Seat Belts Shouldn't Be Mandatory

[Thafoo]

That's likely it.

Why don't you have a signature BTW?

I'll TG you about it.

[Lamaredia]

Why don't you have a signature BTW?

I'll TG you about it.

Alrighty.

[Liberaxia]

Ugh. Forget it.

Contracts are agreements to exchange the use of property.

Oh wow.

Seriously, pick up a law book.

[Seriong]

A law that can punish someone for NOT doing something that affects no one but the person choosing not to do it absolutely should not exist. It's as absurd as it is unconstitutional. The idea that the government gets to mandate something that I do or don't do inside a vehicle that I bought and paid for myself is sickening.
I, personally, am not a seat belt user. Never have been, never will be. Are they a good idea in some cases? Probably. Is it my choice to assume the risk by not wearing it? Absolutely.

You're naive if you think it's about safety. It's the same mentality behind suicide being illegal, it prevents lawsuits.

It's illegal so that if you get into an accident, and are injured, you cannot sue the car company for inadequate safety measures, because you were violating the law in not making use of them. In its simplest form, they want you to be safe, so you don't sue the car company for putting you in danger.

[Sibirsky]

Contracts are agreements to exchange the use of property.

Oh wow.

Seriously, pick up a law book.

I have.

Do you have a fucking point you are trying to make? A rebuttal? Then fucking make it.

[Tavistock]

I really dont think this issue warrants 1500 posts...

[Olde Engelond]

Despite usually advocating soft paternalism I can see that if it can be established that one individual's refusal to wear his seatbelt will result in no harm to anyone but himself then he should be free to take the risk and the state should should not have the moral authority to chuck him in gaol for acting on his own judgement. However, as we have the National Health Service in this country it is true that the financial costs of harm the individual could potentially cause to himself will have to be picked up by the taxpayer. Thus I would say that in the current state of affairs that it should be within the remit of the state to compel an individual to wear his seatbelt, though ideally it ought not to be.

[Hurdegaryp]

I really dont think this issue warrants 1500 posts...

That is one way to look at it and I do not necessarily disagree with you. However, this is NationStates General. Non-issues are ridiculously popular in this place by default.

Despite usually advocating soft paternalism I can see that if it can be established that one individual's refusal to wear his seatbelt will result in no harm to anyone but himself then he should be free to take the risk and the state should should not have the moral authority to chuck him in gaol for acting on his own judgement. However, as we have the National Health Service in this country it is true that the financial costs of harm the individual could potentially cause to himself will have to be picked up by the taxpayer. Thus I would say that in the current state of affairs that it should be within the remit of the state to compel an individual to wear his seatbelt, though ideally it ought not to be.

You may very well ended this thread, old bean. One might even say that you ended it gloriously.

[Euroslavia]

I really dont think this issue warrants 1500 posts...

You underestimate NSG's ability to beat dead horses.

This is not an endorsement for animal cruelty. Even though the animal is already dead.

[Jocabia]

I really dont think this issue warrants 1500 posts...

You underestimate NSG's ability to beat dead horses.

This is not an endorsement for animal cruelty. Even though the animal is already dead.

They brought in another and beat it to death too.

[Hurdegaryp]

You underestimate NSG's ability to beat dead horses.

This is not an endorsement for animal cruelty. Even though the animal is already dead.

They brought in another and beat it to death too.

And after that the bludgeoned horse carcasses were sold to the food industry as beef.