by Kiah-Lani-Lew » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:24 am
by You-Gi-Owe » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:28 am
by Potarius » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:28 am
by Zombie PotatoHeads » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:33 am
by Techno-Soviet » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:34 am
You-Gi-Owe wrote:I've heard it's visually stunning, but the script is like a space western where the evil american marines serving their evil corporate masters are out to slaughter the natives.
I'll prbable go see it.
by You-Gi-Owe » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:35 am
Techno-Soviet wrote:You-Gi-Owe wrote:I've heard it's visually stunning, but the script is like a space western where the evil american marines serving their evil corporate masters are out to slaughter the natives.
I'll prbable go see it.
Except they SHOULD SLAUGHTER THE NATIVES, STEAL THEIR LAND AND RAPE THEIR PLANET FOR OUR USE. D:<
by JuNii » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:39 am
Techno-Soviet wrote:You-Gi-Owe wrote:I've heard it's visually stunning, but the script is like a space western where the evil american marines serving their evil corporate masters are out to slaughter the natives.
I'll prbable go see it.
Except they SHOULD SLAUGHTER THE NATIVES, STEAL THEIR LAND AND RAPE THEIR PLANET FOR OUR USE. D:<
by Playing In The Water » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:40 am
Terraliberty wrote:What do you call an abortion in Prague? A cancelled Czech!
by Kiah-Lani-Lew » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:41 am
Zombie PotatoHeads wrote:I was just going to make a thread asking people if it's worth seeing. I've not seen it. I was considering going but two things are making me baulk:
1. The ticket prices are ridiculously high here. It's almost double the normal price because it's 3-D and 3+ hours long. What with travelling, and the usual vittals necessary for movie-going, I'll be spending close to the equivalent of $35US. For a movie. For me to consider parting with that much dosh, it needs to be an extremely great movie.
2. It's written and directed by James Cameron. Which means, if Titanic is anything to go by, this movie'll
a. Be at least an hour too long;
b. Be self-indulgent twaddle;
c. Be over-wrought and sodden with simplistic & simple-minded moralising;
d. Have a piss-poor plot so full of holes you could sail the Titanic through;
e. Be stuffed full of 2-dimensional characters (more caricarture than character) emoting and chewing the scenery;
f. Have dialogue so painful, so cheesy and so banal one wonders if it's not in fact a parody on bad movie-making;
g. Have 2 hours of mind-numbing dullness building up towards the climax of an hour or so of total action. The knowledge of impending cool special effects and big explosions is to ensure the male theatre goer remains in the theatre while the drippy love story being played out in the first 2 hours is there to entertain the female theatre goer. I notice the trailers focus almost solely on, what I'm assuming, will be the final battle scenes. Which makes one wonder what happens to get us to that point and why is it not worth promoting.
I've only seen the trailers and already I can see one major plothole that perhaps someone who has seen it can explain. And this is: Why is it, when humanity has achieved the technology to allow them to transverse intergalactic space, to create massive war machines: robots, hoverships, laser cannons etc, and to be able to clone and create lifeforms and transfer a person's consciousness into it then why the hell is the main character stuck in a 20th Century wheelchair? Am I really meant to believe that with all these major advances in science and technology and biology, no-one's managed to make a better wheelchair? Let alone not have advanced surgery enough to repair spinal injuries? Least they could have done is put him in a floating jet chair.
Seems to me, the only reason he's in the wheelchair is to give his character depth and pathos (thus going from 1 dimension all the way up to 1.5) and to give him a reason for siding with the blue aliens against the nasty evil humans. I would not be surprised if there's even a scene in the movie where his blue love interest tells him the humans are crippling them by destroying their forest but he doesn't know what that's like. Because one could ever accuse James Cameron of subtlety.
But of course I could be wrong. So if anyone has seen, what are your reviews?
I was dismayed to read a review of the new Sherlock Holmes movie as 'being Snatch meets Holmes!"
If ever there was a sentence designed to keep me as far from a theatre as possible twould be this one. Snatch was a truly awful movie,: the cry of a pathetically uncool person (Guy Ritchie) desperately trying to be cool. It was akin to an overweight 35 yr old getting into a 'John Travolta circa 1978' white suit and heading down to the local night club, thinking the entire time he's hip and cool.
Having just watched the trailer, it's not so much 'Snatch meets Homes' as 'Snatch v1.5'. There were scenes that I swear must have come from Snatch cutting room floor.
by JuNii » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:45 am
the healthcare bill failed.Zombie PotatoHeads wrote:I've only seen the trailers and already I can see one major plothole that perhaps someone who has seen it can explain. And this is: Why is it, when humanity has achieved the technology to allow them to transverse intergalactic space, to create massive war machines: robots, hoverships, laser cannons etc, and to be able to clone and create lifeforms and transfer a person's consciousness into it then why the hell is the main character stuck in a 20th Century wheelchair?
Military cutbacksZombie PotatoHeads wrote: Am I really meant to believe that with all these major advances in science and technology and biology, no-one's managed to make a better wheelchair?
not covered by private insurace,Zombie PotatoHeads wrote: Let alone not have advanced surgery enough to repair spinal injuries?
not environmentally friendly.Zombie PotatoHeads wrote: Least they could have done is put him in a floating jet chair.
by Kiah-Lani-Lew » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:47 am
Playing In The Water wrote:Love love love love LOVE Avatar! I've seen it twice now, and it's only been out here, mmn...two or three days? I'm planning on going to see it again, actually! (Maybe, you know, once I've let it settle a bit; a week sounds about right. )
But yes, LOVED it to death, and I just got back from seeing the IMAX version of it, which is just incredibly awesome. And yes, the rumours that the visuals are stunning while the plotline is basic is mostly true; it is a lot like Dances With Wolves on a jungle moon. That's not important! The story is one that I love, too, no matter how many times and in how many ways it's told, and this is - by far - the best telling of it I've ever seen. The planet is beautiful, the imagination and detail put into the flora and fauna is simply inspiring, and the vastness of the scope of the movie is just...well, it's jaw-dropping. Everything from the geological formations to the exact content specifics of the atmosphere to how certain creatures regulate body temperatures has been detailed, although you don't get it all from just seeing the movie once or twice.
But yes, anyway, as if it's not blatantly obvious, I am a hundred percent enamoured with the film. It's just awesome! A great ride, and the best use of my money on a theatre experience ever!
Plus, like...Sam Worthington! Come on!
by Zombie PotatoHeads » Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:54 am
Kiah-Lani-Lew wrote: cool little planet with the blue people.
by Linker Niederrhein » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:04 am
by Playing In The Water » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:22 am
Kiah-Lani-Lew wrote:Lucky! Yeah thats what I liked about it was because it was so original ad make believe. And I DID stare at those wierd pink, blue, and orange glowing plants during the whole movie haha
Terraliberty wrote:What do you call an abortion in Prague? A cancelled Czech!
by Barringtonia » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:23 am
Linker Niederrhein wrote:[*] I've a grand total of one (1) eye. Those fancy 3D graphics you need to wear those ridiculous glasses that make everyone point and laugh at you for? I can't see them[/list]
Fuck 3D cinema.
by Tunizcha » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:25 am
by JuNii » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:25 am
Linker Niederrhein wrote:I wont see it because
- It doesn't have enough robots. James Cameron films have to contain humanoid killing machines (Although I'll settle for flying Piranhas if need be)
- I've a grand total of one (1) eye. Those fancy 3D graphics you need to wear those ridiculous glasses that make everyone point and laugh at you for? I can't see them
Fuck 3D cinema.
by Playing In The Water » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:32 am
Kiah-Lani-Lew wrote:The ticket prices are high which is sad because its hard to bring alot of people along and you can only go and see it once which I wish I could see it twice because after all the sh**ty movies I have seen in 2009 Avatar was break-through for me. The movie was a little too short actually I wish it would have been longer because it ends with a running time of 2 hours and 30 minutes I mean you could have let it run a little longer for 30 minutes so I didnt have to take off the glasses and leave that cool little planet with the blue people.
Zombie PotatoHeads wrote:Have 2 hours of mind-numbing dullness building up towards the climax of an hour or so of total action. The knowledge of impending cool special effects and big explosions is to ensure the male theatre goer remains in the theatre while the drippy love story being played out in the first 2 hours is there to entertain the female theatre goer. I notice the trailers focus almost solely on, what I'm assuming, will be the final battle scenes. Which makes one wonder what happens to get us to that point and why is it not worth promoting.
Terraliberty wrote:What do you call an abortion in Prague? A cancelled Czech!
by Linker Niederrhein » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:36 am
But what about the killdeath 'bots?JuNii wrote:Linker Niederrhein wrote:I wont see it because
- It doesn't have enough robots. James Cameron films have to contain humanoid killing machines (Although I'll settle for flying Piranhas if need be)
- I've a grand total of one (1) eye. Those fancy 3D graphics you need to wear those ridiculous glasses that make everyone point and laugh at you for? I can't see them
Fuck 3D cinema.
they should have normal 2D ones.
TBH, after a while, you don't even notice the 3d effect.
by Playing In The Water » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:42 am
Linker Niederrhein wrote:JuNii wrote:they should have normal 2D ones.
TBH, after a while, you don't even notice the 3d effect.
But what about the killdeath 'bots?
With the exception of True Lies, I've only ever watched Cameron films that have either killdeath 'bots, killdeath' Piranhas or killdeath' aliens.
And True Lies still has a killdeath 'bot, he just pretends not to be one.
And no. Oversized hippie smurfs don't count as killdeath aliens.
Terraliberty wrote:What do you call an abortion in Prague? A cancelled Czech!
by Hamilay » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:43 am
Zombie PotatoHeads wrote:2. It's written and directed by James Cameron. Which means, if Titanic is anything to go by, this movie'll
a. Be at least an hour too long;
b. Be self-indulgent twaddle;
c. Be over-wrought and sodden with simplistic & simple-minded moralising;
d. Have a piss-poor plot so full of holes you could sail the Titanic through;
e. Be stuffed full of 2-dimensional characters (more caricarture than character) emoting and chewing the scenery;
f. Have dialogue so painful, so cheesy and so banal one wonders if it's not in fact a parody on bad movie-making;
g. Have 2 hours of mind-numbing dullness building up towards the climax of an hour or so of total action. The knowledge of impending cool special effects and big explosions is to ensure the male theatre goer remains in the theatre while the drippy love story being played out in the first 2 hours is there to entertain the female theatre goer. I notice the trailers focus almost solely on, what I'm assuming, will be the final battle scenes. Which makes one wonder what happens to get us to that point and why is it not worth promoting.
I've only seen the trailers and already I can see one major plothole that perhaps someone who has seen it can explain. And this is: Why is it, when humanity has achieved the technology to allow them to transverse intergalactic space, to create massive war machines: robots, hoverships, laser cannons etc, and to be able to clone and create lifeforms and transfer a person's consciousness into it then why the hell is the main character stuck in a 20th Century wheelchair? Am I really meant to believe that with all these major advances in science and technology and biology, no-one's managed to make a better wheelchair? Let alone not have advanced surgery enough to repair spinal injuries? Least they could have done is put him in a floating jet chair.
Seems to me, the only reason he's in the wheelchair is to give his character depth and pathos (thus going from 1 dimension all the way up to 1.5) and to give him a reason for siding with the blue aliens against the nasty evil humans. I would not be surprised if there's even a scene in the movie where his blue love interest tells him the humans are crippling them by destroying their forest but he doesn't know what that's like. Because one could ever accuse James Cameron of subtlety.
by Techno-Soviet » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:48 am
JuNii wrote:Techno-Soviet wrote:You-Gi-Owe wrote:I've heard it's visually stunning, but the script is like a space western where the evil american marines serving their evil corporate masters are out to slaughter the natives.
I'll prbable go see it.
Except they SHOULD SLAUGHTER THE NATIVES, STEAL THEIR LAND AND RAPE THEIR PLANET FOR OUR USE. D:<
...
I would prefer SLAUGHTER THE LAND, STEAL THEIR PLANET AND RAPE THE NATIVES!
but hey... that's just me...
by Playing In The Water » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:49 am
Hamilay wrote:They do have advanced surgery to repair spinal injuries, but he can't afford it on his veterans' benefits, which is the main reason why he accepts this avatar job.
I thought the major plot hole was why they didn't just level the jungle from orbit in a kilometer radius around all the mining sites and routes to them. Or better yet, maybe set up in the plains instead of the jungle where everything is trying to kill you.
Terraliberty wrote:What do you call an abortion in Prague? A cancelled Czech!
by New Ganurath » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:03 am
It's only a matter of time before someone makes a "Do You Want To Date My Avatar?" AMV on YouTube.Techno-Soviet wrote:I like this better. The blue alien chicks are actually pretty hawt too. o:
by Slaytesics » Mon Dec 21, 2009 2:05 am
Timurid Empire wrote:I do not understand people like this. How can you fear any human being or interaction with them? We are all Human, and we all bleed the same. Unless their a Hemophiliac.
Ranbo wrote:Heey! I'm not perv!
You name it, you claim it. You were the one that thought of it in the first place. :p
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