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Postby Shie » Mon May 12, 2014 4:41 am

SaintB wrote:It boils down to "Buttsex is gross and scary." and "They are different." and in both cases ends in "So I don't want to let people do it."
No, it boils down to the fact that homosexuals aren't capable of producing children. Don't put me into a little right-wing extremist box.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon May 12, 2014 4:43 am

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SaintB wrote:It boils down to "Buttsex is gross and scary." and "They are different." and in both cases ends in "So I don't want to let people do it."
No, it boils down to the fact that homosexuals aren't capable of producing children. Don't put me into a little right-wing extremist box.


Most homosexuals are not sterile. More then that many homosexual couples want to adopt.
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Postby The Rhomaion » Mon May 12, 2014 4:43 am

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SaintB wrote:It boils down to "Buttsex is gross and scary." and "They are different." and in both cases ends in "So I don't want to let people do it."
No, it boils down to the fact that homosexuals aren't capable of producing children.


It's pretty easy for gay people to produce children; it's been pointed out in other threads that methods exist, particularly (I think it was Liri who mentioned it) for trans people.

Besides which it's perfectly possible for gay people to produce children with other people (through egg or sperm donations, surrogacy, etc.). Oh, and there's also adoption.

Your argument makes no sense and is not linked to reality.
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SaintB wrote:It boils down to "Buttsex is gross and scary." and "They are different." and in both cases ends in "So I don't want to let people do it."
No, it boils down to the fact that homosexuals aren't capable of producing children. Don't put me into a little right-wing extremist box.

Reproduction doesn't mean shit in this situation, marriage is just a title they give you.

Regardless not letting homosexuals marry is just stupid beyond reason, either let them or drop marriage all together.
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Postby Neutraligon » Mon May 12, 2014 4:44 am

-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:
Shie wrote:No, it boils down to the fact that homosexuals aren't capable of producing children. Don't put me into a little right-wing extremist box.

Reproduction doesn't mean shit in this situation, marriage is just a title they give you.

Regardless not letting homosexuals marry is just stupid beyond reason, either let them or drop marriage all together.


Shie is of the opinion that the sole purpose of marriage is and should be reproduction.
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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Mon May 12, 2014 4:51 am

Neutraligon wrote:
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:Reproduction doesn't mean shit in this situation, marriage is just a title they give you.

Regardless not letting homosexuals marry is just stupid beyond reason, either let them or drop marriage all together.


Shie is of the opinion that the sole purpose of marriage is and should be reproduction.

Then Shie doesn't understand what marriage is, especially since we are not a purely monogamous species.

So having sexual partners (A lot) is ironically what we are built for, so marriage is just making that a bitch unless its polygamy but even then we tend to take one at a time...

As well we fucking outnumber Gorillas, Chimps, etc....

We outnumber all the other Great Apes, and I'm willing to bet we also dropped their populations.

Really....I don't give a damn if we stop reproducing (Accept for one breeding pop)

Because we don't really need more Humans....we are good, cut us in half in population and we are still perfectly cheeky...
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Postby Shie » Mon May 12, 2014 4:52 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Shie wrote:No, it boils down to the fact that homosexuals aren't capable of producing children. Don't put me into a little right-wing extremist box.


Most homosexuals are not sterile. More then that many homosexual couples want to adopt.
Adoption is a situation where I am conflicted. I've known people raised by foster parents, good people. The problem is that good just isn't enough for the world to work in sync. I suggest that the kids in such programs be raised with more care by the state. They should be given a reason to aid in its protection.

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Postby Shie » Mon May 12, 2014 4:58 am

-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Shie is of the opinion that the sole purpose of marriage is and should be reproduction.

Then Shie doesn't understand what marriage is, especially since we are not a purely monogamous species.

So having sexual partners (A lot) is ironically what we are built for, so marriage is just making that a bitch unless its polygamy but even then we tend to take one at a time...

As well we fucking outnumber Gorillas, Chimps, etc....

We outnumber all the other Great Apes, and I'm willing to bet we also dropped their populations.

Really....I don't give a damn if we stop reproducing (Accept for one breeding pop)

Because we don't really need more Humans....we are good, cut us in half in population and we are still perfectly cheeky...

That would give us under 200 years, given that we stop breeding.

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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Mon May 12, 2014 5:02 am

Shie wrote:
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:Then Shie doesn't understand what marriage is, especially since we are not a purely monogamous species.

So having sexual partners (A lot) is ironically what we are built for, so marriage is just making that a bitch unless its polygamy but even then we tend to take one at a time...

As well we fucking outnumber Gorillas, Chimps, etc....

We outnumber all the other Great Apes, and I'm willing to bet we also dropped their populations.

Really....I don't give a damn if we stop reproducing (Accept for one breeding pop)

Because we don't really need more Humans....we are good, cut us in half in population and we are still perfectly cheeky...

That would give us under 200 years, given that we stop breeding.

Cool...you can do math...thanks for sharing that.
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The Most Important Issue Result - "Robosexual marriages are increasingly common."

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Postby The Grand American Empire » Mon May 12, 2014 5:04 am

Merizoc wrote:Gay marriage isn't a problem, other than the fact that we have people who think it is. And there are no logical or valid arguments against it.



Yes there f**king is!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

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Postby -The Unified Earth Governments- » Mon May 12, 2014 5:06 am

The Grand American Empire wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Gay marriage isn't a problem, other than the fact that we have people who think it is. And there are no logical or valid arguments against it.



Yes there f**king is!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


Okay....tell us then....

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Oh Jesus Christ, are you going to tell us or not?
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon May 12, 2014 5:12 am

Shie wrote:
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What is this "gay propaganda" you speak of?

The Hollywood movies with all of the liberal undertones and blatant disregard for the ideal male role in an organized society.


Ah, the well-documented 'liberal-bias' of reality.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon May 12, 2014 5:13 am

Shie wrote:No, it boils down to the fact that homosexuals aren't capable of producing children.


Producing children isn't required for marriage.
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Postby Grave_n_idle » Mon May 12, 2014 5:14 am

Neutraligon wrote:
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:Reproduction doesn't mean shit in this situation, marriage is just a title they give you.

Regardless not letting homosexuals marry is just stupid beyond reason, either let them or drop marriage all together.


Shie is of the opinion that the sole purpose of marriage is and should be reproduction.


Shie can be of whatever opinion Shie prefers. However, in this particular case, Shie is objectively wrong.
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Postby Viritica » Mon May 12, 2014 5:50 am

The Grand American Empire wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Gay marriage isn't a problem, other than the fact that we have people who think it is. And there are no logical or valid arguments against it.



Yes there f**king is!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Uh-huh... do tell...
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Postby Viritica » Mon May 12, 2014 5:55 am

Shie wrote:
SaintB wrote:It boils down to "Buttsex is gross and scary." and "They are different." and in both cases ends in "So I don't want to let people do it."
No, it boils down to the fact that homosexuals aren't capable of producing children. Don't put me into a little right-wing extremist box.

Producing children isn't required for marriage.
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Postby Shie » Mon May 12, 2014 6:32 am

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Shie wrote:No, it boils down to the fact that homosexuals aren't capable of producing children.


Producing children isn't required for marriage.
It should be, look at the statistics.

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Postby Nervium » Mon May 12, 2014 6:35 am

Misanthropy, although that's highly egocentric.
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Postby Genivaria » Mon May 12, 2014 6:37 am

There really isn't one.

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Postby Genivaria » Mon May 12, 2014 6:38 am

Shie wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Producing children isn't required for marriage.
It should be, look at the statistics.

No it shouldn't be, and what statistics?

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Postby Genivaria » Mon May 12, 2014 6:39 am

The Grand American Empire wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Gay marriage isn't a problem, other than the fact that we have people who think it is. And there are no logical or valid arguments against it.



Yes there f**king is!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

I'm sure you can present one then.

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Postby Starvation Is Fun » Mon May 12, 2014 6:43 am

Shie wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Producing children isn't required for marriage.
It should be, look at the statistics.

Marriage in this sense is important because of the legal status &c surrounding it. If you want to say same-sex couples can't "marry" because they can't reproduce, do you at least agree they should be able to get the legal benefits of marriage?
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Postby Mavorpen » Mon May 12, 2014 6:45 am

Nervium wrote:Misanthropy, although that's highly egocentric.

I'm a misanthrope and - wait, hold on... nah, still support gay marriage. :p
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Postby Nervium » Mon May 12, 2014 6:47 am

Mavorpen wrote:
Nervium wrote:Misanthropy, although that's highly egocentric.

I'm a misanthrope and - wait, hold on... nah, still support gay marriage. :p


Well, I'm saying that it could be an argument, but it's a shitty argument because it's centered around ego.

So, no, still no real argument.
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