Emily Letts abortion video

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

Ok I quit arguing. I am for the choice but seeing how american prochoice are fanatics I understand you have so mny people against abortion

I love the idea of a fanatical pro-choice position.

Do you want to choose? YES YOU DO!!!!

"I WISH NOT TO BE ENSLAVED TO MY BIOLOGY!!!! I DON'T WANT YOU TO FORCE ME TO GIVE BIRTH AGAINST MY WILL!!! I AM NOT A BROODMARE"

well honestly this is one thing I am fucking proud to be "fanatical" about.

[The Fascist American Empire]

Abortion is incredibly personal- sharing it with random people who don't need to know is a bad thing, end of story.

No it isn't. I've seen videos of heart surgery. This is no more personal than that.

There is… execution. The recording of which (at least in the case of the electric chair) was outlawed.

[Mavorpen]

No it isn't. I've seen videos of heart surgery. This is no more personal than that.

There is… execution. The recording of which (at least in the case of the electric chair) was outlawed.

What... what does that have to do with medical procedures?

[Resora]

No it isn't. I've seen videos of heart surgery. This is no more personal than that.

There is… execution. The recording of which (at least in the case of the electric chair) was outlawed.

What on earth does execution have to do with anything?

[The Fascist American Empire]

Also, a developing baby is, more often than not, the same species as the mother[...]

I'll say this again: parasitism is not restricted to organisms of the same species. Kleptoparasitism exists, you know.

So, something made with a human father and a human mother with only the blueprints on how to build a human, is a rabbit? That makes sense!

I mean really, give a construction crew the blueprint for a small shoe store in a tiny town, will they build the Empire State Building? Not unless they are really bad at their jobs.

[The Fascist American Empire]

There is… execution. The recording of which (at least in the case of the electric chair) was outlawed.

What on earth does execution have to do with anything?

there is definitely something more personal than heart surgery. Thus disproving their claim. Go back to your ridiculous pro-barbarism arguments now.

[Mavorpen]

I'll say this again: parasitism is not restricted to organisms of the same species. Kleptoparasitism exists, you know.

So, something made with a human father and a human mother with only the blueprints on how to build a human, is a rabbit? That makes sense!

I mean really, give a construction crew the blueprint for a small shoe store in a tiny town, will they build the Empire State Building? Not unless they are really bad at their jobs.

Is this post supposed to make sense?

Really, I feel like you're either drunk, or you're in the wrong thread.

[Mavorpen]

What on earth does execution have to do with anything?

there is definitely something more personal than heart surgery. Thus disproving their claim. Go back to your ridiculous pro-barbarism arguments now.

You didn't read my post, did you? I said that abortion is no more personal than heart surgery.

[The Fascist American Empire]

So, something made with a human father and a human mother with only the blueprints on how to build a human, is a rabbit? That makes sense!

I mean really, give a construction crew the blueprint for a small shoe store in a tiny town, will they build the Empire State Building? Not unless they are really bad at their jobs.

Is this post supposed to make sense?

Really, I feel like you're either drunk, or you're in the wrong thread.

I quoted the wrong clown.

[The Fascist American Empire]

there is definitely something more personal than heart surgery. Thus disproving their claim. Go back to your ridiculous pro-barbarism arguments now.

You didn't read my post, did you? I said that abortion is no more personal than heart surgery.

Both are extremely personal. I mean, a serial killer keeps the stuff to himself, right?

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

What on earth does execution have to do with anything?

there is definitely something more personal than heart surgery. Thus disproving their claim. Go back to your ridiculous pro-barbarism arguments now.

No it's not.
A thing is only personal if the person experiencing it makes it personal. Some people consider talking about mental illness personal. I'm open about mine. Some people think religion is a personal thing, others think it isn't. Some people think sex is a personal thing, others don't. Some people want their abortion to be a personal, private matter, and others, like Emily and me, find that it is not personal and that we feel it is important to share what we went through in order to stop the shame and stigma surrounding it.

[Mavorpen]

You didn't read my post, did you? I said that abortion is no more personal than heart surgery.

Both are extremely personal.

No they aren't. If they were, no one would allow them to be recorded. And based on how readily available a video of heart surgery is on sites like YouTube...

[Kelinfort]

One final reiteration of my argument, seeing as though the pro lifers have all but ignored it:

My primary argument for the right to choice, abortion, and bodily autonomy is this: abortion rates would not decline if it were illegal, it is estimated before Roe v Wade that between 200,000 to 1.2 million abortions occurred, with a much higher rate of women dying. As a male, and I continue to say this, I hope to never and will always do my utmost never to put a women in a situation where she has to choose or where I influence her decision.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I'll say this again: parasitism is not restricted to organisms of the same species. Kleptoparasitism exists, you know.

So, something made with a human father and a human mother with only the blueprints on how to build a human, is a rabbit? That makes sense!

I mean really, give a construction crew the blueprint for a small shoe store in a tiny town, will they build the Empire State Building? Not unless they are really bad at their jobs.

The species argument is a poor one because of the fact kleptoparasitism exists.

I do agree with Mav that a human fetus exhibits parasitic properties. However, I also agree with you that it isn't not because parasite's negative connotations, but because parasites are external agents, ergo agents that come into the host or somehow invade their property and space.

A fetus doesnt fill the criteria of being am external agent. As fetuses develop from part of a woman. Hence not a parasite, although it doesnt mean it doesnt have parasitic properties.

[Korouse]

The circle continues, no end in sight, the rage comments ensue

[The Fascist American Empire]

Both are extremely personal.

No they aren't. If they were, no one would allow them to be recorded. And based on how readily available a video of heart surgery is on sites like YouTube...

There are also vids of beheadings readily available. Wanna see? You honestly don't expect me to believe that Youtube isn't extremely flawed in the matter of what's personal and what's not, do you?

[Mavorpen]

There are also vids of beheadings readily available. Wanna see? You honestly don't expect me to believe that Youtube isn't extremely flawed in the matter of what's personal and what's not, do you?

Beheadings are also not "personal". It is absolutely important for us to be aware of things like that.

I really don't know what argument you're trying to make. All I know is that it's falling flat on its face.

[Chaunceys]

Killing a child is never the way to go*. If you don't want it, give birth and put it up for adoption.

*Unless it's incest, rape, or the mothers life is in danger.

great, just great

[Stagnant Axon Terminal]

No they aren't. If they were, no one would allow them to be recorded. And based on how readily available a video of heart surgery is on sites like YouTube...

There are also vids of beheadings readily available. Wanna see? You honestly don't expect me to believe that Youtube isn't extremely flawed in the matter of what's personal and what's not, do you?

1. Things are only personal if the person experiencing them thinks it should be a private matter
2. There is no law that says "this is personal! you can't share video of something that happened to you! go straight to jail do not pass go do not collect $200!

[Korouse]

There are also vids of beheadings readily available. Wanna see? You honestly don't expect me to believe that Youtube isn't extremely flawed in the matter of what's personal and what's not, do you?

Beheadings are also not "personal". It is absolutely important for us to be aware of things like that.

I really don't know what argument you're trying to make. All I know is that it's falling flat on its face.

I can show you videos of asian women bathing... On youtube... is that important to the public?

[Mavorpen]

Beheadings are also not "personal". It is absolutely important for us to be aware of things like that.

I really don't know what argument you're trying to make. All I know is that it's falling flat on its face.

I can show you videos of asian women bathing... On youtube... is that important to the public?

Yes. Obviously it is if people watch it.

[The Fascist American Empire]

There are also vids of beheadings readily available. Wanna see? You honestly don't expect me to believe that Youtube isn't extremely flawed in the matter of what's personal and what's not, do you?

Beheadings are also not "personal". It is absolutely important for us to be aware of things like that.

I really don't know what argument you're trying to make. All I know is that it's falling flat on its face.

How is DEATH not personal? And we're supposed to just grab the popcorn and watch innocent people get hacked in two for an hour?

[Kelinfort]

Beheadings are also not "personal". It is absolutely important for us to be aware of things like that.

I really don't know what argument you're trying to make. All I know is that it's falling flat on its face.

I can show you videos of asian women bathing... On youtube... is that important to the public?

No video on YouTube, controversial or otherwise, is important to the public. This particular video has done less to destigmatise as it has to generate controversy.

[Korouse]

I can show you videos of asian women bathing... On youtube... is that important to the public?

Yes. Obviously it is if people watch it.

I don't consider the weird, 40 year old, to be the public.

That's a minority...

[The Fascist American Empire]

I can show you videos of asian women bathing... On youtube... is that important to the public?

Yes. Obviously it is if people watch it.

If people watch a slug crawl, that makes it important? We have to know about that slug?