Gun Control - A Political Thread

[Spreewerke]

And that makes sense. Chances are, this AR of mine would only be used for clearing a home (like I mentioned: building this if I have to supply my own rifle... or perhaps I'll build it, anyway), so length is a major concern here. A super-varminter AR would be pretty nice, though, especially out in Texas. I wonder if they make any in .220 Swift.

Not sure, but I think the Swift is too long for the action.

Looks like .243 Win. fits in an AR-10 pretty well.

[Askerike]

If money isn't the issue why not just get the sbr stamp? I flat out won't pay the sbr extortion fee. I'd build a pistol with a sig brace before I paid the fee.

I like 6.8 good ballistics and reloads with the same bullet as mymy tried and true .270 sendero. Super convenient. If you buy the expensive PRI mags you can slightly increase the OAL in specII chambers for better accuracy. Depending on manufacturer 6.8 can be found with with large or small primers which can be convenient too during a primer shortage you buy what you can get.

I stopped taking note of how much $$$ was in my 6.8... I couldn't even distinguish ffl discount prices vs full retail... if I have to meet a quota i'll buy what I need mark it up maybe 3%(+2.5% for credit card) and put it on gunbroker if it requires an ffl or ebay if they'll let it sell there. My only selling goal is to make just enough to pay for my renewal.

The way you tell if I like you or not is what I charger for transfers. Lol. Anywhere from free to 50... average $15-20.

[Spreewerke]

If money isn't the issue why not just get the sbr stamp? I flat out won't pay the sbr extortion fee. I'd build a pistol with a sig brace before I paid the fee.

I like 6.8 good ballistics and reloads with the same bullet as mymy tried and true .270 sendero. Super convenient. If you buy the expensive PRI mags you can slightly increase the OAL in specII chambers for better accuracy. Depending on manufacturer 6.8 can be found with with large or small primers which can be convenient too during a primer shortage you buy what you can get.

I stopped taking note of how much $$$ was in my 6.8... I couldn't even distinguish ffl discount prices vs full retail... if I have to meet a quota i'll buy what I need mark it up maybe 3%(+2.5% for credit card) and put it on gunbroker if it requires an ffl or ebay if they'll let it sell there. My only selling goal is to make just enough to pay for my renewal.

The way you tell if I like you or not is what I charger for transfers. Lol. Anywhere from free to 50... average $15-20.

Because a pinned 14.5" midlength will have very, very mild recoil without also putting a massive fireball in the face of my fellow blueshirt and blinding both of us. Same reason I've decided on the pinned 'A2 instead of keeping the standard BCM brake. An overall length of ~31.5-32.0" is still quite manageable for CQB.

[Askerike]

I'm not saying go shorter... I'm just saying if you had the stamp you might be better off if you needed or wanted to do some change ups. Not having to go through the hassle of having it professionally unpinned.

[Big Jim P]

Not sure, but I think the Swift is too long for the action.

Looks like .243 Win. fits in an AR-10 pretty well.

The AR10 should work with the swift. Not really my area of expertise. If I ever buy a Swift rifle, it will be a bolt action.

[Grinning Dragon]

So Ryan J. Reilly (huffington post justice reporter) thinks these are rubber bullets.
https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/ ... 52/photo/1

Just one more reason why reporters and such need to refrain from speaking on such matters in regards to weaponry.

[Occupied Deutschland]

So Ryan J. Reilly (huffington post justice reporter) thinks these are rubber bullets.
https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/ ... 52/photo/1

Just one more reason why reporters and such need to refrain from speaking on such matters in regards to weaponry.

That is incredibly stupid.

After all, it's common knowledge the Ferguson police are using ray-guns against the protestors, and they don't leave casings or spent bullets.

[Gun Manufacturers]

So Ryan J. Reilly (huffington post justice reporter) thinks these are rubber bullets.
https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/ ... 52/photo/1

Just one more reason why reporters and such need to refrain from speaking on such matters in regards to weaponry.

Really, I've read some pretty stupid things in regards to the gun control debate (ghost gun, shoulder thing that goes up, etc), but this is one is near the top of the list.

[Grinning Dragon]

So Ryan J. Reilly (huffington post justice reporter) thinks these are rubber bullets.
https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/ ... 52/photo/1

Just one more reason why reporters and such need to refrain from speaking on such matters in regards to weaponry.

That is incredibly stupid.

After all, it's common knowledge the Ferguson police are using ray-guns against the protestors, and they don't leave casings or spent bullets.

Cool that means my rail mounted light on my AR makes it a ray gun now *grins at the amount of money being saved in ammo costs*

How about a taser or maybe grenades

[Rostogovia]

I believe that citizens should be permitted to own firearms (With the exclusion of assault rifles and other military grade weapons.) upon completing a rigorous permit process, complete with background checks, safety classes, and mental health screenings. As a native New Yorker I believe that the provisions of the SAFE act to be perfectly reasonable, and in no way limit the capacity of gun owners to hunt or defend themselves.

[Grinning Dragon]

I believe that citizens should be permitted to own firearms (With the exclusion of assault rifles and other military grade weapons.) upon completing a rigorous permit process, complete with background checks, safety classes, and mental health screenings. As a native New Yorker I believe that the provisions of the SAFE act to be perfectly reasonable, and in no way limit the capacity of gun owners to hunt or defend themselves.

I believe citizens should be permitted to own books (with the exclusion of calculus and other scientific books) upon completing a rigorous permit process, complete with GPA and school attendance checks, enhanced reading and comprehension classes, mental health screenings.

I like how you use the word "permitted" The right enumerated in the 2nd Amendment is an inalienable right not a privilege.

[Paddy O Fernature]

I believe that citizens should be permitted to own firearms (With the exclusion of assault rifles and other military grade weapons.) upon completing a rigorous permit process, complete with background checks, safety classes, and mental health screenings. As a native New Yorker I believe that the provisions of the SAFE act to be perfectly reasonable, and in no way limit the capacity of gun owners to hunt or defend themselves.

In you're own words, whats the difference between an Assault Rifle and a "Military Grade" weapon?

[Grinning Dragon]

I believe that citizens should be permitted to own firearms (With the exclusion of assault rifles and other military grade weapons.) upon completing a rigorous permit process, complete with background checks, safety classes, and mental health screenings. As a native New Yorker I believe that the provisions of the SAFE act to be perfectly reasonable, and in no way limit the capacity of gun owners to hunt or defend themselves.

In you're own words, whats the difference between an Assault Rifle and a "Military Grade" weapon?

We both know it is a bullshit catch phrase and I get sick and tired of hearing "military grade" it is bullshit and they know it.

[Occupied Deutschland]

I believe that citizens should be permitted to own firearms (With the exclusion of assault rifles and other military grade weapons.) upon completing a rigorous permit process, complete with background checks, safety classes, and mental health screenings. As a native New Yorker I believe that the provisions of the SAFE act to be perfectly reasonable, and in no way limit the capacity of gun owners to hunt or defend themselves.

In you're own words, whats the difference between an Assault Rifle and a "Military Grade" weapon?

You know. Military grade weapons are those scary black people guns. Or those guns with the big scopes that can shoot far. Or those guns in those big scary calibers like .223 that can blow holes in elephant's heads and kill cops through concrete and bulletproof vests because they're specially designed cop-killer bullets. Or those ones with the scary military sounding names like 'Colt' or 'Remington'.

[Grinning Dragon]

So Ryan J. Reilly (huffington post justice reporter) thinks these are rubber bullets.
https://twitter.com/ryanjreilly/status/ ... 52/photo/1

Just one more reason why reporters and such need to refrain from speaking on such matters in regards to weaponry.

Really, I've read some pretty stupid things in regards to the gun control debate (ghost gun, shoulder thing that goes up, etc), but this is one is near the top of the list.

Yep, same here. It is idiots like Ryan that spreads misinformation such as this and being too lazy to do some fact checking before releasing his stupidity into the public sphere.

[Big Jim P]

Really, I've read some pretty stupid things in regards to the gun control debate (ghost gun, shoulder thing that goes up, etc), but this is one is near the top of the list.

Yep, same here. It is idiots like Ryan that spreads misinformation such as this and being too lazy to do some fact checking before releasing his stupidity into the public sphere.

People like this, and we are expected to respect the anti-gun position. How about NOT.

[Grinning Dragon]

Yep, same here. It is idiots like Ryan that spreads misinformation such as this and being too lazy to do some fact checking before releasing his stupidity into the public sphere.

People like this, and we are expected to respect the anti-gun position. How about NOT.

Not to mention that some of these idiotic ideas get passed as do nothing laws, like weapon bans.

[Big Jim P]

People like this, and we are expected to respect the anti-gun position. How about NOT.

Not to mention that some of these idiotic ideas get passed as do nothing laws, like weapon bans.

That is because our system has become a bunch of ignorant idiots electing even bigger ignorant idiots.

[Grinning Dragon]

Not to mention that some of these idiotic ideas get passed as do nothing laws, like weapon bans.

That is because our system has become a bunch of ignorant idiots electing even bigger ignorant idiots.

Agreed to a point, the other is this notion that safety is a right or some such.

[Big Jim P]

That is because our system has become a bunch of ignorant idiots electing even bigger ignorant idiots.

Agreed to a point, the other is this notion that safety is a right or some such.

Even if safety is a right, that supports the private ownership of guns for defense.

[Sociobiology]

Not to mention that some of these idiotic ideas get passed as do nothing laws, like weapon bans.

That is because our system has become a bunch of ignorant idiots electing even bigger ignorant idiots.

you say that like it has ever been any other way.

[Big Jim P]

That is because our system has become a bunch of ignorant idiots electing even bigger ignorant idiots.

you say that like it has ever been any other way.

Good point. It has always been that way, but the stupidity has gotten really bad over that last few decades.

[Tule]

I believe that citizens should be permitted to own firearms (With the exclusion of assault rifles and other military grade weapons.) upon completing a rigorous permit process, complete with background checks, safety classes, and mental health screenings. As a native New Yorker I believe that the provisions of the SAFE act to be perfectly reasonable, and in no way limit the capacity of gun owners to hunt or defend themselves.

Every firearm in common use by civilians has been military grade at some point. Including "Hunting sifles" or "Hunting shotguns".

What do you think WW2 soldiers used to kill millions with? Yup, humble bolt-action rifles.

The good old Pump-action shotgun is extremely powerful as well.

The Germans wanted them banned in WW1 because of their efficiency at close quarters.
One shotgun-wielding American soldier, Sergeant Fred Lloyd, captured a village from THIRTY German soldiers.

How does this firepower compare to Assault rifles? They have twice the hit probability at under 30 meters.

[Sociobiology]

you say that like it has ever been any other way.

Good point. It has always been that way, but the stupidity has gotten really bad over that last few decades.

two words, President Pierce.
credited with doing more to cause the civil war than any other single person AND so unpopular his own party would not support nomination for a second term. although he was brilliant at international politics, he just sucked at everything domestic.

then you have ones like John Tyler or Warren Harding.

the sad truth is the recent ones always look like the worst, because their always in your mind.

[Big Jim P]

Good point. It has always been that way, but the stupidity has gotten really bad over that last few decades.

two words, President Pierce.
credited with doing more to cause the civil war than any other single person AND so unpopular his own party would not support nomination for a second term. although he was brilliant at international politics, he just sucked at everything domestic.

then you have ones like John Tyler or Warren Harding.

the sad truth is the recent ones always look like the worst, because their always in your mind.

Ja, but not all of the recent ones were that bad. Reagan and Clinton were good.