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Postby Evil Grantica » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:14 pm

Beta Test wrote:It hasn't really. If anything I've become more libertarian over the past year, but that's probably because of RL influences rather than this website.

Me too. Thomas Sowell, Milton Friedman, and LearnLiberty turned me. I haven't changed too much, just gotten more radical, which has taken me away from the Right.
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Postby Liriena » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:28 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:I've become way more moderate. Looking at my first post on General... :shock:

Don't even get me started on my posting history.
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Postby Zavea » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:30 pm

in recent years i've felt myself become more cagey and circumspect with what i choose to believe in relativity to this place in general

i don't intend that as a universal insult, though. what i mean to say is more like i feel like i share common ground with many people here, and even if i think i've evolved, i also think they're capable of evolving, so it's difficult for me to have any contempt. this is also b/c i think this place is a useful demonstrator of diverse political beliefs as people express them naturally on the internet, and it's important to witness that if i want to understand why they think what they do

so while i don't think it's changed me (i haven't involved myself enough in this community) i certainly think it's been part of the formula
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Postby Coffee Cakes » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:34 pm

NSG has turned me into a libertarian and staunch capitalist. So that deserves a cookie.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:39 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:NSG has turned me into a libertarian and staunch capitalist. So that deserves a cookie.


Indeed.

*hands CC a cookie*

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:47 pm

Coffee Cakes wrote:NSG has turned me into a libertarian and staunch capitalist. So that deserves a cookie.


My views on gay parenting did change because of NSG.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:49 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:NSG has turned me into a libertarian and staunch capitalist. So that deserves a cookie.


My views on gay parenting did change because of NSG.


My views on LGBT people changed. I never had an opinion, then I met a few and liked them. Now I have a positive view of them.

Edit: at least the individuals I like.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:50 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
My views on gay parenting did change because of NSG.


My views on LGBT people changed. I never had an opinion, then I met a few and liked them. Now I have a positive view of them.


I didn't have a bad opinion of the LGBTQ community, but I didn't, once upon a time, think they should be parents. That changed because of a debate I had with Bottle. Way back when I started posting.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:54 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
My views on LGBT people changed. I never had an opinion, then I met a few and liked them. Now I have a positive view of them.


I didn't have a bad opinion of the LGBTQ community, but I didn't, once upon a time, think they should be parents. That changed because of a debate I had with Bottle. Way back when I started posting.


I never had an opinion one way or the other.

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Postby Kelinfort » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:54 pm

This site basically took all the religion out of me. Besides that, not much.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:57 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
I didn't have a bad opinion of the LGBTQ community, but I didn't, once upon a time, think they should be parents. That changed because of a debate I had with Bottle. Way back when I started posting.


I never had an opinion one way or the other.


I did. Now it is positive. Frankly, when you come down to it, an orphaned child just wants a home and loving parents. I don't think he/she cares if it's two men or two women or a man and a woman.
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Postby Estado Paulista » Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:46 am

NSG hasn't changed my views much. Although I can say they're not the same as when I joined, but that's not thanks to NSG. NSG changed my stances on separatism and social welfare and that's it. Nonetheless, I think coexisting with people from different ideological backgrounds made me rethink a lot about my positions.

I joined the forums on September 2013 and since then, I'm less socially liberal than I used to be — but I'm still pro-choice, pro-gay marriage and pro-drug legalization. I sort of "reconverted" to Catholicism, although I still hold on firmly to my Positivist and secular values.

I think my biggest change was becoming more nationalist. Not an irredentist, xenophobic nutjob but just an average man who loves his "Mãe Gentil" and is working on improving it.

Overall, I still label myself as a "radical centrist" or "pragmatic centrist" — for the most part because there's no formal ideology that fits me and because I value pragmatism more than anything.
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Postby Britcan » Sun Apr 27, 2014 1:23 am

Looking back I realise how much of an immature idiot I was when I joined this site. I was an extremely militant atheist, rediculously anti-EU, somewhat more economically libertarian and probably a UKIP sympathiser.

Some of the changes in my views is probably just me becoming more mature and better informed, but NSG certainly played a large part in the changes.

This nation should not be taken to be representative of my real-life views, nor should any of the nonsense I posted on here as a teenager.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:01 am

I've become a lot less generic leftist activist and now I just want to watch the world burn.
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Postby Ordinary People » Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:02 am

Coffee Cakes wrote:NSG has turned me into a libertarian and staunch capitalist. So that deserves a cookie.


... how?

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:03 am

Coffee Cakes wrote:NSG has turned me into a libertarian and staunch capitalist. So that deserves a cookie.


Due to the laws of supply and demand, the cookie will cost you five dollars.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:04 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:NSG has turned me into a libertarian and staunch capitalist. So that deserves a cookie.


Due to the laws of supply and demand, the cookie will cost you five dollars.


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Postby Old Tyrannia » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:39 am

Interestingly, it has made me more right-wing, more royalist, more pro-religion, and more anti-capitalist as well as anti-socialist. Of course, when I first joined NationStates I was quite young and didn't possess any really strong political beliefs or a particular ideology, but I went through a few phases before I got to where I am now.
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Postby AiliailiA » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:41 am

Not very much I'm afraid. I was already in my 40's when I joined and I'd argued with lots of people about lots of things before then. So my broad political alignment hasn't changed much.

I've become aware of a wider range of sexualities (that being one of the few subject people in real life don't argue about, in my experience). Years ago when I joined I thought there were just straights, bisexuals, gays and lesbians. I respected all those, because someone else's sexuality is none of my business ... but I was probably rather insensitive to other alignments because I just wasn't aware that such sexualities existed.

I take the letter of law and the court process a lot more seriously now. I never bothered to read court judgements, precedents or even the laws themselves, until I came here and saw them cited in thread arguments I'd gotten involved in. The law is not easy reading, but I was enticed into it by the strength and consistency of arguments made by posters who do know the law. It's not that I have any pretensions of being a lawyer, it's just interesting. Reading those moral battles fought out in such a formal way has I think made me more rigorous in my own morality, and more cautious of starting arguments I can't win. So that has changed my approach to argument, if not my views.

Of course my views have changed in the x years I have been here. But apart from the two examples given above, in which I had my nose rubbed in my own ignorance, it has been my choice to drink when NSG led me to water. I really can't say that NSG changed my views in any other way. It might even have further entrenched me, because argument is not the best way to find the truth.
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Postby Lonbonia » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:45 am

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Postby Great Empire of Gamilus » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:48 am

let me let you in on a secret... not that much...

because /pol/ changed me more...
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Postby Veroxia » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:49 am

NS made me from a Socialist to a Democratic-Socialist, and a bit of a nationalist as well.
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Postby The Great Warrior Rivers » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:49 am

Well, before Nationstates, I would've liked to have considered myself a pacifist. Now I'm a person who advocates war. My views on the minimum wage have also changed (ban it!). Maybe I have become more conservative?
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Postby AiliailiA » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:53 am

Lonbonia wrote:
Divair2 wrote:It hasn't.


You forgot to your post.
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