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Was East Germany worse than Nazi Germany?

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Imperium Sidhicum
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Postby Imperium Sidhicum » Wed May 21, 2014 7:04 pm

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Southern Hampshire wrote:I do not see how you can compare the treatment of women in Nazi Germany to the treatment of PWD / Jews / non-heterosexuals. They were praised for being women, given medals and recognition for being housewives, being given loans and grants for having children and free unlimited education. They had almost the same rights as males, none of them were oppressive. I do not see how a state encouraging women to be housewives, but not forcing them to, can be considered sexist.


As someone who studied Hitler's Germany last year (only for GCSE, admittedly, but the point still stands), allow me to point out that there were virtually no women in any positions of power whatsoever in Nazi Germany (bar the head of the Nazi Women's League, Gertrude Scholtz-Klink, who had no power anyway).

Furthermore, when the Nazis consolidated, the vast majority of female teachers were sacked (I believe that the same happened to women in medical professions), and from 1936 onwards women couldn't go into law. They weren't allowed any level of inclusion into the political life of the Nazi state. Despite a degree of reversal in the "Women are totally inferior" policy in 1937, they only really started getting jobs in 1943 when the Nazi government decided "Shit, maybe we actually need to harness all the resources at our disposal to try and prevent defeat in this murderous war we started".

So basically, you're talking total crap and women were systematically discriminated against in Nazi Germany; the only women better off were those who wanted to have children as their primary goal in life (of which there were some) and had no desire for a career. All other women were royally shat upon by life in Nazi Germany, just not to the same extent as the various minorities, the disabled, the Soviet prisoners and the leftists.

You might find this useful.


Then again, the situation of women in Nazi Germany wasn't much different from that around the rest of the world at the time.
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Postby Russian Socialist Soviet States » Wed May 21, 2014 7:43 pm

Bolnoa wrote:I dunno, neither sides seemed to acknowledge the free arabia legion.

The Nazis did.
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Postby Fjormark » Wed May 21, 2014 7:53 pm

National Socialist Germany was definitely better than East Germany, it's like the difference between day and night, anyone who says different knows nothing of this topic.

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Postby Geilinor » Wed May 21, 2014 7:59 pm

Fjormark wrote:National Socialist Germany was definitely better than East Germany, it's like the difference between day and night, anyone who says different knows nothing of this topic.

It seems that you know nothing of this topic.
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Postby Berdanvia » Wed May 21, 2014 8:08 pm

Im pretty sure by the end of World War two, most German citizens did not like Hitler since their entire country was getting completely destroyed. I think East Germany was worse for Aryans, but better for other races such as Jews.

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Wed May 21, 2014 8:19 pm

How could one think so?
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