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Should the US allow militias?

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No
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:54 pm

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Postby Diopolis » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:55 pm

Arine wrote:
Taber wrote:Militia's were nearly always attached to some form of Civil government. Like a township or city or state.

I, for one, would not enjoy roving bands of armed men walking through my dwelling.

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Postby Liriena » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:56 pm

Nah, thank you. I prefer my armed men the same way I prefer my deities: accountable.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:56 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:Your reading was incorrect/biased/incomplete, Militias are wholly legal under US law. For example...

Yes, they should remain. They're an exercise in the right to assembly, after all.

This, basically. Though I think this woman's motives are debatable.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:59 pm

Diopolis wrote:Yes. If you meant "should the US allow private militias?", then no.

Still trying to puzzle out what you mean by private militias. The closest I can figure would be PMCs and the like, but I'm not sure if that's what you meant...
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Postby Constaniana » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:59 pm

Napkiraly wrote:

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You think that's the weirdest thing on that site? All I have to say is this:
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:02 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Yes. If you meant "should the US allow private militias?", then no.

Still trying to puzzle out what you mean by private militias. The closest I can figure would be PMCs and the like, but I'm not sure if that's what you meant...

Nongovernmental militias would have been a better term. While I intended it to apply mostly to the nutjobs who think Obama is the lizard king or what have you, I suppose it would ban PMCs too.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:04 pm

Diopolis wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:Still trying to puzzle out what you mean by private militias. The closest I can figure would be PMCs and the like, but I'm not sure if that's what you meant...

Nongovernmental militias would have been a better term. While I intended it to apply mostly to the nutjobs who think Obama is the lizard king or what have you, I suppose it would ban PMCs too.

Ah, got'cha.

There's a problem, however.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:06 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:
Diopolis wrote:Nongovernmental militias would have been a better term. While I intended it to apply mostly to the nutjobs who think Obama is the lizard king or what have you, I suppose it would ban PMCs too.

Ah, got'cha.

There's a problem, however.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

I would argue that neither of those are technically peaceable.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:13 pm

Constaniana wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:"Infowars Super Male Vitality"
All of my wats.

You think that's the weirdest thing on that site? All I have to say is this:
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....

I...

*sigh*

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Postby Liriena » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:15 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Constaniana wrote:You think that's the weirdest thing on that site? All I have to say is this:
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....

I...

*sigh*

You really can't even joke about that website.
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:18 pm

Liriena wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:....

I...

*sigh*

You really can't even joke about that website.

I think it depletes a persons' sanity faster than an Eldritch Abomination.

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Postby Islamic republiq of Julundar » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:22 pm

Name one thing the government does that tells me what to eat, think, and read. My Service doesn't count.


Government fluoridates the water and bans tobacco to make you believe Government propaganda.

The fact that you cannot see that the government is evil incarnate proves that you believe Government propaganda.

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Postby Ancian » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:23 pm

Arine wrote:
Constaniana wrote:I'm no expert, but I thought the National Guard, run by the individual states, counts as militias.

But they are still attached to the federal government.

States have the right to not let the fed. Gov. use them, they're under states. Completly.
I learned that in school, apparently one state went to court over it and won.
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Postby Divair2 » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:25 pm

No.

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Postby Pilotto » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:26 pm

Divair2 wrote:No.

Yes.

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Postby Marsisian » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:27 pm

Relying on militias is like an old man depending on a broken cane, or a soldier depending on a Chauchat.
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Postby The Norgan Alliance » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:27 pm

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

It's kinda guaranteed.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:28 pm

Divair2 wrote:No.

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Free men support militias. *nod*
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Postby The BaRen » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:29 pm

Arine wrote:
The BaRen wrote:Meh.
Depends.
Most of these militias would probably be filled with 'crackpots' who have nothing else to do.
Although I have to ask, why do we need militia's right now? There isn't any kind of government coup de tat or enormous political strife in the US right now. Maybe a militia in gang ridden neighborhoods. Then again, these would be just another example of a gang.
Yes, I support the right to form militias, although only on a county level and approval from the Mayor and City Council.

The feds are already telling us what guns we can own, when we can talk about religion, and what our kids can read!

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Postby The Silver Bloods » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:29 pm

Yes and it is our right to as stated in the Constitution.

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Postby Mandicoria » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:31 pm

I thought it was technically allowed in the 2nd Ammendment. But if it isn't: Yes.
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Postby Kxcd » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:31 pm

As long as they are accountable to the local authorities, yes...
Marsisian wrote:Relying on militias is like an old man depending on a broken cane, or a soldier depending on a Chauchat.

...but you make an excellent point. Why depend on that which has failed its'task? And what's a chauchat?
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Postby Taber » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:33 pm

Kxcd wrote:As long as they are accountable to the local authorities, yes...
Marsisian wrote:Relying on militias is like an old man depending on a broken cane, or a soldier depending on a Chauchat.

...but you make an excellent point. Why depend on that which has failed its'task? And what's a chauchat?


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