Was East Germany worse than Nazi Germany?

[Kelinfort]

why does every uneducated westerner think they just threw troops at a problem? sure it happened at Stalingrad but everyone was doing it, hell thats what D-Day was if we are going to analyse troop throwing.

It's futile to argue about the Great Patriotic War/WW II with westerners. They still think America "did all the work" lmao.

Well, 40% West, 60% East.

[CTALNH]

I am rather certain greece all the heavy lifting.

Pfft amateurs. Everyone knows Romania was the cream of the crop and that they did all the work.

I am rather certain the Swedes best all of us.

[Mormak]

No. Under Hitler 11 million people were killed, in East Germany nowhere near that many were killed

Because not that many people lived in Eastern Prussia, and other provinces, It sure didn't help the body count much though.

[Draica]

Who cares about the comparisons of the death count? Bloodlines, family-names, and a bunch of other things were wiped out by both Hitler AND Stalin. They both were evil men.

[CTALNH]

It's futile to argue about the Great Patriotic War/WW II with westerners. They still think America "did all the work" lmao.

Well, 40% West, 60% East.

More like 30% 70%

[Lithuanian Empire]

14?

Oh so that explain the lack of critical thinking and knowledge.

No offence but go check how many people died in Siberia.

So what, we are going to count deaths now?
Stalin's mass deportations and Great Purge killed over 1,5 million people.
6 million people got affected by his bloody policy.
His idiotic tactics in WW2 led to almost 20 million deaths.
Famines caused by him also add to it.

And he didn't just target single ethnicities - he crushed anyone in his path.

EDIT: Wikipedia's answer:
"Before the 1991 dissolution of the Soviet Union, researchers who attempted to count the number of people killed under Stalin's regime produced estimates ranging from 3 to 60 million."

60 million. Can Hitler top that?

[Mormak]

Well, 40% West, 60% East.

More like 30% 70%

I'd say it was more akin to 50 or so for the Western Front.

After all, It won the War in Africa, and Italy basically on it's own.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Pfft amateurs. Everyone knows Romania was the cream of the crop and that they did all the work.

I am rather certain the Swedes best all of us.

Fuck the Swedes; clearly, the Netherlands had a massive advantage in the field.

[Kelinfort]

Well, 40% West, 60% East.

More like 30% 70%

I'd disagree, partly because of the Lend Lease act and East Asian conflict.

[Slovenian socialist federative republic]

Everyone is writting about living standards, but that wasnt exactly the question (Was East Germany worse than Nazi Germany?)
DDR was much better than the Reich on many scales, most significantly on politics and the functioning of that country over the period of those years.
The DDR for example didnt start ANY armed conflict, eventough it it was on one of the hotspots of the cold war, while Hitla just tought he could take on the whole world and died like a pig in his bunker less than a decade later.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Oh so that explain the lack of critical thinking and knowledge.

No offence but go check how many people died in Siberia.

So what, we are going to count deaths now?
Stalin's mass deportations and Great Purge killed over 1,5 million people.
6 million people got affected by his bloody policy.
His idiotic tactics in WW2 led to almost 20 million deaths.
Famines caused by him also add to it.

And he didn't just target single ethnicities - he crushed anyone in his path.

EDIT: Wikipedia's answer:
"Before the 1991 dissolution of the Soviet Union, researchers who attempted to count the number of people killed under Stalin's regime produced estimates ranging from 3 to 60 million."

60 million. Can Hitler top that?

The problem is that while Stalin did all of this on his own during an extended period of time; Hitler did it all on his own.

To be certain, both Stalin and Hitler were pricks; but Hitler was more of a prick than Stalin.

[Kelinfort]

So what, we are going to count deaths now?
Stalin's mass deportations and Great Purge killed over 1,5 million people.
6 million people got affected by his bloody policy.
His idiotic tactics in WW2 led to almost 20 million deaths.
Famines caused by him also add to it.

And he didn't just target single ethnicities - he crushed anyone in his path.

EDIT: Wikipedia's answer:
"Before the 1991 dissolution of the Soviet Union, researchers who attempted to count the number of people killed under Stalin's regime produced estimates ranging from 3 to 60 million."

60 million. Can Hitler top that?

The problem is that while Stalin did all of this on his own during an extended period of time; Hitler did it all on his own.

To be certain, both Stalin and Hitler were pricks; but Hitler was more of a prick than Stalin.

I rate Hitler worse than Stalin, because Hitler actually targeted ethnic groups en masse. The worse Stalin did was harass the Tartars and kill the Kulaks.

[CTALNH]

Oh so that explain the lack of critical thinking and knowledge.

No offence but go check how many people died in Siberia.

So what, we are going to count deaths now?
Stalin's mass deportations and Great Purge killed over 1,5 million people.
6 million people got affected by his bloody policy.
His idiotic tactics in WW2 led to almost 20 million deaths.
Famines caused by him also add to it.

And he didn't just target single ethnicities - he crushed anyone in his path.

About the Deportation:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Gulag_Prisoner_Stats_1934-1953.PNG

So no 1.5 million did not die in the great purges.

6 million of who? And yes what if they did get affected why are you not screaming bloody murder about the Americans treatment of the native Americans?

Because you know he was responsible for creating war strategies and plans...not really he let his generals do their job and only issued orders when something really important happened.

I am assuming you mean the Ukrainian holodomor which not surprisingly do to your age was caused by bad weather,bourgeoisie farmers and a typhus epidemic that moved in from the Caucasus.

So yeah prove me wrong if you can.

[Mormak]

So what, we are going to count deaths now?
Stalin's mass deportations and Great Purge killed over 1,5 million people.
6 million people got affected by his bloody policy.
His idiotic tactics in WW2 led to almost 20 million deaths.
Famines caused by him also add to it.

And he didn't just target single ethnicities - he crushed anyone in his path.

EDIT: Wikipedia's answer:
"Before the 1991 dissolution of the Soviet Union, researchers who attempted to count the number of people killed under Stalin's regime produced estimates ranging from 3 to 60 million."

60 million. Can Hitler top that?

The problem is that while Stalin did all of this on his own during an extended period of time; Hitler did it all on his own.

To be certain, both Stalin and Hitler were pricks; but Hitler was more of a prick than Stalin.

I really don't get the logic here.

Both were horrible, but Hitler more so because he did it in less time? For lack of a better word more efficiently? How does Alacrity top body count i guess is my question.

[CTALNH]

More like 30% 70%

I'd disagree, partly because of the Lend Lease act and East Asian conflict.

Yeah you know because the west needed to plan and conserve forces to attack the soviet union later.

[The New Lowlands]

Nazi Germany killed more people, oppressed more people, and starved more people both directly and indirectly. No.

[Vissegaard]

No. They were the same bad.
Maybe Stalin was really worse than Hitler. But he didn´t rule East Germany.

I'd say Eastern Germany under their "democratic" government was MARGINALLY better off than under Nazi Germany.
Keyword: marginally.

I do not take the word "democratic" as a synonym for the word "better", sorry. But yes, the dissent in East Germany was slightly bigger than in Nazi Germany.

[United Marxist Nations]

Oh so that explain the lack of critical thinking and knowledge.

No offence but go check how many people died in Siberia.

So what, we are going to count deaths now?
Stalin's mass deportations and Great Purge killed over 1,5 million people.
6 million people got affected by his bloody policy.
His idiotic tactics in WW2 led to almost 20 million deaths.
Famines caused by him also add to it.

And he didn't just target single ethnicities - he crushed anyone in his path.

EDIT: Wikipedia's answer:
"Before the 1991 dissolution of the Soviet Union, researchers who attempted to count the number of people killed under Stalin's regime produced estimates ranging from 3 to 60 million."

60 million. Can Hitler top that?

Notice that that says before the dissolution. What data were they exactly going on again? That same article says that recent studies put the number at just over 9 million.

[Nervium]

The problem is that while Stalin did all of this on his own during an extended period of time; Hitler did it all on his own.

To be certain, both Stalin and Hitler were pricks; but Hitler was more of a prick than Stalin.

I really don't get the logic here.

Both were horrible, but Hitler more so because he did it in less time? For lack of a better word more efficiently? How does Alacrity top body count i guess is my question.

Also most of the GDR's history is post-Stalin. So I don't really know why this alway brought up.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

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[Wind in the Willows]

They were equally awful.

[Rio Cana]

East German helped liberate Africa.
Read this - http://www.vip-ev.de/text522.pdf

Found out some East Germans who moved to rich West Germany are going back to East Germany even though the pay might be lower since they find the West Germans to be unsociable. They say the East Germans are more sociable.

The Central German government is helping people move back East. German has States and it seems the Eastern States are trying to catch up.

Watch this short report from Germany, its in english, which explains it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEZSqSrO9p0

In answering the OP's question. No.
GDR had its beginning has a Stalinist totalitarian government. But when Stalin was no longer around they dropped the totalitarian part and became consultative authoritarian. That's what this guy in the following video says.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKI5VaBzOsk

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I really don't get the logic here.

Both were horrible, but Hitler more so because he did it in less time? For lack of a better word more efficiently? How does Alacrity top body count i guess is my question.

Also most of the GDR's history is post-Stalin. So I don't really know why this alway brought up.

I would have thought he meant East Germany during the last remainder of Stalin's years.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

They were both pretty bad for their residents, but East Germany was less hard on the surrounding terrain.

[Nervium]

Also most of the GDR's history is post-Stalin. So I don't really know why this alway brought up.

I would have thought he meant East Germany during the last remainder of Stalin's years.

Even then most of the deaths under Stalin (or even all of them) occured in the Soviet Union, while East Germany was under it's sphere of influence, it was not part of it.
Also, most of the deaths occured during the 30's and 40's (The Purge + Holodomor + WWII), even though El Stalino stayed an asshole far beyond that.