Gun Control - A Political Thread

[Sociobiology]

two words, President Pierce.
credited with doing more to cause the civil war than any other single person AND so unpopular his own party would not support nomination for a second term. although he was brilliant at international politics, he just sucked at everything domestic.

then you have ones like John Tyler or Warren Harding.

the sad truth is the recent ones always look like the worst, because their always in your mind.

Ja, but not all of the recent ones were that bad. Reagan and Clinton were good.

I wouldn't put Reagan anywhere near Clinton, but that might be because I have a lower opinion of Mr invade, deficit spend, and sell weapons to terrorists.

[Imperializt Russia]

Ja, but not all of the recent ones were that bad. Reagan and Clinton were good.

I wouldn't put Reagan anywhere near Clinton, but that might be because I have a lower opinion of Mr invade, deficit spend, and sell weapons to terrorists.

Which one?

[Big Jim P]

I wouldn't put Reagan anywhere near Clinton, but that might be because I have a lower opinion of Mr invade, deficit spend, and sell weapons to terrorists.

Which one?

Good question.

[Big Jim P]

Ja, but not all of the recent ones were that bad. Reagan and Clinton were good.

I wouldn't put Reagan anywhere near Clinton, but that might be because I have a lower opinion of Mr invade, deficit spend, and sell weapons to terrorists.

Indeed, Reagan was much better than Clinton, The ass end of the list has two Bushes an Obama and a Carter all vying for bottom rung.

[Sociobiology]

I wouldn't put Reagan anywhere near Clinton, but that might be because I have a lower opinion of Mr invade, deficit spend, and sell weapons to terrorists.

Indeed, Reagan was much better than Clinton,

I was talking about Reagan

to my knowledge Clinton never sold weapons to terrorists, well unless you count Israel but they have all done that.

The ass end of the list has two Bushes an Obama and a Carter all vying for bottom rung.

oh I'd put baby bush on the bottom with no problem, so far the only one to get us into a war by outright lying (and exploiting a real tragedy no less!), which quite frankly to me is so unforgivable I'd still knock his teeth in if I met him. Wasting soldiers lives is bad enough, but doing it through deceit for selfish gain is beyond heinous. Fucking over the economy is just icing on the cake.

[Gun Manufacturers]

Indeed, Reagan was much better than Clinton,

I was talking about Reagan

to my knowledge Clinton never sold weapons to terrorists, well unless you count Israel but they have all done that.

The ass end of the list has two Bushes an Obama and a Carter all vying for bottom rung.

oh I'd put baby bush on the bottom with no problem, so far the only one to get us into a war by outright lying (and exploiting a real tragedy no less!), which quite frankly to me is so unforgivable I'd still knock his teeth in if I met him. Wasting soldiers lives is bad enough, but doing it through deceit for selfish gain is beyond heinous. Fucking over the economy is just icing on the cake.

All politicians lie and exploit tragedies.

[Imperializt Russia]

I was talking about Reagan

to my knowledge Clinton never sold weapons to terrorists, well unless you count Israel but they have all done that.


oh I'd put baby bush on the bottom with no problem, so far the only one to get us into a war by outright lying (and exploiting a real tragedy no less!), which quite frankly to me is so unforgivable I'd still knock his teeth in if I met him. Wasting soldiers lives is bad enough, but doing it through deceit for selfish gain is beyond heinous. Fucking over the economy is just icing on the cake.

All politicians lie and exploit tragedies.

I think we can safely consider Dubya's to be especially and exceptionally inflammatory.

[Chernoslavia]

http://freebeacon.com/issues/mayors-aga ... h-bribery/

Fucking hilarious, this is too good.

[Gaiserin]

i would get rid of a revolver in that condition (unless it was a very rare historical item). It is extremely dangerous.

Actually, it does look old enough to have served as Robert Lee's sidearm.
Nah, it'be be too much of a job. I don't think there are any bullets for it either(which begs to question as why it is in the closet to begin with.)

The Kassnar sure is light though.

[Chernoslavia]

http://articles.courant.com/2010-09-15/ ... erto-perez

Another trouble maker part of MAIG.

[Chernoslavia]

I'm being serious. There's never any open carry demonstrations or anything here. Even our shooting club has kinda been slacking off on get-togethers lately... I see open carry every time I'm in the grocery store. Everyone's got a rifle in their truck almost year round. Guns are the norm here. Even the local cops would just "hey man what's that, that's cool". It's a nice place as long as you stay away from the small town gossip traps.

Don't be the same kind of dumbass retard that open-carries an "assault weapon" for no purpose other than "because" and "it's my right! AM I BEING DETAINED?! AM I FREE TO GO?!

All those people do is make things worse. Your pro-gun community would likely immediately enact a no open-carry ordinance just so future morons won't be walking around public with ARs and AKs for no reason other than to stroke their own egos and play mall ninja spec ops delta force.

Thats why I don't open carry unless its necessary. I support open carry in general, but I don't wanna scare the neighbors.

[Big Jim P]

Don't be the same kind of dumbass retard that open-carries an "assault weapon" for no purpose other than "because" and "it's my right! AM I BEING DETAINED?! AM I FREE TO GO?!

All those people do is make things worse. Your pro-gun community would likely immediately enact a no open-carry ordinance just so future morons won't be walking around public with ARs and AKs for no reason other than to stroke their own egos and play mall ninja spec ops delta force.

Thats why I don't open carry unless its necessary. I support open carry in general, but I don't wanna scare the neighbors.

At least as far as the Texas open carriers goals are concerned (getting the open carry of handguns legalized), I support them. However, their methods cause as much alienation and bad will as good.

[Gun Manufacturers]

Don't be the same kind of dumbass retard that open-carries an "assault weapon" for no purpose other than "because" and "it's my right! AM I BEING DETAINED?! AM I FREE TO GO?!

All those people do is make things worse. Your pro-gun community would likely immediately enact a no open-carry ordinance just so future morons won't be walking around public with ARs and AKs for no reason other than to stroke their own egos and play mall ninja spec ops delta force.

Thats why I don't open carry unless its necessary. I support open carry in general, but I don't wanna scare the neighbors.

In CT, open carry is legal. Unfortunately, people here have been hassled by police, even arrested while they are open carrying (they're usually charged with disturbing the peace or other similar charge), due to frightened people that don't know the law.

[Big Jim P]

Thats why I don't open carry unless its necessary. I support open carry in general, but I don't wanna scare the neighbors.

In CT, open carry is legal. Unfortunately, people here have been hassled by police, even arrested while they are open carrying (they're usually charged with disturbing the peace or other similar charge), due to frightened people that don't know the law.

That is one thing I loved (and still miss) about Arizona: people open carrying and the cops not even batting an eye.

[WestRedMaple]

Thats why I don't open carry unless its necessary. I support open carry in general, but I don't wanna scare the neighbors.

In CT, open carry is legal. Unfortunately, people here have been hassled by police, even arrested while they are open carrying (they're usually charged with disturbing the peace or other similar charge), due to frightened people that don't know the law.

Which is why, though I always concealed carry when possible, I support as much open carry as possible. People need to see that it exists and isn't a problem.

Unfortunately, the police are held to a much lower standard than they should be. Arresting someone for not breaking the law is unlawful detention and a crime

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

Anyone try and say we need to get rid of guns yet?

[Gun Manufacturers]

Anyone try and say we need to get rid of guns yet?

A couple of people have, including a Canadian that thinks we need to scrap the 2nd Amendment without bothering to go through the amendment process.

[Big Jim P]

Anyone try and say we need to get rid of guns yet?

A couple of people have, including a Canadian that thinks we need to scrap the 2nd Amendment without bothering to go through the amendment process.

There's always a few nuts, and foreigners butting in where they have no business.

[Atlanticatia]

A couple of people have, including a Canadian that thinks we need to scrap the 2nd Amendment without bothering to go through the amendment process.

There's always a few nuts, and foreigners butting in where they have no business.

I'm American and I think we should definitely look at amending the constitution to invalidate the 2nd amendment, if it's seriously impacting our ability to legislate for public safety

[Gun Manufacturers]

There's always a few nuts, and foreigners butting in where they have no business.

I'm American and I think we should definitely look at amending the constitution to invalidate the 2nd amendment, if it's seriously impacting our ability to legislate for public safety

2/3 of Congress and 3/4 of the states would have to agree, but 44 states have the right to bear arms in their state constitutions. The support for such an amendment isn't there.

[Atlanticatia]

I'm American and I think we should definitely look at amending the constitution to invalidate the 2nd amendment, if it's seriously impacting our ability to legislate for public safety

2/3 of Congress and 3/4 of the states would have to agree, but 44 states have the right to bear arms in their state constitutions. The support for such an amendment isn't there.

I know. I doubt any such amendment would ever pass, but it's still my opinion that the 2nd amendment is antiquated and needs to be changed to better reflect modern intentions, threats, and laws.

[Gun Manufacturers]

2/3 of Congress and 3/4 of the states would have to agree, but 44 states have the right to bear arms in their state constitutions. The support for such an amendment isn't there.

I know. I doubt any such amendment would ever pass, but it's still my opinion that the 2nd amendment is antiquated and needs to be changed to better reflect modern intentions, threats, and laws.

Well, until it does, I'll continue to enjoy using my firearms at the range.

[Atlanticatia]

I know. I doubt any such amendment would ever pass, but it's still my opinion that the 2nd amendment is antiquated and needs to be changed to better reflect modern intentions, threats, and laws.

Well, until it does, I'll continue to enjoy using my firearms at the range.

Not having an amendment doesn't mean you wouldn't be able to.

[Gingeska]

The NY SAFE act is garbage, as with the rest of gun control.

This is the average response to registration:

http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/NY-SAFE-ACT-Gun-Registration-Form-Example.jpg

[Spirit of Hope]

There's always a few nuts, and foreigners butting in where they have no business.

I'm American and I think we should definitely look at amending the constitution to invalidate the 2nd amendment, if it's seriously impacting our ability to legislate for public safety

The requirement that Law enforcement officers get warrants to search houses or tap phones also seriously impacts their ability to protect public safety. I don't want to get rid of the 4th amendment.

The inability for a person to be tried for the same crime impacts the courts ability to protect public safety, as does the requirement for a speedy trial. Yet I don't want to get rid of the 5th or 6th amendments.

The Bill of Rights is a list of protections for the people against the government. Simply saying they cause a problem to public safety isn't a reason to get rid of one of them. Until such time as they prove a danger to the people as a group they shouldn't be infringed upon or removed.