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Posted: **Sat May 10, 2014 6:21 pm**

Interesting to see that Russian televoting put Austria in third place. Maybe Russia is more gay friendly than you think. Or maybe Putin rigged it to show how Europe is degenerate and bad for you.

Posted: **Sat May 10, 2014 6:23 pm**

Respawn wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:France only got two points. I'm starting to think they don't take the competition seriously anymore...

If I'm not mistaken, it's the first time France has ever come last.

Wow. Hopefully this won't be the start of a trend.

Posted: **Sat May 10, 2014 6:24 pm**

Respawn wrote:Interesting to see that Russian televoting put Austria in third place. Maybe Russia is more gay friendly than you think. Or maybe Putin rigged it to show how Europe is degenerate and bad for you.

I guess the militant anti-gay thing is largely an establishment thing, a lot of citizens, especially the younger ones, probably don't care.

Posted: **Sat May 10, 2014 6:25 pm**

Dejanic wrote:
Elke and Elba wrote:
I'm thinking that both were actually well received by both the public and jury. I have a feeling the Neds got dissed too much by the self-proclaimed professionals on the blogs that we have a false sense that the Ned isn't that pops.

I dunno, the Netherlands was just never that popular in the polls or in the betting stations, it was always Armenia/Sweden/Austria that were being mentioned, even Azerbaijan got mentioned more so, there was a few brief moments where the Netherlands was mentioned, but that's it. So it seemed very out of place the Netherlands suddenly getting constant twelve's and almost taking it. I think It came off as more of a Juries champion than a peoples champion. Austria on the other hand always came off as a "peoples champion", but not really a "juries champion", so I was personally under the impression that Sweden would probably take the victory (Sweden seemed to be a good balance both ways).

Personally, I thought the Dutch act was actually awful, but that's besides the point.

It was slowly creeping up with the bookies, and it was about third favourite going into the contest. I think that went unnoticed largely because Conchita got so much more momentum behind her after her semi. Sweden I found boring, to be honest - it needed more to get over people not wanting the contest to go Sweden-Denmark-Sweden.

Posted: **Sat May 10, 2014 6:34 pm**

Elke and Elba wrote:They add the scores and give ranks from lowest to highest scores

All of country gets to vote = 50%
5 people get to vote because they are "experts" = 50%

Down with the jury.

Posted: **Sat May 10, 2014 6:36 pm**

Meh, the Austrian entry was okay, but it didn't deserve to win just to show how "tolerent" Europe is. Either way, this was a good Eurovision, though I didn't like how basically all the songs were in English. Bring back the native language rule!

Posted: **Sat May 10, 2014 6:37 pm**

Respawn wrote:Interesting to see that Russian televoting put Austria in third place. Maybe Russia is more gay friendly than you think. Or maybe Putin rigged it to show how Europe is degenerate and bad for you.

Bearded ladies are probably still part of mainstream light entertainment in the parts of Europe that don't see Conchita as a beacon of LGBT rights (and don't see beacons of LGBT rights as a good thing), so she was onto a real win-win there.

Posted: **Sat May 10, 2014 6:40 pm**

Saruhan wrote:Meh, the Austrian entry was okay, but it didn't deserve to win just to show how "tolerent" Europe is. Either way, this was a good Eurovision, though I didn't like how basically all the songs were in English. Bring back the native language rule!

The Austrian song was a good song, transvestite-sung or not. Although I do wish there were more native language songs...

Posted: **Sat May 10, 2014 6:40 pm**

Respawn wrote:Interesting to see that Russian televoting put Austria in third place. Maybe Russia is more gay friendly than you think. Or maybe Putin rigged it to show how Europe is degenerate and bad for you.

And Ukraine didn't give it's 12 to Russia. Russia only had to make do with four.

Posted: **Sat May 10, 2014 6:41 pm**

Uieurnthlaal wrote:
Saruhan wrote:Meh, the Austrian entry was okay, but it didn't deserve to win just to show how "tolerent" Europe is. Either way, this was a good Eurovision, though I didn't like how basically all the songs were in English. Bring back the native language rule!

The Austrian song was a good song, transvestite-sung or not. Although I do wish there were more native language songs...

It was alright. There weren't a lot of good songs in this Eurovision, no Alcohol is free, that's for sure. I really liked the Russian song, though. Or maybe the Russian performers

Posted: **Sat May 10, 2014 9:39 pm**

You know, I have to wonder, why did France do so poorly? France's entry was, legit, not bad. Hell, I'd say it was my third favorite behind Austria and Sweden. It was upbeat, cheerful, fun, and had a great beat (even if the lyrics were French); I don't get why nobody seems to like it, or why it did so poorly in the voting.

Posted: **Sat May 10, 2014 9:41 pm**

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:You know, I have to wonder, why did France do so poorly? France's entry was, legit, not bad. Hell, I'd say it was my third favorite behind Austria and Sweden. It was upbeat, cheerful, fun, and had a great beat (even if the lyrics were French); I don't get why nobody seems to like it, or why it did so poorly in the voting.

Beats me. I also expected Spain and the UK to do well. Hell, even favorites Hungary didn't do as well as expected.

Posted: **Sat May 10, 2014 9:43 pm**

Costa Fierro wrote:Beats me. I also expected Spain and the UK to do well. Hell, even favorites Hungary didn't do as well as expected.

Hungary was pretty good, too. How badly did they do?

Posted: **Sat May 10, 2014 10:49 pm**

I'm still upset Portugal didn't get through. It was the only one I actually liked.

Posted: **Sat May 10, 2014 11:43 pm**

Dejanic wrote:
Respawn wrote:Interesting to see that Russian televoting put Austria in third place. Maybe Russia is more gay friendly than you think. Or maybe Putin rigged it to show how Europe is degenerate and bad for you.

I guess the militant anti-gay thing is largely an establishment thing, a lot of citizens, especially the younger ones, probably don't care.

Well there's the part where gay people frequently get assaulted and boxed out of employment and sometimes fucking murdered.

I can see how they might think they're unwelcome in Eastern Europe.

Posted: **Sun May 11, 2014 12:38 am**

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:Beats me. I also expected Spain and the UK to do well. Hell, even favorites Hungary didn't do as well as expected.

Hungary was pretty good, too. How badly did they do?

Erm...they finished below Ukraine and Russia. I know that.

Edit: Apparently Eurovision was broadcast in NZ for the first time this year. Great fucking advertising.

Posted: **Sun May 11, 2014 1:26 am**

So I just looked at the eurovision forum on facebook.....
It made me physically ill

Posted: **Sun May 11, 2014 1:33 am**

Kyuji wrote:So I just looked at the eurovision forum on facebook.....
It made me physically ill

Posted: **Sun May 11, 2014 1:37 am**

Costa Fierro wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Hungary was pretty good, too. How badly did they do?

Erm...they finished below Ukraine and Russia. I know that.

Edit: Apparently Eurovision was broadcast in NZ for the first time this year. Great fucking advertising.

That's nonsense. Hungary finished in fifth, behind Austria, the Ned, Sweden and Armenia. Ahead of Russia and Ukraine.

Posted: **Sun May 11, 2014 1:40 am**

Elke and Elba wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Erm...they finished below Ukraine and Russia. I know that.

Edit: Apparently Eurovision was broadcast in NZ for the first time this year. Great fucking advertising.

That's nonsense. Hungary finished in fifth, behind Austria, the Ned, Sweden and Armenia. Ahead of Russia and Ukraine.

Well I watched the video some time ago. God for fucking bid I make a mistake every now and then.

Posted: **Sun May 11, 2014 1:41 am**

Costa Fierro wrote:
Respawn wrote:Interesting to see that Russian televoting put Austria in third place. Maybe Russia is more gay friendly than you think. Or maybe Putin rigged it to show how Europe is degenerate and bad for you.

And Ukraine didn't give it's 12 to Russia. Russia only had to make do with four.

The crowd started booing when Russia only gave Ukraine 7 points.
On a related note, the Russian media's reaction to Austria's victory was glorious.

Posted: **Sun May 11, 2014 1:42 am**

Arkinesia wrote:Well there's the part where gay people frequently get assaulted and boxed out of employment and sometimes fucking murdered.

I can see how they might think they're unwelcome in Eastern Europe.

I don't mean to threadjack, but people keep acting as if this is exclusive to Russia. I'm sure I could dig up a few dozen videos of LGBT people getting beat up in America/Britain/Germany etc. Don't act as if Russians are the only homophobes on the planet.

Posted: **Sun May 11, 2014 1:44 am**

Respawn wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
And Ukraine didn't give it's 12 to Russia. Russia only had to make do with four.

The crowd started booing when Russia only gave Ukraine 7 points.
On a related note, the Russian media's reaction to Austria's victory was glorious.

I don't speak Russian but presumably they're going apeshit about a transgender winning. Maybe they don't remember 1998...

Also, did you see one of my recent post edits? We had it broadcast here.

Posted: **Sun May 11, 2014 1:46 am**

Hmmm , poeple posting porn , must be summer

Posted: **Sun May 11, 2014 1:50 am**

He seems to be all over the forums.

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