The Official 2014 FIFA World Cup Thread

[The Blaatschapen]

Netherlands are the "oranges" I understand.

But as a multilingual person, perhaps you can explain this to me: Italy are the "Gli Azzurri" and France are the "Les Bleus". Aren't those both the same colour?

Correct, we call our team 'oranges' mostly.

Now lets hope that we can play Argentina off the field.

Pretty sure we call our team not "oranges". We call it "Oranje", which can be only be translated as "Orange" (referring to the colour). "oranges" are a fruit.

[AiliailiA]

Correct, we call our team 'oranges' mostly.

Now lets hope that we can play Argentina off the field.

Pretty sure we call our team not "oranges". We call it "Oranje", which can be only be translated as "Orange" (referring to the colour). "oranges" are a fruit.

Meanwhile, Argentina will take the silver medal and Netherlands will get juiced by the Brazil Nuts.

[Forsher]

Some of the Cricket World Cup matches. However, more relevant to this thread the U20 FIFA World Cup.

Hey yeah. That solves the "soccer" versus "football" naming dispute. Let's just call it paedoball.

I would assume 100% of matches will be exclusive to Sky (for Kiwis) but one never knows. It really depends on how much money Sky thinks advertising having exclusive coverage will make.

7-1 against the hosts is more or less a scoreline likely to be associated with the latter (ignoring the obvious issues with scoring differences). Australia's team won't be anywhere near as good as some of the ones it has fielded in the past (like Brazil) but it will still be actually world class (unlike Brazil). The Black Caps have fallen a long way down the ODI table since the Fleming days but we save our dramatic collapses for test matches (I believe we have all three of the lowest three test innings totals ever). That said, in 2007 NZ did beat Australia by ten wickets which is about as emphatic as this destruction of Brazil by Germany (for the team bowling first).

Note: Wiki has these as the only two events hosted by NZ in 2015; they're not just the ones that I a) care about (the cricket one) and b) have been bombarded with advertising for.

And that's interesting too. Just give the players bats and put a wicket somewhere on the football pitch, and the Euro/South American stranglehold on the World Cup would be a thing of the past.

But that's not cricket is it? Not football either. A foul hybrid which England still can't win.

It's more rugby and cricket that tend to get played on the same grounds (well, in Auckland at least) with the soccer and league at Mt Smart and cricket and rugby Mt Eden (the main stadium, not the prison*). Having looked at the U20 WC link none of those are played at Mt Smart which suggests that my view of that as a soccer location is mostly influenced by a recent match their that really clogged up the trains (not to cause problems but it's funny watching normally pretty empty Onehunga services filled to the brim).

That said, this hypothetical sport sounds a bit like hockey so Netherlands/Germany final is still going to happen. Actually, Argentina don't seem too shabby either at hockey.

*Funnily enough, the prison backs onto one of the most desirable schools and, therefore, does not have any impact on house prices in the area.

[Wolfenium]

Pretty sure we call our team not "oranges". We call it "Oranje", which can be only be translated as "Orange" (referring to the colour). "oranges" are a fruit.

Meanwhile, Argentina will take the silver medal and Netherlands will get juiced by the Brazil Nuts.

After that soul-crushing performance, Brazil is probably going to need a lot more to get their motivation and confidence back, and I doubt many will be eager to see them in Brasilia.

[AiliailiA]

Netherlands are the "oranges" I understand.

But as a multilingual person, perhaps you can explain this to me: Italy are the "Gli Azzurri" and France are the "Les Bleus". Aren't those both the same colour?

Nope.

Les Bleus wear blue - from the Pantone Reflex Blue of their flag, while gli Azzurri wear the Savoy azure.

Like this:

[Agritum]

Hey yeah. That solves the "soccer" versus "football" naming dispute. Let's just call it paedoball.



And that's interesting too. Just give the players bats and put a wicket somewhere on the football pitch, and the Euro/South American stranglehold on the World Cup would be a thing of the past.

But that's not cricket is it? Not football either. A foul hybrid which England still can't win.

It's more rugby and cricket that tend to get played on the same grounds (well, in Auckland at least) with the soccer and league at Mt Smart and cricket and rugby Mt Eden (the main stadium, not the prison*). Having looked at the U20 WC link none of those are played at Mt Smart which suggests that my view of that as a soccer location is mostly influenced by a recent match their that really clogged up the trains (not to cause problems but it's funny watching normally pretty empty Onehunga services filled to the brim).

That said, this hypothetical sport sounds a bit like hockey so Netherlands/Germany final is still going to happen. Actually, Argentina don't seem too shabby either at hockey.

*Funnily enough, the prison backs onto one of the most desirable schools and, therefore, does not have any impact on house prices in the area.

Excuse me for this little threadjack, but...

Review: Staff a little on the officious side, rooms very cramped - although all came with ensuite - quite regimented with limited freedom - you get what you pay for I guess

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

Pretty sure we call our team not "oranges". We call it "Oranje", which can be only be translated as "Orange" (referring to the colour). "oranges" are a fruit.

Meanwhile, Argentina will take the silver medal and Netherlands will get juiced by the Brazil Nuts.

Indeed. FIFA needs to make sure a South American team gets in the final, after all.

[Baltenstein]

Now, if I were Brazilian, I would support Germany in a Germany/Argentina final.

Would you really want Argentina to be the ones who defeated the team that defeated you?

[AiliailiA]

Meanwhile, Argentina will take the silver medal and Netherlands will get juiced by the Brazil Nuts.

After that soul-crushing performance, Brazil is probably going to need a lot more to get their motivation and confidence back, and I doubt many will be eager to see them in Brasilia.

And yet I hear, the Brazil domestic season starts just four days after the Cup. Might be a slow start to the season ...

[Baltenstein]

On a less funny note, there were indeed public riots in several Brazilian cities after yesterday's game. Apparently no deaths though.

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

On a less funny note, there were indeed public riots in several Brazilian cities after yesterday's game. Apparently no deaths though.

There was shooting and burning, though.

[Estado Paulista]

Now, if I were Brazilian, I would support Germany in a Germany/Argentina final.

Would you really want Argentina to be the ones who defeated the team that defeated you?

I am Brazilian, and I will be supporting the Netherlands in a Netherlands/Germany final. In a Germany/Argentina final, I'd just turn off my TV and pretend this Cup never happened.

[Djadjoekstan]

Netherlands are the "oranges" I understand.

But as a multilingual person, perhaps you can explain this to me: Italy are the "Gli Azzurri" and France are the "Les Bleus". Aren't those both the same colour?

Correct, we call our team 'oranges' mostly.

Now lets hope that we can play Argentina off the field.

More like orange.

Otherwise it'd be de Sinaasappels or de Oranjes. Both are very different things.

[Mefpan]

On a less funny note, there were indeed public riots in several Brazilian cities after yesterday's game. Apparently no deaths though.

Wikipedia says at least one person has died, but it's Wikipedia, people are trolling all over the place thanks to this ridiculous result and I'm too lazy to do my own research. Here's hoping Wikipedia is wrong - this is a game, for fuck's sake.

[The Archregimancy]

Why does this suddenly remind me of David Luiz?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbd4t-ua-WQ

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Now, if I were Brazilian, I would support Germany in a Germany/Argentina final.

Would you really want Argentina to be the ones who defeated the team that defeated you?

Brazilians who hate Argentina are absolute sillies and I want to hear the noise from their crumbling.

[Nazis in Space]

Commentators are saying Brazil suffered more from the lack of da Silva than Neymar.

I think they're probably right. Once the German attack discovered it could pass the ball freely right in front of the Brazil goal, those four goals in about six minutes happened. And after that (Germany from 1-0 to 5-0) Brazil's fate was sealed.[...]

Well, that's a part of it - but there's another aspect, which brings us back to Germany's set piece strength - would you risk an endless amount of small, not yellow-worthy, tactical fouls in your own half against an opponent who specialises in set pieces?

Of course not.

Now, how did Brazil's defence control its opponent's attacking attempts in the previous five games? An endless amount of small, not yellow-worthy, tactical fouls in their own half? Sauce (Okay, 'Not yellow-worthy' is clearly debatable...).

Whoops.

For that reason, I'm unconvinced that Thiago Silva would've made all that much of a difference - Brazil's basic defensive approach was unsustainable against Germany, with or without him. I'm certain that they were told not to foul as much as usual, lest it costs them the game - but there was no Plan B, no alternative to the fouls. The consequence? A defence in shambles.

[Aestate]

Now, if I were Brazilian, I would support Germany in a Germany/Argentina final.

Would you really want Argentina to be the ones who defeated the team that defeated you?

Brazil lost with 7-1 in a World Cup, in a semifinal, on at home. Were humiliated with a huge global audience. Lost a record number of final, lost record goalscorer, are in tears. Worse than it is?

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Brazil lost with 7-1 in a World Cup, in a semifinal, on at home. Were humiliated with a huge global audience. Lost a record number of final, lost record goalscorer, are in tears. Worse than it is?

If that happened in a final against Argentina.

*imagines the delicious doom*

[Aestate]

Brazil lost with 7-1 in a World Cup, in a semifinal, on at home. Were humiliated with a huge global audience. Lost a record number of final, lost record goalscorer, are in tears. Worse than it is?

If that happened in a final against Argentina.

*imagines the delicious doom*

Many Brazilians on the internet are preferring to have lost a final for Argentina, with a minor difference. Just hold out the neighbors, not the whole world.

[Nazis in Space]

Some of the Cricket World Cup matches. However, more relevant to this thread the U20 FIFA World Cup.

Hey yeah. That solves the "soccer" versus "football" naming dispute. Let's just call it paedoball.[...]

That was terrible.

Hilarious, but terrible.

Though I never saw the point of these youth tournaments. Hardly anyone who plays in them actually comes out big - best case scenario, they don't matter. Worst case scenario, they actually burn talented players out before their time.

Now, if I were Brazilian, I would support Germany in a Germany/Argentina final.

Would you really want Argentina to be the ones who defeated the team that defeated you?

Depends on the circles you're conversing in, really.

In some of them, there's a hell of a lot of Confederation-Rivalry - you know, the sort of thing that makes Germans and Dutchmen support each other against CONMEBOL sides. And the same applies vice versa.

Now, that's not the case everywhere. The old rivalries still persist. But Confed-Rivalries do exist, and can override the national ones. /sp/ is a particularly glaring example, but it can also be found - to a lesser extend, of course - in at least one football forum I frequent, as well as the odd commentary @ the Guardian & co.

[Estado Paulista]

Well, shit. It's been a good run. We could have been better, obviously. I don't even think we did our best, but well. Hopefully, we'll win the 2015 Copa América.

Now, let's go Holland!

[Baltenstein]

Why does this suddenly remind me of David Luiz?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbd4t-ua-WQ

The game also reminded me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09n0qd_n4c0

Note the fitting background music and Scolari's expression at 1:29.

[Agritum]

Hey yeah. That solves the "soccer" versus "football" naming dispute. Let's just call it paedoball.[...]

That was terrible.

Hilarious, but terrible.

Though I never saw the point of these youth tournaments. Hardly anyone who plays in them actually comes out big - best case scenario, they don't matter. Worst case scenario, they actually burn talented players out before their time.

Now, if I were Brazilian, I would support Germany in a Germany/Argentina final.

Would you really want Argentina to be the ones who defeated the team that defeated you?

Depends on the circles you're conversing in, really.

In some of them, there's a hell of a lot of Confederation-Rivalry - you know, the sort of thing that makes Germans and Dutchmen support each other against COMNEBOL sides. And the same applies vice versa.

Now, that's not the case everywhere. The old rivalries still persist. But Confed-Rivalries do exist, and can override the national ones. /sp/ is a particularly glaring example, but it can also be found - to a lesser extend, of course - in at least one football forum I frequent, as well as the odd commentary @ the Guardian & co.

It'd be lovely if UEFA finally managed to get a WC win on CONMEBOL soil, I have to say.

[Nazis in Space]

This better be a 'shop.