James Cameron's Avatar... is Bad?

[Amor Pulchritudo]

Avatar is my new favourite film. It's amazing. I am going to watch it again as soon as possible.

[Grandydia]

Am I really meant to believe that with all these major advances in science and technology and biology, no-one's managed to make a better wheelchair? Let alone not have advanced surgery enough to repair spinal injuries?

Actually adressed in the movie, the proceedemtn is avaiable, but the main character doesn't have money to pay for it.

[The Rich Port]

Jeez, have critics already forgotten District 9? For 3D movies, that one was great compared to Smurfs ExTREME!!!11!!!!

[EvilDarkMagicians]

I've heard it's visually stunning, but the script is like a space western where the evil american marines serving their evil corporate masters are out to slaughter the natives.

I'll prbable go see it.

GENRE MISH MASH FAIL.

It's not like that at all.

It actually is :/

[Kiah-Lani-Lew]

Jeez, have critics already forgotten District 9? For 3D movies, that one was great compared to Smurfs ExTREME!!!11!!!!

District 9 was good i forgotted that one but Avatar is better so...

[Kiah-Lani-Lew]

I've heard it's visually stunning, but the script is like a space western where the evil american marines serving their evil corporate masters are out to slaughter the natives.

I'll prbable go see it.

GENRE MISH MASH FAIL.

It's not like that at all.

It actually is :/

nowt really

[Gravlen]

I've heard it's visually stunning, but the script is like a space western where the evil american marines serving their evil corporate masters are out to slaughter the natives.

I'll prbable go see it.

GENRE MISH MASH FAIL.

It's not like that at all.

It actually is :/

nowt really

Yes really. Seriously.

[Kiah-Lani-Lew]

I've heard it's visually stunning, but the script is like a space western where the evil american marines serving their evil corporate masters are out to slaughter the natives.

I'll prbable go see it.

GENRE MISH MASH FAIL.

It's not like that at all.

It actually is :/

nowt really

Yes really. Seriously.

i dont even know what there talking about anymore!!!! sooo confused!!!!

[North Suran]

You want originality, there have been plenty of original movies in the last two years.
I can point you to a couple of those:
Il vento fa il suo giro (see the trailer at http://www.ilventofailsuogiro.com/)

A film so original that I'd never even heard of it before.

Thus rather firmly planting a bullet into the head of the notion that a film can only be good if its original.

If I recorded 55 minutes of myself running around naked and slavered in red paint, before passing it off as some allegory for the Holocaust, it would not be a good film (although it would be original, and would no doubt get a Palme D'Or from Cannes).

Persepolis.

Original to the extent that I have never before seen so much fuss being made over a film which looks like it was directed, acted and drawn by a 5-year old.

[Gravlen]

I like Citizen Kane... and I think that in the future Avatar will be studied as a perfect example of a particular genre just as Citizen Kane is now...

I doubt it.

It might be studied due to its technological prowess, but it's not an outstanding movie overall.

[Kiah-Lani-Lew]

I like Citizen Kane... and I think that in the future Avatar will be studied as a perfect example of a particular genre just as Citizen Kane is now...

I doubt it.

It might be studied due to its technological prowess, but it's not an outstanding movie overall.

keep telling urself that

[Dimoniquid]

cool little planet with the blue people.

So they're the smurfs on steroids?

No. They're primitive African smurfs on steroids.

[Kiah-Lani-Lew]

You want originality, there have been plenty of original movies in the last two years.
I can point you to a couple of those:
Il vento fa il suo giro (see the trailer at http://www.ilventofailsuogiro.com/)

A film so original that I'd never even heard of it before.

Thus rather firmly planting a bullet into the head of the notion that a film can only be good if its original.

If I recorded 55 minutes of myself running around naked and slavered in red paint, before passing it off as some allegory for the Holocaust, it would not be a good film (although it would be original, and would no doubt get a Palme D'Or from Cannes).

Persepolis.

Original to the extent that I have never before seen so much fuss being made over a film which looks like it was directed, acted and drawn by a 5-year old.

ok? i dont get it why is originallity bad?

[Gravlen]

I like Citizen Kane... and I think that in the future Avatar will be studied as a perfect example of a particular genre just as Citizen Kane is now...

I doubt it.

It might be studied due to its technological prowess, but it's not an outstanding movie overall.

keep telling urself that

Well it isn't.

I know that's just my subjective opinon, but you're welcome to offer an intelligent rebuttal if you can manage...

[North Suran]

You want originality, there have been plenty of original movies in the last two years.
I can point you to a couple of those:
Il vento fa il suo giro (see the trailer at http://www.ilventofailsuogiro.com/)

A film so original that I'd never even heard of it before.

Thus rather firmly planting a bullet into the head of the notion that a film can only be good if its original.

If I recorded 55 minutes of myself running around naked and slavered in red paint, before passing it off as some allegory for the Holocaust, it would not be a good film (although it would be original, and would no doubt get a Palme D'Or from Cannes).

Persepolis.

Original to the extent that I have never before seen so much fuss being made over a film which looks like it was directed, acted and drawn by a 5-year old.

ok? i dont get it why is originallity bad?

It's neither inherently bad nor inherently good.

Hence rendering all these "This movie sucks because the plot isn't original!" comments redundant.

[Kiah-Lani-Lew]

Spoiler ALERT!
Dude the best scene, by far, was the praying scene, it looked fucking awesome.

that was so disturbing i laughed haha

[EvilDarkMagicians]

cool little planet with the blue people.

So they're the smurfs on steroids?

No. They're primitive African smurfs on steroids with tree penises in their hair.

Fixed.

[The_pantless_hero]

I like Citizen Kane... and I think that in the future Avatar will be studied as a perfect example of a particular genre just as Citizen Kane is now...

I doubt it.

It might be studied due to its technological prowess, but it's not an outstanding movie overall.

I bet the guys who did Battle for Terra are pissed..

[Kiah-Lani-Lew]

cool little planet with the blue people.

So they're the smurfs on steroids?

No. They're primitive African smurfs on steroids with tree penises in their hair.

Fixed.

gross

[North Suran]

I like Citizen Kane... and I think that in the future Avatar will be studied as a perfect example of a particular genre just as Citizen Kane is now...

I doubt it.

It might be studied due to its technological prowess, but it's not an outstanding movie overall.

I bet the guys who did Battle for Terra are pissed..

They are both rather polar opposites, actually - at least in terms of reaction.

Battle for Terra gets praised for its "original" concept and condemned for its crappy, playdo-like CGI.

Avatar gets praised for its breathakingly awesome visuals and condemned for its unoriginal storyline.

Which is odd, since both plots are - at least superficially - rather similar.

[New Ganurath]

If I may present a moment of fridge logic regarding the plot of the movie:

The magnetic field that kept the Hallelujah Mountains afloat was tied to the sacred tree. The fleet was going to move in to bomb the sacred tree. Did none of them consider what would happen to the f***ing mountain range above them once the tree stops holding them up?

[EvilDarkMagicians]

If I may present a moment of fridge logic regarding the plot of the movie:

The magnetic field that kept the Hallelujah Mountains afloat was tied to the sacred tree. The fleet was going to move in to bomb the sacred tree. Did none of them consider what would happen to the f***ing mountain range above them once the tree stops holding them up?

They didn't know that though. They thought the whole 'connection' thing was all mumbo jumbo, when in fact it could be proved scientifically.

[JuNii]

If I may present a moment of fridge logic regarding the plot of the movie:

The magnetic field that kept the Hallelujah Mountains afloat was tied to the sacred tree. The fleet was going to move in to bomb the sacred tree. Did none of them consider what would happen to the f***ing mountain range above them once the tree stops holding them up?

They didn't know that though. They thought the whole 'connection' thing was all mumbo jumbo, when in fact it could be proved scientifically.

... if they only took time to look.

[Augarundus]

2.5/5

The 3D was awesome, but it's no substitute for story. Avatar's story was not mediocre; it was bad. It wasn't even the cliche's that bothered me, and the acting was relatively good. Simply put, the story was generic, predictable, and there was not ONE plot twist in the entire movie. I predicted within the first 10 minutes EXACTLY how the movie would turn out. And, during the scene where the tree of whatever was burning, I half-expected Tsu'Tey (and I had to look the name up; I remembered ONE name the ENTIRE movie: Jake) to stab the chieftain to death to gain power but, no, he runs away like everyone else. There wasn't a single plot twist, and even the element of betrayal in the film was known from the start.

I would have liked to see this sort of thing turn out quaisi-Angels and Demons with twists and surprises, a much darker, insidious world, and a better presentation.

50%. They got effects and filming right... now where's the best part; story?!

[JuNii]

50%. They got effects and filming right... now where's the best part; story?!

died the death that many storylines of Sci Fi and Action movies go...

buried alive by the Special Effects.

truly a sad way to die.