Should Austria- Hungary be reformed

[Old Tyrannia]

Why would he do that? Better leave Serbia to Alexander Karađorđević. And Bosnia too, come to think of it, that's where all the trouble started in the first place. His claim to Croatia and Slovenia is strong enough as it is.

Fair enough. Now, the only issues are with former Italia irredenta and Czechoslovakia.

He also has a strong claim to Bohemia (Czech Republic) and Slovakia. And maybe when Putin invades eastern Ukraine Austria-Hungary could kindly offer to bring western Ukraine under their protective wing. As for Venetia-Lombardy, we've established that those lands are going back to the Venetian Republic, which just leaves bits and pieces of Poland and Romania...

[Ifreann]

If we were going to reform empires just because someone on NSG is interested in their history then we'd have a lot of conflicting empires. Maybe that's the point...

Do you have empirical evidence for that?

Alas, all record of the New British Imperial Party was lost in a twister. They're a blight on server farms *nods*.

[United Dependencies]

Fair enough. Now, the only issues are with former Italia irredenta and Czechoslovakia.

He also has a strong claim to Bohemia (Czech Republic) and Slovakia. And maybe when Putin invades eastern Ukraine Austria-Hungary could kindly offer to bring western Ukraine under their protective wing. As for Venetia-Lombardy, we've established that those lands are going back to the Venetian Republic, which just leaves bits and pieces of Poland and Romania...

Just as soon as the Qing return to the Forbidden City.

[Neutraligon]

If we are going to restore Empires, why not go back to the Roman Empire, oh and the Mongol Empire of course.

[Old Tyrannia]

He also has a strong claim to Bohemia (Czech Republic) and Slovakia. And maybe when Putin invades eastern Ukraine Austria-Hungary could kindly offer to bring western Ukraine under their protective wing. As for Venetia-Lombardy, we've established that those lands are going back to the Venetian Republic, which just leaves bits and pieces of Poland and Romania...

Just as soon as the Qing return to the Forbidden City.

Why stop there? Ming dynasty is best dynasty.

If we are going to restore Empires, why not go back to the Roman Empire?

I'd rather have the Byzantine Empire myself. And Pharaonic Egypt, with its borders restored to those of the New Kingdom.

[Ostroeuropa]

Nope. It would be like Yugoslavia but much worse.

Yeah, that too. Good luck to anyone who wants to attempt to unite Croats, Serbs, and Bosnians under the same flag.

Genghis Gambit...
*dons an austrian military outfit and invades the balkans*

See? They united!

[Agritum]

Just as soon as the Qing return to the Forbidden City.

Why stop there? Ming dynasty is best dynasty.

If we are going to restore Empires, why not go back to the Roman Empire?

I'd rather have the Byzantine Empire myself. And Pharaonic Egypt, with its borders restored to those of the New Kingdom.

I have to disagree.

The Roman Empire would be exactly like the EU, which I like, but with the Italians ruling everyone and daily crucifixions of dissenters.

[The IASM]

Just as soon as the Qing return to the Forbidden City.

Why stop there? Ming dynasty is best dynasty.

If we are going to restore Empires, why not go back to the Roman Empire?

I'd rather have the Byzantine Empire myself. And Pharaonic Egypt, with its borders restored to those of the New Kingdom.

No the Roman Empire or the Imperium Romanum failed to uphold the glory of Rome, or should be restored as the Roman Empire proper with the other former empires being held as subject dependencies. Meanwhile the patriarch of Constantinople is once again restored to his rightful postion.

[Kyuji]

Hardly , if anything it was a safe haven for jews , ukranians , and the other groups living inside of it.

It was a multicultural cesspool that was the personal property of the Hapsburgs. It was wracked by ethnic tensions and violence.

Not true .

[Old Tyrannia]

Why stop there? Ming dynasty is best dynasty.

I'd rather have the Byzantine Empire myself. And Pharaonic Egypt, with its borders restored to those of the New Kingdom.

I have to disagree.

The Roman Empire would be exactly like the EU, which I like, but with the Italians ruling everyone and daily crucifixions of dissenters.

Don't be silly, the EU is the Fourth Reich. It's destined to be ruled by the Eternal Erdreichsfuhrer Merkelator and to last 10,000 years. Just ask this guy.

[The New Lowlands]

Q: Do the majority within the proposed states' borders want that state to come about?
A: No.
Q2: Should the state be formed?
A: No.

[Eaglleia]

Just as soon as the Qing return to the Forbidden City.

Why stop there? Ming dynasty is best dynasty.

While we're at it, bring back the Mongol, Mauryan and Aztec empires.

[Pilotto]

Q: Do the majority within the proposed states' borders want that state to come about?
A: No.
Q2: Should the state be formed?
A: No.

And thus, the thread is concluded.

[The New Lowlands]

It was a multicultural cesspool that was the personal property of the Hapsburgs. It was wracked by ethnic tensions and violence.

Not true .

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[Miravium]

Remove Wienerschnitzel from the premises.

[Verdum]

Sure, Germany needs another friend to pay his debt.

[Kyuji]

Not true .

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Greater_Austria
Now combine that with the many laws protecting the many groups within its borders and it hardly seems fair to call it a cesspool

[The New Lowlands]

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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Greater_Austria
Now combine that with the many laws protecting the many groups within its borders and it hardly seems fair to call it a cesspool

"was a proposal, conceived by a group of scholars surrounding Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, that never came to pass."

[Lunatic Goofballs]

It did up untill the first world war

Yes. But this time, we´ll kill all the Serbians before they fuck everything up.

*** Warned for trolling *** Next come the bans.

[Kyuji]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_of_Greater_Austria
Now combine that with the many laws protecting the many groups within its borders and it hardly seems fair to call it a cesspool

"was a proposal, conceived by a group of scholars surrounding Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, that never came to pass."

A plan which he supported , this was also country where they did their best to prevent ethnic tensions.

[The New Lowlands]

"was a proposal, conceived by a group of scholars surrounding Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria, that never came to pass."

A plan which he supported , this was also country where they did their best to prevent ethnic tensions.

The fact that they let paramilitaries run around seems not to support that notion.

[The Grand American Empire]

Q: Do the majority within the proposed states' borders want that state to come about?
A: No.
Q2: Should the state be formed?
A: No.

And thus, the thread is concluded.

It is not over

[Kyuji]

A plan which he supported , this was also country where they did their best to prevent ethnic tensions.

The fact that they let paramilitaries run around seems not to support that notion.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Sich_RiflemenLike this ?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Do the people of the former countries of the Empire want to reform it? if so yes, if not then no.

Simple really.

Though the simple answer is often beat to death with an axe and then thrown out the window on this forum.

[Seattile]

... Though the simple answer is often beat to death with an axe and then thrown out the window on this forum.

Well, the simple answer is never the funny and stupid answer.