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by Gates of evil » Thu May 08, 2014 1:52 pm

by Soldati Senza Confini » Thu May 08, 2014 1:52 pm
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

by Korouse » Thu May 08, 2014 1:52 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Korouse wrote:Again, what about 8 year olds, how about we kill them because they can't reproduce? How about we kill those who can't feel pain because of a disease? How about we kill the braindead people on life support? What about people in a coma?
You are just moving the goalposts because you have been proven wrong more than once.
The point is that the fetus, before it even has a heartbeat, developed organs, or developed brain function are not human. They are just cells.
After they have reached that level of maturity they are recognized for all intent and purposes as human biologically. Your argument about 8 year olds, people on a coma, and brain dead people along with the people who cannot feel pain are sincerely pointless.

by Helvagon » Thu May 08, 2014 1:52 pm
Soldati senza confini wrote:Korouse wrote:Again, what about 8 year olds, how about we kill them because they can't reproduce? How about we kill those who can't feel pain because of a disease? How about we kill the braindead people on life support? What about people in a coma?
You are just moving the goalposts because you have been proven wrong more than once.
The point is that the fetus, before it even has a heartbeat, developed organs, or developed brain function are not human. They are just cells.
After they have reached that level of maturity they are recognized for all intent and purposes as human biologically. Your argument about 8 year olds, people on a coma, and brain dead people along with the people who cannot feel pain are sincerely pointless.
We have lingered long enough on the shores of the cosmic ocean. We are ready at last to set sail for the stars.
~ Carl Sagan

by Death Metal » Thu May 08, 2014 1:53 pm

by Soldati Senza Confini » Thu May 08, 2014 1:54 pm
Korouse wrote:Soldati senza confini wrote:
You are just moving the goalposts because you have been proven wrong more than once.
The point is that the fetus, before it even has a heartbeat, developed organs, or developed brain function are not human. They are just cells.
After they have reached that level of maturity they are recognized for all intent and purposes as human biologically. Your argument about 8 year olds, people on a coma, and brain dead people along with the people who cannot feel pain are sincerely pointless.
You think you've proven me wrong, you're just taking my point and throwing it in the air.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

by Korouse » Thu May 08, 2014 1:55 pm

by Death Metal » Thu May 08, 2014 1:56 pm
Helvagon wrote:Soldati senza confini wrote:
You are just moving the goalposts because you have been proven wrong more than once.
The point is that the fetus, before it even has a heartbeat, developed organs, or developed brain function are not human. They are just cells.
After they have reached that level of maturity they are recognized for all intent and purposes as human biologically. Your argument about 8 year olds, people on a coma, and brain dead people along with the people who cannot feel pain are sincerely pointless.
Then what makes it human life?

by Soldati Senza Confini » Thu May 08, 2014 1:57 pm
Helvagon wrote:Soldati senza confini wrote:
You are just moving the goalposts because you have been proven wrong more than once.
The point is that the fetus, before it even has a heartbeat, developed organs, or developed brain function are not human. They are just cells.
After they have reached that level of maturity they are recognized for all intent and purposes as human biologically. Your argument about 8 year olds, people on a coma, and brain dead people along with the people who cannot feel pain are sincerely pointless.
Then what makes it human life? A change in location from the womb to the outside world?
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

by Death Metal » Thu May 08, 2014 1:57 pm
Korouse wrote:Death Metal wrote:
Until the very end of the pregnancy cycle, it absolutely is a parasite.
Parasite:An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.
Organism: An individual form of life, such as a plant, animal, bacterium, protist, or fungus; a body made up of organs, organelles, or other parts that work together to carry on the various processes of life.
By saying it's a parasite, you ADMIT that it is alive.

by MERIZoC » Thu May 08, 2014 1:58 pm
Death Metal wrote:Korouse wrote: Parasite:An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.
Organism: An individual form of life, such as a plant, animal, bacterium, protist, or fungus; a body made up of organs, organelles, or other parts that work together to carry on the various processes of life.
By saying it's a parasite, you ADMIT that it is alive.
Goalpost moving on your part. It's not a living human. It's just a living parasite.

by Scholmeria » Thu May 08, 2014 1:58 pm
Death Metal wrote:Scholmeria wrote:To be fair, I dont know, it is just that it does not bothers me.
What is more important is that at least in Europe people are getting enough from this cultural Marxism.
"Cultural Marxism" is pure anti-thought newspeak.
And I am proudly publicly pro-choice, because it is absolutely immoral and sexist to deny women the right to remove unwanted parasites from their body, especially for theocratic reasons.


by Death Metal » Thu May 08, 2014 1:59 pm

by Korouse » Thu May 08, 2014 1:59 pm
Death Metal wrote:Korouse wrote: Parasite:An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.
Organism: An individual form of life, such as a plant, animal, bacterium, protist, or fungus; a body made up of organs, organelles, or other parts that work together to carry on the various processes of life.
By saying it's a parasite, you ADMIT that it is alive.
Goalpost moving on your part. It's not a living human. It's just a living parasite.

by Scholmeria » Thu May 08, 2014 2:00 pm
Kelinfort wrote:Cultural Marxism?![]()
The hell?
It's cultural liberalism, as opposed to cultural conservatism. Marxism is an economic theory.

by MERIZoC » Thu May 08, 2014 2:00 pm
Parasitism is a non-mutual symbiotic relationship between species, where one species, the parasite, benefits at the expense of the other, the host.

by Death Metal » Thu May 08, 2014 2:00 pm
Scholmeria wrote:Oh, jeez if only your mummy preform that right on a such parasite long time ago, I would love to hear your reaction about that now.

by Soldati Senza Confini » Thu May 08, 2014 2:01 pm
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

by Scholmeria » Thu May 08, 2014 2:01 pm


by Mavorpen » Thu May 08, 2014 2:03 pm
Merizoc wrote:If you can find me an example of a parasite that isn't a species, I'll concede the point.

by Death Metal » Thu May 08, 2014 2:06 pm
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