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Who was the greatest recent prime minister of britain?

David Cameron (Conservative)
5
3%
Gordon Brown (Labour)
5
3%
Tony Blair (Labour)
15
10%
John Major (Conservative)
1
1%
Margaret Thatcher (Conservative)
76
52%
James Callaghan (Labour)
1
1%
Harold Wilson (Labour)
37
26%
Edward Heath (Conservative)
1
1%
Alec Douglas-Holme (Conservative)
1
1%
Harold MacMillan (Conservative)
3
2%
 
Total votes : 145

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Postby Avaerilon » Sat May 03, 2014 11:00 am

Of those in the poll, Wilson, but my favourite of the last century is definitely Campbell-Bannerman.
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Postby Olivaero » Sat May 03, 2014 11:01 am

Alyakia wrote:
United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:As much as I admire Clemeny Attlee, poll restrictions mean I chose to only include the last 10 Prime ministers.



Nigel Farage is not a Prime Minister, and (thank goodness) never will be.


so what you're saying is that instead of sacrificing one or two people most of the forum honestly probably haven't even heard of you decided it was better to cut out atlee and churchill because maybe just maybe there is someone out there that thinks alec douglas-holme was the hottest shit to ever walk these isles?

Now be fair now I'm sure out there some where is some HoL enthusiast who has a massive hard on over the last member of said house to be PM.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat May 03, 2014 11:02 am

Attlee, Macmillan, or Wilson. The rest are "meh" or shit.
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Postby Sabara » Sat May 03, 2014 11:03 am

Thatcher, of course.
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Postby Alyakia » Sat May 03, 2014 11:07 am

Pandect wrote:
Divair2 wrote:Iraq. That's all I have to say about Blair.


I didn't vote for Tony Blair, and I didn't like his policies; but whether you agree with going to war in Iraq or not, he stood up for what he believed in. In the face of criticism and potentially losing his party the government, he committed himself to doing what he felt was right. You have to admire the guy for that.


why should we? pol pot thought he was right. stalin thought he was right. hitler thought he was right. he stood up for what he believed in in the face of criticism from the entire world. it's an utterly meaningless statement. why should we care if someone starts a war or two and starts piling up the bodies but trust me i bet the thought it was a good idea at the time?

it probably takes a stronger man to admit that maybe the critics are right instead of proceeding onto war for the sake of your own ego, if you're into that kind of thing.

(p.s. half of the people on this poll were involved with supporting and arming dictators up to and including saddam hussein and yes the khmer rouge, so please don't give me a "but they're not pol pot!" response. people like to do that a lot so i thought i'd try and save us a long exchange of internet posts by getting it out of the way now.)

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Alyakia wrote:so what you're saying is that instead of sacrificing one or two people most of the forum honestly probably haven't even heard of you decided it was better to cut out atlee and churchill because maybe just maybe there is someone out there that thinks alec douglas-holme was the hottest shit to ever walk these isles?


I note that you are free to start your own poll on these forums...
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Alyakia wrote:so what you're saying is that instead of sacrificing one or two people most of the forum honestly probably haven't even heard of you decided it was better to cut out atlee and churchill because maybe just maybe there is someone out there that thinks alec douglas-holme was the hottest shit to ever walk these isles?


I note that you are free to start your own poll on these forums...


actually if i started a poll like that right now it would get locked for being a "copycat" of this one regardless of whether it was a better poll. swing. miss. not that what you said was actually even vaguely relevant to what i said or in any way addresses it, but for the record.
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Postby Llamalandia » Sat May 03, 2014 11:14 am

Meh churchill>> attlee anyway, but I think the point is that poll was meant to be limited to only the ten most modern pm's.

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Postby Voltrovia » Sat May 03, 2014 11:55 am

Avaerilon wrote:Of those in the poll, Wilson, but my favourite of the last century is definitely Campbell-Bannerman.


He didn't do much...his ministry collapsed after a short time office at any rate.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat May 03, 2014 12:03 pm

Voltrovia wrote:
Avaerilon wrote:Of those in the poll, Wilson, but my favourite of the last century is definitely Campbell-Bannerman.


He didn't do much...his ministry collapsed after a short time office at any rate.

Who? Wilson or Campbell-Bannerman?
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Postby Greater Mackonia » Sat May 03, 2014 12:05 pm

I think if you could include Alec Douglus-Home of all people you could include Atlee.

Harold Wilson is the least irritable of those on the poll, Anthony Eden could have been good.
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Postby Port Morgan and the Rum Runner Isles » Sat May 03, 2014 12:06 pm

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Postby Britannic Realms » Sat May 03, 2014 12:27 pm

Avaerilon wrote:Of those in the poll, Wilson, but my favourite of the last century is definitely Campbell-Bannerman.


What? Why?

Greater Mackonia wrote:I think if you could include Alec Douglus-Home of all people you could include Atlee.

Harold Wilson is the least irritable of those on the poll, Anthony Eden could have been good.


You mean the drug-riddled Anthony Eden?

Llamalandia wrote:Meh churchill>> attlee anyway, but I think the point is that poll was meant to be limited to only the ten most modern pm's.


Oh? Churchill was good as a wartime leader but Attlee's policies have helped tens of millions of people.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat May 03, 2014 12:46 pm

Britannic Realms wrote:
Avaerilon wrote:Of those in the poll, Wilson, but my favourite of the last century is definitely Campbell-Bannerman.


What? Why?

Greater Mackonia wrote:I think if you could include Alec Douglus-Home of all people you could include Atlee.

Harold Wilson is the least irritable of those on the poll, Anthony Eden could have been good.


You mean the drug-riddled Anthony Eden?

Llamalandia wrote:Meh churchill>> attlee anyway, but I think the point is that poll was meant to be limited to only the ten most modern pm's.


Oh? Churchill was good as a wartime leader but Attlee's policies have helped tens of millions of people.

I didn't know Eden was a drug addict, but I see now. Not really his fault though, doctors thought it was harmless.
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Postby Greater Mackonia » Sat May 03, 2014 12:47 pm

Britannic Realms wrote:
Avaerilon wrote:Of those in the poll, Wilson, but my favourite of the last century is definitely Campbell-Bannerman.


What? Why?

Greater Mackonia wrote:I think if you could include Alec Douglus-Home of all people you could include Atlee.

Harold Wilson is the least irritable of those on the poll, Anthony Eden could have been good.


You mean the drug-riddled Anthony Eden?

Llamalandia wrote:Meh churchill>> attlee anyway, but I think the point is that poll was meant to be limited to only the ten most modern pm's.


Oh? Churchill was good as a wartime leader but Attlee's policies have helped tens of millions of people.


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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sat May 03, 2014 12:50 pm

Sorry, socialism fans, I'm throwing in my vote for Maggie.

As much as I disagree with many of her policies, someone had to stand up to the unions to prevent their radicalism continuing to hold Britain's prosperity and economic efficiency to ransom.
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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Sat May 03, 2014 12:52 pm

United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:
Empire of Vlissingen wrote:Which I support.


Ok, so UKIP would appeal to you. It also appears to appeal to many as a sort of protest vote. But the problen with UKIP is that they have no policies outside leaving the European Union. Until they enlighten us as to what they stand for, I don't see them as an eligible party to vote for in any election.


In truth, i lean slightly towards UKIP.

I don't want immigration cut completely, i just want immigrants to actually be vetted. This'll see if they're educated well and able to get a job to pay taxes here.

*In short, i want checks on who we let in. I'd have no issues with letting in 100 Muslims or anyone else if those 100 worked hard or failing to find a job in the economy, keeping out of crime.

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Postby Geilinor » Sat May 03, 2014 12:53 pm

The Emerald Dragon wrote:
United commonwealth of ayrshire wrote:
Ok, so UKIP would appeal to you. It also appears to appeal to many as a sort of protest vote. But the problen with UKIP is that they have no policies outside leaving the European Union. Until they enlighten us as to what they stand for, I don't see them as an eligible party to vote for in any election.


In truth, i lean slightly towards UKIP.

I don't want immigration cut completely, i just want immigrants to actually be vetted. This'll see if they're educated well and able to get a job to pay taxes here.

*In short, i want checks on who we let in. I'd have no issues with letting in 100 Muslims or anyone else if those 100 worked hard or failing to find a job in the economy, keeping out of crime.

There are checks, but not on people from the EU because that's part of the terms of membership. You have to sacrifice some things in order to get the benefits of membership.
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Postby Alyakia » Sat May 03, 2014 1:29 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:Sorry, socialism fans, I'm throwing in my vote for Maggie.

As much as I disagree with many of her policies, someone had to stand up to the unions to prevent their radicalism continuing to hold Britain's prosperity and economic efficiency to ransom.


how does it feel to know you'll probably never be able to afford a house?
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Postby United Kingdom of Kent » Sat May 03, 2014 1:32 pm

Alyakia wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Sorry, socialism fans, I'm throwing in my vote for Maggie.

As much as I disagree with many of her policies, someone had to stand up to the unions to prevent their radicalism continuing to hold Britain's prosperity and economic efficiency to ransom.


how does it feel to know you'll probably never be able to afford a house?


How does it feel being knowing you can buy your council house if you had one and wanted to? How does it feel knowing the lights are not going to go out and that another winter of dicontent seems a world away?
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Postby Alyakia » Sat May 03, 2014 1:36 pm

United Kingdom of Kent wrote:
Alyakia wrote:
how does it feel to know you'll probably never be able to afford a house?


How does it feel being knowing you can buy your council house if you had one and wanted to? How does it feel the lights not going out and that another winter of dicontent seems a world away?


depends, how does it feel to know that 1/3 of ex-council properties are now in the hands of private landlords with the family of the guy who thought up right-to-buy now owning at least 40? if you can get a council house, that is.

how does it feel to freeze to death as the energy prices continue to rise? surely competition wil- oh they're all doing it at the same time.
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Postby Priory Academy USSR » Sat May 03, 2014 1:44 pm

United Kingdom of Kent wrote:
Alyakia wrote:
how does it feel to know you'll probably never be able to afford a house?


How does it feel being knowing you can buy your council house if you had one and wanted to? How does it feel knowing the lights are not going to go out and that another winter of dicontent seems a world away?


You know that you can have a strict monetarist policy and a strong social housing programme simultaneously, right?
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Postby United Kingdom of Kent » Sat May 03, 2014 1:45 pm

Alyakia wrote:
United Kingdom of Kent wrote:
How does it feel being knowing you can buy your council house if you had one and wanted to? How does it feel the lights not going out and that another winter of dicontent seems a world away?


depends, how does it feel to know that 1/3 of ex-council properties are now in the hands of private landlords with the family of the guy who thought up right-to-buy now owning at least 40? if you can get a council house, that is.

how does it feel to freeze to death as the energy prices continue to rise? surely competition wil- oh they're all doing it at the same time.


Ow dear somebody saw a potential market and seized the oppurtunity granted to him I do wish people would stop doing that, and now people have to work and pay for homes instead of having them handed out what is this world coming to I do say.

My golly I say that is truly a concern to many, but still the same people often saying that say no to fracking a sure way that prices will go down, and thank god we have a privatised gas and energy system or think of all that potential sector for the economy destroyed.
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Postby United Kingdom of Kent » Sat May 03, 2014 1:46 pm

Priory Academy USSR wrote:
United Kingdom of Kent wrote:
How does it feel being knowing you can buy your council house if you had one and wanted to? How does it feel knowing the lights are not going to go out and that another winter of dicontent seems a world away?


You know that you can have a strict monetarist policy and a strong social housing programme simultaneously, right?


Yes which is why I identified it as a postive for Thatcher whom helped passed the Right to Buy scheme.
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