Emily Letts abortion video

[Mavorpen]

There's a stigma around women who have abortions and a mistaken belief that abortions are always a traumatic experience for them. A lot of people use this as an excuse for why abortion should be banned. The video was made not only because of that, but because of further misinformation spread that abortions aren't "safe." There are plenty of scare tactics including "if you have an abortion, you an never have kids again." It's to show that the procedure is safe and not the horror show some make it out to be.

Well, you know how it goes: I had to ask an abortion related question to try to steer back on topic to attempt to avoid thread jacking too much. I've edited it to a different question that hopefully hasn't already been answered.

What? Your first question was fine. I'm confused.

[Mavorpen]

So wait, would it be racist if he dated everyone but white girls?

Well dating is far more discriminatory because we're looking for someone like ourselves.

So this is a poor comparison to draw.

Could we NOT entertain that attempt at a derail?

[Death Metal]

Weeds must be killed for other plants to survive.

So you advocate weed genocide because it inconveniences you.

Also; when you eat a tomato, you are eating a living being that is literally starving to death from the moment it was plucked, and is still alive when you eat it. Or if you fry it or slice it, you execute it painfully before eating it.

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

Are those humans inside of the person or otherwise violating the bodily autonomy of the person?
If so, they have a right to remove them, regardless of the outcome.

That's cold. "bodily autonomy" should not trump the life of another. They should just suck it up and carry the baby. Maybe the government should abolish this whole idea of bodily autonomy if it means people die over it.

Then you no longer have the right to defend yourself from rapists or people who are attacking you.

[Korouse]

Well dating is far more discriminatory because we're looking for someone like ourselves.

So this is a poor comparison to draw.

Could we NOT entertain that attempt at a derail?

"Entertain"? I'm not trolling.

[Kelinfort]

That's cold. "bodily autonomy" should not trump the life of another. They should just suck it up and carry the baby. Maybe the government should abolish this whole idea of bodily autonomy if it means people die over it.

Then you no longer have the right to defend yourself from rapists or people who are attacking you.

Abolishing bodily autonomy would be horrible.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

So, why did this woman make an abortion video?

There's a stigma around women who have abortions and a mistaken belief that abortions are always a traumatic experience for them. A lot of people use this as an excuse for why abortion should be banned. The video was made not only because of that, but because of further misinformation spread that abortions aren't "safe." There are plenty of scare tactics including "if you have an abortion, you an never have kids again." It's to show that the procedure is safe and not the horror show some make it out to be.

Well, right now it's a potential risk. Mostly because some people use clandestine or cheapo clinics.

Making abortion more widely available and divert more funds to it would solve the issue though.

[The Flood]

Anything that lends any support or credence of any kind to the pro-choice stance ought to be illegal, and utterly shunned by society as hate speech.

[Grave_n_idle]

That's cold. "bodily autonomy" should not trump the life of another.

Really? I have a family relation who is probably going to die, soon, without a transplant. Give him some of your organs.

No?

[Kelinfort]

There's a stigma around women who have abortions and a mistaken belief that abortions are always a traumatic experience for them. A lot of people use this as an excuse for why abortion should be banned. The video was made not only because of that, but because of further misinformation spread that abortions aren't "safe." There are plenty of scare tactics including "if you have an abortion, you an never have kids again." It's to show that the procedure is safe and not the horror show some make it out to be.

Well, right now it's a potential risk. Mostly because some people use clandestine clinics.

Making abortion more widely available and divert more funds to it would solve the issue though.

Which is why the pro life movement undermines its own values. If abortion were widely availed and accessible, the rate would remain constant and stable. It would decrease with more sex education. By banning abortion, more women and foetuses would die. This flies in the face of what the movement represents.

[Korouse]

That's cold. "bodily autonomy" should not trump the life of another.

Really? I have a family relation who is probably going to die, soon, without a transplant. Give him some of your organs.

No?

What organ?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Anything that lends any support or credence of any kind to the pro-choice stance ought to be illegal, and utterly shunned by society as hate speech.

WAY to sound far off the deep end.

But seriously, do you know what happens in certain countries where abortion is banned?

[Death Metal]

Anything that lends any support or credence of any kind to the pro-choice stance ought to be illegal, and utterly shunned by society as hate speech.

Women's rights is not hate speech.

[Grave_n_idle]

Really? I have a family relation who is probably going to die, soon, without a transplant. Give him some of your organs.

No?

What organ?

I don't see how that matters. Bodily autonomy shouldn't trump his life. Apparently.

[Korouse]

Anything that lends any support or credence of any kind to the pro-choice stance ought to be illegal, and utterly shunned by society as hate speech.

Women's rights is not hate speech.

It isn't women's rights. Lel

[Korouse]

What organ?

I don't see how that matters. Bodily autonomy shouldn't trump his life. Apparently.

Well, I would if he was a good person. Of course, I'm not going to ask you his life story.

[Death Metal]

Women's rights is not hate speech.

It isn't women's rights. Lel

It absolutely is. Women have the right to remove parasites from their body.

[Grave_n_idle]

Women's rights is not hate speech.

It isn't women's rights.

How is letting women make their own reproductive choices not a women's rights issue?

[Grave_n_idle]

I don't see how that matters. Bodily autonomy shouldn't trump his life. Apparently.

Well, I would if he was a good person. Of course, I'm not going to ask you his life story.

Irrelevant. Perhaps you should read the post I was initially responding to.

[Mavorpen]

It isn't women's rights.

How is letting women make their own reproductive choices not a women's rights issue?

I'm pretty sure he's mocking the argument.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Women's rights is not hate speech.

It isn't women's rights. Lel

So much enlightenment in this sentence.

[Grave_n_idle]

How is letting women make their own reproductive choices not a women's rights issue?

I'm pretty sure he's mocking the argument.

Eh... possibly. Unfortunately, there's no platform ridiculous enough that you can be sure someone isn't serious.

[Korouse]

It isn't women's rights.

How is letting women make their own reproductive choices not a women's rights issue?

It's not only the woman's rights when talking about abortion, it's also the fetuses rights.

[Mavorpen]

I'm pretty sure he's mocking the argument.

Eh... possibly. Unfortunately, there's no platform ridiculous enough that you can be sure someone isn't serious.

I think I was just trying to convince myself.

[Grave_n_idle]

How is letting women make their own reproductive choices not a women's rights issue?

It's not only the woman's rights when talking about abortion, it's also the fetuses rights.

A foetus doesn't have any rights. Nor should it.