Is Capitalism still the answer?

[Rovinionland]

What was the answer?

Well there's two possible answers:
1. Mad science - divide the world into test groups and test economic models on societies like guinea pigs. (Most would find this answer unethical.)
or
A. Democracy - Let all businesses be co-ops. Co-ops are a nice option most people would be comfortable with, I imagine.

choice 1 could work!

[The Serbian Empire]

Still the answer? It was never the answer.

It's only used as it's the best answer that exists at this time that will appease the general public without making people think that if they work harder than the laziest that they won't make any more money. All I know is Communism doesn't work, Capitalism works little better, and Socialism is merely a transition idea not meant for permanent usage if one believes in Marxist thought.

[Lithuanian Empire]

What was the answer?

Well there's two possible answers:
1. Mad science - divide the world into test groups and test economic models on societies like guinea pigs. (Most would find this answer unethical.)
or
A. Democracy - Let all businesses be co-ops. Co-ops are a nice option most people would be comfortable with, I imagine.

Unlike in politics, in economy the best solution is not the one that people like, it's the one which has the most private control and concurency. A community cannot control a factory, there needs to be a leader who can take the consequences and lead the factory.

[The Scientific States]

i believe the best way is to continue the free market system, only not only put tons of restrictions, but also set it up so that the richer you are, the higher your income tax. also, once you reach a certain amount of wealth, you get a bunch of new taxes.posting.php?mode=quote&f=20&p=19823552#

AND WELFARE! yes! Foodstamps, free healthcare, safety nets, all that stuff. plus we need to become mainly agricultural, like in the old days.

AND ABOVE ALL BAN CHEMICALS IN OUR FOOD!

Welfare, foodstamps, and universal healthcare=good.

Agrarianism and Anti Chemical BS=awful.

[Conscentia]

i believe the best way is to continue the free market system, only not only put tons of restrictions, but also set it up so that the richer you are, the higher your income tax. also, once you reach a certain amount of wealth, you get a bunch of new taxes.posting.php?mode=quote&f=20&p=19823552#

AND WELFARE! yes! Foodstamps, free healthcare, safety nets, all that stuff. plus we need to become mainly agricultural, like in the old days.

AND ABOVE ALL BAN CHEMICALS IN OUR FOOD!

Sir, food consists of chemicals - chemicals like oxidane and triglycerides. Why do you want to ban food?

[Conscentia]

Well there's two possible answers:
1. Mad science - divide the world into test groups and test economic models on societies like guinea pigs. (Most would find this answer unethical.)
or
A. Democracy - Let all businesses be co-ops. Co-ops are a nice option most people would be comfortable with, I imagine.

Unlike in politics, in economy the best solution is not the one that people like, it's the one which has the most private control and concurency. A community cannot control a factory, there needs to be a leader who can take the consequences and lead the factory.

"A society cannot control a nation, there needs to be a leader who can take the consequences and lead the nation"

Autocracy is not the best solution. Democracy is. In a democratic business, each employee has a higher stake in the success of the business.

[Rovinionland]

AND WELFARE! yes! Foodstamps, free healthcare, safety nets, all that stuff. plus we need to become mainly agricultural, like in the old days.

AND ABOVE ALL BAN CHEMICALS IN OUR FOOD!

Welfare, foodstamps, and universal healthcare=good.

Agrarianism and Anti Chemical BS=awful.

your awful. Go to an organic store and buy organic food. now go to mcdonalds. taste the difference?

[Rovinionland]

AND WELFARE! yes! Foodstamps, free healthcare, safety nets, all that stuff. plus we need to become mainly agricultural, like in the old days.

AND ABOVE ALL BAN CHEMICALS IN OUR FOOD!

Sir, food consists of chemicals - chemicals like oxidane and triglycerides. Why do you want to ban food?

Let me put it to you this way:

Ban all those unhealthy stuff like flourine, ammonia, high fructose corn syrup, (and yes they put most of that stuff in there! check the ingredients!)you get the idea.

[Conscentia]

Sir, food consists of chemicals - chemicals like oxidane and triglycerides. Why do you want to ban food?

Let me put it to you this way:

Ban all those unhealthy stuff like flourine, ammonia, high fructose corn syrup, (and yes they put most of that stuff in there! check the ingredients!)you get the idea.

Let me put it to you this way:

Study Chemistry. (Also, Biology.)
Fluorine is a mineral used by the human body to fortify teeth and bones. Fluorine deficiency can lead to osteoporosis.
Ammonia is a natural product of protein metabolism.

[Conscentia]

your awful. Go to an organic store and buy organic food. now go to mcdonalds. taste the difference?

Only because comparing a fast food place to a grocery store (organic or not) is an unfair comparison.

[Rovinionland]

your awful. Go to an organic store and buy organic food. now go to mcdonalds. taste the difference?

Only because comparing a fast food place to a grocery store (organic or not) is an unfair comparison.

exactly. my point is, the food from the organic grocery store tastes far better than mcdonalds. dont believe me, try it.

[Distruzio]

Only because comparing a fast food place to a grocery store (organic or not) is an unfair comparison.

exactly. my point is, the food from the organic grocery store tastes far better than mcdonalds. dont believe me, try it.

I have. And nothing beats McDonalds.

[Rovinionland]

Let me put it to you this way:

Ban all those unhealthy stuff like flourine, ammonia, high fructose corn syrup, (and yes they put most of that stuff in there! check the ingredients!)you get the idea.

Let me put it to you this way:

Study Chemistry. (Also, Biology.)
Fluorine is a mineral used by the human body to fortify teeth and bones. Fluorine deficiency can lead to osteoporosis.
Ammonia is a natural product of protein metabolism.

well, at least ban pesticides, herbacides and that pink slime they substitute for real meat.

[Rovinionland]

exactly. my point is, the food from the organic grocery store tastes far better than mcdonalds. dont believe me, try it.

I have. And nothing beats McDonalds.

thats because you are not only used to it, but you are brainwashed by the tv.

If you are overweight, this is why.

[Comalander]

I have. And nothing beats McDonalds.

thats because you are not only used to it, but you are brainwashed by the tv.

If you are overweight, this is why.

or OR... Or.... not everyone has the same taste preference as you.

[Occupied Deutschland]

exactly. my point is, the food from the organic grocery store tastes far better than mcdonalds. dont believe me, try it.

I have. And nothing beats McDonalds.

Wendy's beats McDonald's.

I mean, even if you don't ignore the food, the competition is between creepy pedophile clown and a dimpled redheaded girl. Seems a no-brainer.

Let me put it to you this way:

Study Chemistry. (Also, Biology.)
Fluorine is a mineral used by the human body to fortify teeth and bones. Fluorine deficiency can lead to osteoporosis.
Ammonia is a natural product of protein metabolism.

well, at least ban pesticides, herbacides and that pink slime they substitute for real meat.

What a terrible idea. Pesticides and herbicides are what provide modern food for millions of people. They're a good thing.
Pink slime is just a meat substitute/stand-in/stretching, it's not really a problem just don't eat at McDonald's.

[Rovinionland]

thats because you are not only used to it, but you are brainwashed by the tv.

If you are overweight, this is why.

or OR... Or.... not everyone has the same taste preference as you.

My point is, mcdonalds is s***. literally. pure, tasteless, unhealthy, s***.

[Rovinionland]

I have. And nothing beats McDonalds.

Wendy's beats McDonald's.

I mean, even if you don't ignore the food, the competition is between creepy pedophile clown and a dimpled redheaded girl. Seems a no-brainer.

well, at least ban pesticides, herbacides and that pink slime they substitute for real meat.

What a terrible idea. Pesticides and herbicides are what provide modern food for millions of people. They're a good thing.
Pink slime is just a meat substitute/stand-in/stretching, it's not really a problem just don't eat at McDonald's.

No their not. they are unhealthy toxins that poison your food just so farmers can sell more. take away pestacides and herbacides, our lifespans increase greatly. Pink slime is used because fast food people are too greedy and stingy to pay extra for good stuff.

[Llamalandia]

Let me put it to you this way:

Ban all those unhealthy stuff like flourine, ammonia, high fructose corn syrup, (and yes they put most of that stuff in there! check the ingredients!)you get the idea.

Let me put it to you this way:

Study Chemistry. (Also, Biology.)
Fluorine is a mineral used by the human body to fortify teeth and bones. Fluorine deficiency can lead to osteoporosis.
Ammonia is a natural product of protein metabolism.

True although the amount of Flourine matters as too much can be quite toxic, but no loevels of fluorine are quite safe.

[Rovinionland]

Let me put it to you this way:

Study Chemistry. (Also, Biology.)
Fluorine is a mineral used by the human body to fortify teeth and bones. Fluorine deficiency can lead to osteoporosis.
Ammonia is a natural product of protein metabolism.

True although the amount of Flourine matters as too much can be quite toxic, but no loevels of fluorine are quite safe.

so you shouldnt be dumping tons of it into food just because you wanna save money.

[Rovinionland]

Well there's two possible answers:
1. Mad science - divide the world into test groups and test economic models on societies like guinea pigs. (Most would find this answer unethical.)
or
A. Democracy - Let all businesses be co-ops. Co-ops are a nice option most people would be comfortable with, I imagine.

Unlike in politics, in economy the best solution is not the one that people like, it's the one which has the most private control and concurency. A community cannot control a factory, there needs to be a leader who can take the consequences and lead the factory.

hmmm... democratic factories... wonder if that would work?

[North Yakistan]

Unlike in politics, in economy the best solution is not the one that people like, it's the one which has the most private control and concurency. A community cannot control a factory, there needs to be a leader who can take the consequences and lead the factory.

hmmm... democratic factories... wonder if that would work?

Having worked in a factory (unlike most communists I've met, and Mr. Marx) I can say that running that factory through direct democracy without managers and team leads would have been disastrous. Production would have suffered significantly without accountable, knowledgeable individuals directing production, enforcing discipline, and seeing to inter-line cooperation and the ordering of neccisary materials and parts. If there was no team leads and department managers the amount of slacking and abject chaos would have been rediculous.

[ShadowDragons]

Capitalism is the best system, but we need a safety net to pull everyone up and common sense regulations. Free-market classical liberalism is my favorite, but any type of capitalism is superior to other economic systems.

Clearly you lie. In the sentence immediately preceding that statement you advocate regulations. "Free market" refers to an an unregulated market economy, as opposed to an ordinary market economy or a mixed economy.

You don't know the definition. It's where supply and demand guide prices not the government.

[ShadowDragons]

Capitalism is the best system, but we need a safety net to pull everyone up and common sense regulations. Free-market classical liberalism is my favorite, but any type of capitalism is superior to other economic systems.

Doesn't classical liberalism usually oppose a safety net?

No it's main principles are open markets and strong private property rights.

[North Yakistan]

Doesn't classical liberalism usually oppose a safety net?

No it's main principles are open markets and strong private property rights.

In a way it does. Some may advocate a small one but others believe the economic strength brought on by low taxes facilitates more charity and jobs which more efficiently replace government welfare.