Was East Germany worse than Nazi Germany?

by **Russian Socialist Soviet States** » Thu May 01, 2014 3:57 pm

Draica wrote:
Lithuanian Empire wrote:Your name makes me think you are one of those so-called "anarcho-communists" on NS.

If you were a jew, black, gay, gypsy, Catholic, etc Nazi Germany was not better or safer than the USSR.

Christians could live well in Nazi Germany as long as they didn't speak out against the government.

by **Mormak** » Thu May 01, 2014 4:11 pm

Geilinor wrote:East Germany didn't commit genocide and wasn't expansionist, so Nazi Germany was much worse.

Bolded is false.

by **Mormak** » Thu May 01, 2014 4:16 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Juggalo world wrote:Anything under communism is by default worse.

My step-grandmother--no friend to communists or communism--lived in Berlin during WWII and during the Soviet occupation of Berlin. She said that the Nazis were worse (mind, this is despite the fact that she was regularly assaulted by Soviet soldiers when they invaded the city) because they brought more ruin on the nation.

It's odd how a single generation can how so many different views on that subject.

My Great Uncle who spent a good deal of the post war reconstruction in Berlin despised the communist regime that took over rule of eastern germany, but it could have just been that you know, the National Socialists more or less tolerated you unless if you fit a criteria which he didn't and weren't an outspoken critic. He lost family because of the war, but he lost even more because of them. So is he biased on the subject? Yes, but because they made him so.

by **Geilinor** » Thu May 01, 2014 4:17 pm

Mormak wrote:
Geilinor wrote:East Germany didn't commit genocide and wasn't expansionist, so Nazi Germany was much worse.

Bolded is false.

By the definition of genocide, I am not aware of any genocides in East Germany. Ethnic, racial, or religious groups were not the target of systematic killing and no efforts were made to eradicate any such groups.

by **Liberaxia** » Thu May 01, 2014 4:22 pm

Nervium wrote:
Liberaxia wrote:Well, in contrast to Nazi Germany, East Germany was actually totalitarian. But as bad as or worse than Nazi Germany? They didn't engage in genocide.

... In contrast what? Nazi Germany is about as totalitarian you can get.

An no, the GDR was not worse than Nazi Germany.

The Nazis did not actually achieve totalitarianism. They were far from organized in their operations. And North Korea is as totalitarian as you can get.

by **The Scientific States** » Thu May 01, 2014 4:23 pm

East Germany was bad, but it wasn't even close to as bad as Nazi Germany.

by **Rovinionland** » Sat May 03, 2014 11:49 am

1. no. East germany wasn't killing everyone.
2. Hitler hated everyone that existed, aryan or not. for all we know, he probably was persecuting people for wearing the wrong pants.

by **Herrebrugh** » Sat May 03, 2014 12:33 pm

Rovinionland wrote:1. no. East germany wasn't killing everyone.
2. Hitler hated everyone that existed, aryan or not. for all we know, he probably was persecuting people for wearing the wrong pants.

Uuuuh... I don't think you know a lot about the subject...

by **Rovinionland** » Sat May 03, 2014 12:46 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:
Rovinionland wrote:1. no. East germany wasn't killing everyone.
2. Hitler hated everyone that existed, aryan or not. for all we know, he probably was persecuting people for wearing the wrong pants.

Uuuuh... I don't think you know a lot about the subject...

1. ok, east germany did kill SOME people. nazi germany, however, was killing a big a** chunk of their populace.
2. Well, it sure seems like he did. the last part was hyperboly(or whatever its called, I dont want to call it a joke).but knowing hitler, you never know...

by **Darwinish Brentsylvania** » Sat May 03, 2014 12:51 pm

No, Here's my list of favorite Germanys from 1933 to now:
United Germany
West Germany
East Germany
Nazi Germany (not even a favorite of mines, dislike Nazi Germany a lot)

by **Herrebrugh** » Sat May 03, 2014 12:57 pm

Rovinionland wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
Uuuuh... I don't think you know a lot about the subject...

1. ok, east germany did kill SOME people. nazi germany, however, was killing a big a** chunk of their populace.
2. Well, it sure seems like he did. the last part was hyperboly(or whatever its called, I dont want to call it a joke).but knowing hitler, you never know...

Like I said, you don't seem to know a lot about the subject, as if you would, you'd know that Hitler didn't hate everyone (nor does it seem like he did), nor do we never know, because we do: he didn't.

by **Pilotto** » Sat May 03, 2014 1:46 pm

At least you could leave Nazi Germany.

by **ShadowDragons** » Sat May 03, 2014 2:02 pm

Yes. You had better living conditions in nazi germany and at least you weren't locked in.

by **Alyakia** » Sat May 03, 2014 2:03 pm

ShadowDragons wrote:Yes. You had better living conditions in nazi germany and at least you weren't locked in.

yeah. sometimes they even gave you a free trip out!

by **Herrebrugh** » Sat May 03, 2014 2:04 pm

ShadowDragons wrote:Yes. You had better living conditions in nazi germany and at least you weren't locked in.

You're telling me that a state in which you had a very high chance of dying is better than a state in which you at least had a chance to live a reasonably normal live?

by **Divair2** » Sat May 03, 2014 2:06 pm

Get back to me when East Germany launches a genocide.

by **Mormak** » Sat May 03, 2014 2:09 pm

Divair2 wrote:Get back to me when East Germany launches a genocide.

Do the Russian deportations, and Mass killings magically not count?

by **Wind in the Willows** » Sat May 03, 2014 2:09 pm

They were both equally awful.

by **Divair2** » Sat May 03, 2014 2:09 pm

Mormak wrote:
Divair2 wrote:Get back to me when East Germany launches a genocide.

Do the Russian deportations, and Mass killings magically not count?

12 million people were killed in East Germany? I'd love to see you source that.

by **Alyakia** » Sat May 03, 2014 2:10 pm

Mormak wrote:
Divair2 wrote:Get back to me when East Germany launches a genocide.

Do the Russian deportations, and Mass killings magically not count?

pretty sure they didn't have literal death camps but feel free to elaborate

by **Herrebrugh** » Sat May 03, 2014 2:13 pm

Divair2 wrote:
Mormak wrote:
Do the Russian deportations, and Mass killings magically not count?

12 million people were killed in East Germany? I'd love to see you source that.

And considering East Germany was under military occupation then, I believe, and the German Democratic Republic didn't exist yet. Even if it would be true, it wouldn't be an East German genocide, it'd be a Soviet genocide committed in East Germany.

by **The Scientific States** » Sat May 03, 2014 2:37 pm

Wind in the Willows wrote:They were both equally awful.

They were both awful, but at least East Germany didn't murder 12 million people, and start the worst war in human history.

by **Wind in the Willows** » Sat May 03, 2014 2:39 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Wind in the Willows wrote:They were both equally awful.

They were both awful, but at least East Germany didn't murder 12 million people, and start the worst war in human history.

I believe the correct numbers of people murdered by Nazi Germany is actually 11 million. And yes, they are awful.

by **The Scientific States** » Sat May 03, 2014 2:40 pm

Wind in the Willows wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
They were both awful, but at least East Germany didn't murder 12 million people, and start the worst war in human history.

I believe the correct numbers of people murdered by Nazi Germany is actually 11 million. And yes, they are awful.

So how are they equally awful?

by **Alyakia** » Sat May 03, 2014 2:44 pm

Wind in the Willows wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
They were both awful, but at least East Germany didn't murder 12 million people, and start the worst war in human history.

I believe the correct numbers of people murdered by Nazi Germany is actually 11 million. And yes, they are awful.

honestly it depends on who you count. and then if you blame them for the casualties as a result of the war period.

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