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Are bills such as the New York SAFE Act effective at stopping gun crime?

The measures are effective.
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I'm not sure.
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The measures are not effective.
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:09 pm

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Pope Joan wrote:I certainly don't want the police to be the only ones with guns. Just look at their actions in Ferguson, Mo.

Even my conservative friends are saying the police are out of control.


Notice how the businesses that were defended by armed citizens were not looted. ;)

Do you know which business owners owned guns and which did not?
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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:11 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Notice how the businesses that were defended by armed citizens were not looted. ;)

Do you know which business owners owned guns and which did not?



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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:11 pm

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Geilinor wrote:Do you know which business owners owned guns and which did not?



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thanks for backing me up.
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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:15 pm

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Spreewerke wrote:

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thanks for backing me up.



It's like the customer we had that seemed shocked I open-carried at work. "Do you really think someone is going to rob a meat shop?" "No. Not when I have a gun." :lol2:

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Postby Big Jim P » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:36 pm

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thanks for backing me up.



It's like the customer we had that seemed shocked I open-carried at work. "Do you really think someone is going to rob a meat shop?" "No. Not when I have a gun." :lol2:


Indeed. Criminals tend to avoid armed victims.
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Postby Askerike » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:50 pm

I never get occasion to dress up in my tacticool gear with my buddies and sport my ars in public. People here probably wouldn't even care in this small ass Mississippi town.

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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Aug 15, 2014 3:58 pm

Askerike wrote:I never get occasion to dress up in my tacticool gear with my buddies and sport my ars in public. People here probably wouldn't even care in this small ass Mississippi town.


Don't be that kind of person.

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Postby Greater Beggnig » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:03 pm

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Except that isn't all that gun control is. Gun control can encompasse many things including banning certain types of guns for little more than the fact they "look mean and scary" ie the assualt weapons ban.

I believe what youre referring to would more accurately be called "reasonable" or "common sense" gun control. ;)


I feel like gun control is a rather vague word. By definition it's government regulation when it comes to firearms. So, there are a lot of people, including myself, who believe that there should be background checks, a waiting period, more regulation on guns like assault weapons(not a ban) etc. So, I guess I advoate common sense gun control.


So do I. In Australia, we had one shooting like Sandy Hook, and just decided that guns were evil, and now you need to be a hunter or sport-player to get something as measly as a lever-action or break-action. That's a little too far for me, but at the same time, I think that reintroduction of those types of weapons might cause big problems, as we Aussies have a history of sticking it to the law.
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Postby Askerike » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:10 pm

I'm being serious. There's never any open carry demonstrations or anything here. Even our shooting club has kinda been slacking off on get-togethers lately... I see open carry every time I'm in the grocery store. Everyone's got a rifle in their truck almost year round. Guns are the norm here. Even the local cops would just "hey man what's that, that's cool". It's a nice place as long as you stay away from the small town gossip traps.

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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:44 pm

Askerike wrote:I'm being serious. There's never any open carry demonstrations or anything here. Even our shooting club has kinda been slacking off on get-togethers lately... I see open carry every time I'm in the grocery store. Everyone's got a rifle in their truck almost year round. Guns are the norm here. Even the local cops would just "hey man what's that, that's cool". It's a nice place as long as you stay away from the small town gossip traps.



Don't be the same kind of dumbass retard that open-carries an "assault weapon" for no purpose other than "because" and "it's my right! AM I BEING DETAINED?! AM I FREE TO GO?!

All those people do is make things worse. Your pro-gun community would likely immediately enact a no open-carry ordinance just so future morons won't be walking around public with ARs and AKs for no reason other than to stroke their own egos and play mall ninja spec ops delta force.

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:46 pm

Askerike wrote:I'm being serious. There's never any open carry demonstrations or anything here. Even our shooting club has kinda been slacking off on get-togethers lately... I see open carry every time I'm in the grocery store. Everyone's got a rifle in their truck almost year round. Guns are the norm here. Even the local cops would just "hey man what's that, that's cool". It's a nice place as long as you stay away from the small town gossip traps.


As someone who does open carry true Assault Rifles around on an almost daily basis in the public, I have to back Spree up here and say don't be that guy. Around my parts, you would be picked up and held for questioning as LEO would think you were part of one of the many local "constitutional" militias we have running around here.
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Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:49 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Askerike wrote:I'm being serious. There's never any open carry demonstrations or anything here. Even our shooting club has kinda been slacking off on get-togethers lately... I see open carry every time I'm in the grocery store. Everyone's got a rifle in their truck almost year round. Guns are the norm here. Even the local cops would just "hey man what's that, that's cool". It's a nice place as long as you stay away from the small town gossip traps.


As someone who does open carry true Assault Rifles around on an almost daily basis in the public, I have to back Spree up here and say don't be that guy. Around my parts, you would be picked up and held for questioning as LEO would think you were part of one of the many local "constitutional" militias we have running around here.

So why do you open carry? Are you in one of those crazy militias?

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:50 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
As someone who does open carry true Assault Rifles around on an almost daily basis in the public, I have to back Spree up here and say don't be that guy. Around my parts, you would be picked up and held for questioning as LEO would think you were part of one of the many local "constitutional" militias we have running around here.

So why do you open carry? Are you in one of those crazy militias?

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Yes actually. One paid for by the Federal Government.

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Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:51 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:So why do you open carry? Are you in one of those crazy militias?

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Yes actually. One paid for by the Federal Government.

Pew pew pew.

If you don't mind what is it that you do? I'm guessing LEO but I'm curious.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:54 pm

Spirit of Hope wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Yes actually. One paid for by the Federal Government.

Pew pew pew.

If you don't mind what is it that you do? I'm guessing LEO but I'm curious.


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Was a Cav Scout for 6 years, now I sit on my duff in a unmarked vehicle guarding another unmarked vehicle which moves dangerous things from point A to B. I know that's vague, but it is what it is for various reasons.
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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:55 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Spirit of Hope wrote:So why do you open carry? Are you in one of those crazy militias?

Don't shoot me


Yes actually. One paid for by the Federal Government.

Pew pew pew.



Does your government-issued pew-machine look similar to this?

http://i.imgur.com/Qjpl0uI.jpg

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:58 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Yes actually. One paid for by the Federal Government.

Pew pew pew.



Does your government-issued pew-machine look similar to this?

http://i.imgur.com/Qjpl0uI.jpg


Add a assault grip,AN/PEQ-2, and you have a winner.

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Postby Spreewerke » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:59 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

Does your government-issued pew-machine look similar to this?

http://i.imgur.com/Qjpl0uI.jpg


Add a assault grip,AN/PEQ-2, and you have a winner.



How close are we to the gunporn section of the thread now?

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Fri Aug 15, 2014 4:59 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

Does your government-issued pew-machine look similar to this?

http://i.imgur.com/Qjpl0uI.jpg


Add a assault grip,AN/PEQ-2, and you have a winner.

Sounds a bit bulky to bugger about the inside of a car with, I've got to say.
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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:01 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Add a assault grip,AN/PEQ-2, and you have a winner.

Sounds a bit bulky to bugger about the inside of a car with, I've got to say.


Considering I'm used to monkeying around inside a BFV or a Stryker over the a couple of tours in Iraq, I can't complain.

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:02 pm

Spreewerke wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Add a assault grip,AN/PEQ-2, and you have a winner.



How close are we to the gunporn section of the thread now?


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Postby Askerike » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:06 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Askerike wrote:I'm being serious. There's never any open carry demonstrations or anything here. Even our shooting club has kinda been slacking off on get-togethers lately... I see open carry every time I'm in the grocery store. Everyone's got a rifle in their truck almost year round. Guns are the norm here. Even the local cops would just "hey man what's that, that's cool". It's a nice place as long as you stay away from the small town gossip traps.


As someone who does open carry true Assault Rifles around on an almost daily basis in the public, I have to back Spree up here and say don't be that guy. Around my parts, you would be picked up and held for questioning as LEO would think you were part of one of the many local "constitutional" militias we have running around here.


I'm sorry that you live in an oppressive place with poorly trained police officers and/or restrictive gun laws?

Below is my "crown jewel" of my personal non inventory collection.

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With your every day carrying expertise, what caliber would you say it is chambered for?

PS. No such thing as an assault rifle. Made up term for scaremongering....

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Postby Spirit of Hope » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:08 pm


I want 1 from each picture please! How much will that cost me?
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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Fri Aug 15, 2014 5:09 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Spreewerke wrote:

How close are we to the gunporn section of the thread now?


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You showed us yours, so I guess it's time to show mine.

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