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Should Clarkson get the sack?

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Postby Britcan » Mon May 05, 2014 7:19 am

The UK in Exile wrote:
Britcan wrote:Hilarious.


No really, its sweet. The way you've leapt to his defence. Very gallant.

Is this what you do every time someone points out an error in a statement you make?

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Postby The UK in Exile » Mon May 05, 2014 7:22 am

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The UK in Exile wrote:
No really, its sweet. The way you've leapt to his defence. Very gallant.

Is this what you do every time someone points out an error in a statement you make?


There was no error. I said he called for people to be shot. He did. Your opinion is clearly that his conduct was defensible. Which is fair enough, I was aware of the context and still think it was contemptible. But like I said, If you want to defend a nasty comment by a run of the mill public school bully, that's actually quite sweet. I'm sure he'd appreciate it.
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Postby Britcan » Mon May 05, 2014 7:25 am

The UK in Exile wrote:
Britcan wrote:Is this what you do every time someone points out an error in a statement you make?


There was no error. I said he called for people to be shot. He did. Your opinion is clearly that his conduct was defensible. Which is fair enough, I was aware of the context and still think it was contemptible. But like I said, If you want to defend a nasty comment by a run of the mill public school bully, that's actually quite sweet. I'm sure he'd appreciate it.

If you think that joke is contemptible the issue is you being far too sensitive.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon May 05, 2014 7:28 am

The UK in Exile wrote:
Britcan wrote:Right. The thing about that was the quote was taken out of context as he seemed to be joking at the time.

He initially said that the strikes had been 'fantastic' as it made London almost completely empty. He then said 'we have to balance it though because this is the BBC' and then he said that he would 'have them all shot' in front of their families. He then said that they were not actually his views.

There are many valid criticisms of Clarkson, but I don't think that comment is one of them.


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Postby Videssos » Mon May 05, 2014 7:30 am

The UK in Exile wrote:
Britcan wrote:Is this what you do every time someone points out an error in a statement you make?


There was no error. I said he called for people to be shot. He did. Your opinion is clearly that his conduct was defensible. Which is fair enough, I was aware of the context and still think it was contemptible. But like I said, If you want to defend a nasty comment by a run of the mill public school bully, that's actually quite sweet. I'm sure he'd appreciate it.


Seems you lack any notion of the meaning of the word sarcasm. You should probably look it up in a dictionary.
Not that it'd help much.

Then again, this is NSG, so I'm not too surprised that someone's going to dive into the tactic of using flawed logic, a massively inflated opinion of oneself, and insults to put their opinion across on various topics. And then act like people who oppose their point of view are idiots.
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Postby Kelinfort » Mon May 05, 2014 7:31 am

Like his commentary on vehicles, otherwise I couldn't care less about what else he says. Obviously, he has said controversial things in the past. He's conservative, that's for sure. Still, while what he said is obviously racist...it's not really sack worthy.

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Postby Wilkshire » Mon May 05, 2014 7:39 am

This vile man should have been given the boot ages ago.

But even if he does he no doubt will have a job on Sky TV doing the same thing on an even bigger salary.

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Postby The UK in Exile » Mon May 05, 2014 7:43 am

Britcan wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
There was no error. I said he called for people to be shot. He did. Your opinion is clearly that his conduct was defensible. Which is fair enough, I was aware of the context and still think it was contemptible. But like I said, If you want to defend a nasty comment by a run of the mill public school bully, that's actually quite sweet. I'm sure he'd appreciate it.

If you think that joke is contemptible the issue is you being far too sensitive.


Calm down, not like I'm suggesting he be shot for it or anything.

Just fired. it's humor. Apparently.

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The UK in Exile wrote:
There was no error. I said he called for people to be shot. He did. Your opinion is clearly that his conduct was defensible. Which is fair enough, I was aware of the context and still think it was contemptible. But like I said, If you want to defend a nasty comment by a run of the mill public school bully, that's actually quite sweet. I'm sure he'd appreciate it.


Seems you lack any notion of the meaning of the word sarcasm. You should probably look it up in a dictionary.
Not that it'd help much.

Then again, this is NSG, so I'm not too surprised that someone's going to dive into the tactic of using flawed logic, a massively inflated opinion of oneself, and insults to put their opinion across on various topics. And then act like people who oppose their point of view are idiots.


I know, I should probably have my own TV show.
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Postby Speed and Power » Mon May 05, 2014 8:40 am

As I, Jeremy Clarkson, has announced in a video I put out some days ago, I tried to hide the word in the "eenie-meenie-minie-moe" saying, but in my attempt at gibberish, I still managed to make a noise that is similar to the n-word in one of the three takes, which I realised after I reviewed the scene. I did not want to say the word, for I loathe that word. And why does it matter so much? It wasn't aired and it should've been scrapped. I still apologize for murmuring the word, and I ask for strong forgiveness.

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Postby Starvation Is Fun » Mon May 05, 2014 8:53 am

"[Clarkson] shouldn't be sacked. I tell you who should be sacked, and that's the person who released the clip to the Daily Mirror in order to give the whole thing a wider circulation than it deserved." pretty much sums up my thoughts on this.
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Mon May 05, 2014 8:54 am

Speed and Power wrote:As I, Jeremy Clarkson, has announced in a video I put out some days ago, I tried to hide the word in the "eenie-meenie-minie-moe" saying, but in my attempt at gibberish, I still managed to make a noise that is similar to the n-word in one of the three takes, which I realised after I reviewed the scene. I did not want to say the word, for I loathe that word. And why does it matter so much? It wasn't aired and it should've been scrapped. I still apologize for murmuring the word, and I ask for strong forgiveness.


Can you prove that you're indeed Jeremy?

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Postby Starvation Is Fun » Mon May 05, 2014 8:57 am

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Speed and Power wrote:As I, Jeremy Clarkson, has announced in a video I put out some days ago, I tried to hide the word in the "eenie-meenie-minie-moe" saying, but in my attempt at gibberish, I still managed to make a noise that is similar to the n-word in one of the three takes, which I realised after I reviewed the scene. I did not want to say the word, for I loathe that word. And why does it matter so much? It wasn't aired and it should've been scrapped. I still apologize for murmuring the word, and I ask for strong forgiveness.


Can you prove that you're indeed Jeremy?

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Postby Britanno » Mon May 05, 2014 9:00 am

I agree with many here. Clarkson said the word, yes, but he regretted it and had no intention for anyone to hear it or to take offence. He stopped the clip being released as soon as he realised that you could hear it, and immediately apologised once it was made available to the public.

Obviously someone in the BBC wanted to make a little money at Clarkson's expense, and the Mirror wanted to make a lot of money at Clarkson's expense. Both should be ashamed.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Mon May 05, 2014 9:05 am

Britanno wrote:I agree with many here. Clarkson said the word, yes, but he regretted it and had no intention for anyone to hear it or to take offence. He stopped the clip being released as soon as he realised that you could hear it, and immediately apologised once it was made available to the public.

Obviously someone in the BBC wanted to make a little money at Clarkson's expense, and the Mirror wanted to make a lot of money at Clarkson's expense. Both should be ashamed.


Obviously, if Jeremy Clarkson wanted to make a lot of money at someone else's expense, that'd be different.
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Postby Starvation Is Fun » Mon May 05, 2014 9:09 am

The UK in Exile wrote:
Britanno wrote:I agree with many here. Clarkson said the word, yes, but he regretted it and had no intention for anyone to hear it or to take offence. He stopped the clip being released as soon as he realised that you could hear it, and immediately apologised once it was made available to the public.

Obviously someone in the BBC wanted to make a little money at Clarkson's expense, and the Mirror wanted to make a lot of money at Clarkson's expense. Both should be ashamed.


Obviously, if Jeremy Clarkson wanted to make a lot of money at someone else's expense, that'd be different.

If Clarkson did something shitty and underhanded the only thing that would be different is that we'd know the name of the person we ought to get mad at over releasing whatever document got someone in trouble.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Mon May 05, 2014 9:12 am

The UK in Exile wrote:
Britcan wrote:Is this what you do every time someone points out an error in a statement you make?


There was no error. I said he called for people to be shot. He did. Your opinion is clearly that his conduct was defensible. Which is fair enough, I was aware of the context and still think it was contemptible. But like I said, If you want to defend a nasty comment by a run of the mill public school bully, that's actually quite sweet. I'm sure he'd appreciate it.


You really are a complete jerk.

Not that I'm against that or anything, just thought it might be helpful for you to know.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Mon May 05, 2014 9:14 am

Starvation Is Fun wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
Obviously, if Jeremy Clarkson wanted to make a lot of money at someone else's expense, that'd be different.

If Clarkson did something shitty and underhanded the only thing that would be different is that we'd know the name of the person we ought to get mad at over releasing whatever document got someone in trouble.


If there is nothing wrong with what he said, then no harm could have been intended by releasing it. conversely if you allegeding malicious intent on the part of those who released it, you must accept that the behaviour it displays was clearly unacceptable. At which point, Jeremy bears a measure of responsibility for allowing himself to be recorded saying it.

Unless of course, your suggesting that Jeremy Clarkson was unaware that the use of the word was considered unacceptable?

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The UK in Exile wrote:
There was no error. I said he called for people to be shot. He did. Your opinion is clearly that his conduct was defensible. Which is fair enough, I was aware of the context and still think it was contemptible. But like I said, If you want to defend a nasty comment by a run of the mill public school bully, that's actually quite sweet. I'm sure he'd appreciate it.


You really are a complete jerk.

Not that I'm against that or anything, just thought it might be helpful for you to know.


I'm aware, like I said, I'm pitching for my own BBC show. Top Tears.
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Postby Glasgia » Mon May 05, 2014 11:30 am

Videssos wrote:Then again, this is NSG, so I'm not too surprised that someone's going to dive into the tactic of using flawed logic, a massively inflated opinion of oneself, and insults to put their opinion across on various topics. And then act like people who oppose their point of view are idiots.


Yeah, that does sound like Clarkson... Oh, right, you're talking about UK in Exile...

The UK in Exile wrote:
Starvation Is Fun wrote:If Clarkson did something shitty and underhanded the only thing that would be different is that we'd know the name of the person we ought to get mad at over releasing whatever document got someone in trouble.


If there is nothing wrong with what he said, then no harm could have been intended by releasing it. conversely if you allegeding malicious intent on the part of those who released it, you must accept that the behaviour it displays was clearly unacceptable. At which point, Jeremy bears a measure of responsibility for allowing himself to be recorded saying it.

Unless of course, your suggesting that Jeremy Clarkson was unaware that the use of the word was considered unacceptable?


Clarkson knew that the word was unacceptable. That's why he mumbled it twice, eventually decided that even such measures weren't good enough anyway and recorded a third version while doing his best to ensure it wasn't broadcast. Very simple.
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Postby Indira » Mon May 05, 2014 12:29 pm

He might be an idiot, but this is just petty and stupid.

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Postby Ceannairceach » Mon May 05, 2014 1:02 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:
Starvation Is Fun wrote:If Clarkson did something shitty and underhanded the only thing that would be different is that we'd know the name of the person we ought to get mad at over releasing whatever document got someone in trouble.


If there is nothing wrong with what he said, then no harm could have been intended by releasing it. conversely if you allegeding malicious intent on the part of those who released it, you must accept that the behaviour it displays was clearly unacceptable. At which point, Jeremy bears a measure of responsibility for allowing himself to be recorded saying it.

Unless of course, your suggesting that Jeremy Clarkson was unaware that the use of the word was considered unacceptable?\

Based on his version of the story, he understood that the word "nigger" is unacceptable for him to say, as he asked for the clip to be replaced when he heard that his mumbling might be construed as that word.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Mon May 05, 2014 3:55 pm

Kelinfort wrote:Like his commentary on vehicles, otherwise I couldn't care less about what else he says. Obviously, he has said controversial things in the past. He's conservative, that's for sure. Still, while what he said is obviously racist...it's not really sack worthy.


He's not conservative.
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Postby Alyakia » Mon May 05, 2014 3:56 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Like his commentary on vehicles, otherwise I couldn't care less about what else he says. Obviously, he has said controversial things in the past. He's conservative, that's for sure. Still, while what he said is obviously racist...it's not really sack worthy.


He's not conservative.


what is he then?
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Postby Costa Fierro » Mon May 05, 2014 3:59 pm

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Costa Fierro wrote:
He's not conservative.


what is he then?


He's...himself.
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Postby Alyakia » Mon May 05, 2014 4:03 pm

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what is he then?


He's...himself.


and? what is himself?

"Clarkson is in favour of personal freedom and against government regulation, stating that government should "build park benches and that is it. They should leave us alone." He has a particular contempt for the Health and Safety Executive. He often criticised the Labour governments of Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, especially the 'ban' culture, frequently fixating on the bans on smoking and 2004 ban on fox hunting."

he seems pretty small c conserative, i dunno
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Postby Costa Fierro » Mon May 05, 2014 4:10 pm

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Costa Fierro wrote:
He's...himself.


and? what is himself?

"Clarkson is in favour of personal freedom and against government regulation, stating that government should "build park benches and that is it. They should leave us alone." He has a particular contempt for the Health and Safety Executive. He often criticised the Labour governments of Tony Blair and Gordon Brown, especially the 'ban' culture, frequently fixating on the bans on smoking and 2004 ban on fox hunting."

he seems pretty small c conserative, i dunno


He's populist. He knows what the British public hates and builds on that. But he also says that even he doesn't take himself seriously.
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