about the grossly disproportionate amount of wealth and influence their people command, nothing to do with their beliefs, skin color anything intrinsically linked to "racism".

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Sure, however, what did it lead to back in the 1930s and 40s? The hate still lives, even if Jews aren't being sent to concentration camps or gassed.

I think the lesson learnt is that just because you hate a group of people does not mean killing them all is a good idea. Given the questions proposed by the survey, I think most are less about hating Jews and more about not liking their strong international presense lingering from the whole holocaust thing. To be fair, if I am to take the same survey, chances are I would be on the list of antisemites despite not holding hatred towards the entire ethnicity.

I don't know. The dislike, the hate, is still there. Fan the fires enough and we get another debacle. Of course, I do hope we learned the lesson, like you said.