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Postby Cerillium » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:15 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Cerillium wrote:I thought the Internet was created to "dumb down" the American population via YouTube cat videos. :p


I'm willing to bet ARPANET was created for the sole purpose of sharing cat pictures and emoticons over the university networks :p

Shhh. No one is supposed to know that.
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:15 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Cerillium wrote:I thought the Internet was created to "dumb down" the American population via YouTube cat videos. :p


I'm willing to bet ARPANET was created for the sole purpose of sharing cat pictures and emoticons over the university networks :p

The internet was made as a method of population control.

I don't think the world will have any sperm left in 20 years.
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

........fuck it, you win the internet.

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Postby CTALNH » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:16 am

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
I'm willing to bet ARPANET was created for the sole purpose of sharing cat pictures and emoticons over the university networks :p

The internet was made as a method of population control.

I don't think the world will have any sperm left in 20 years.

Men can't jack off that fast.
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:18 am

CTALNH wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:The internet was made as a method of population control.

I don't think the world will have any sperm left in 20 years.

Men can't jack off that fast.

Ha, noob
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

........fuck it, you win the internet.

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Postby Breadknife » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:20 am

Avenio wrote:The internet wasn't a CIA project, but computers were.
Computers were invented by the UK's Government Code And Cypher School, thus are more likely an SIS-cum-MI6 conspiracy. (They'd tried it earlier, but Babbage refused to insert the monitoring cogs, so the secretive forerunner to the Department of Topography & Statistics cleverly manipulated him to go-slow instead, so that if they couldn't get in from the start, nobody could.) Of course there was also Konrad Zuse, for Germany's Air Ministry, but history (and idiots at the top) intervened.

The Yanks then stole a march on that idea, which is why one or other arm of British Intelligence teamed up with Switzerland's Postal Service and Telecommunications Surveillance to get their patst, Tim Berners Lee, to freely release "The Web", to compete against the CIA/University of Minnesota joint attempt to get people to use Gopher. The NSA was behind AOL, the FBI behind Facebook (very unimaginatively) and New Zealand Intelligence Corps actually got behind Megaupload.

The Illuminati was origally behind all of Usenet, although they did a deal with the Church of Scientology, so that they each controlled (and monitored at a deep-net level) everything on alternate days.

Other agencies who had tried similar things were the Finnish Intelligence Research Establishment (the real people behind anon.penet.fi) and some guy in a volcano who controlled FidoNet, and thus all Bulletin Board Systems.

Better go build a Faraday cage in your basement, OP.
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Postby CTALNH » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:21 am

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CTALNH wrote:Men can't jack off that fast.

Ha, noob

Please I am master in jacking off but even I have limits.
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Postby TBA Field Marshal » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:22 am

Probably.

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Postby -The West Coast- » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:24 am

"This idea has gained traction since the leaks of Edward Snowden."

Edward Snowden is a treasonous bastard. He deserves life imprisonment in the highest security prison on Earth for what he did to his countrymen. Nobody should listen to his disgusting words.
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:26 am

CTALNH wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ha, noob

Please I am master in jacking off but even I have limits.

Then you are clearly not a master.

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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

........fuck it, you win the internet.

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Postby CTALNH » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:27 am

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Please I am master in jacking off but even I have limits.

Then you are clearly not a master.

By the age of 25, a man should be able to impregnate a planet and call the moons his sons.

No. Also not funny.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:27 am

CTALNH wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ha, noob

Please I am master in jacking off but even I have limits.


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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:30 am

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Please I am master in jacking off but even I have limits.

Then you are clearly not a master.

By the age of 25, a man should be able to impregnate a planet and call the moons his sons.

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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:51 am

Imperial Tevinter wrote:China already has its awed "Great Firewall" though I'm not totally sure if thats the same as what Putin is potentially proposing.


China's "Great Firewall" is what it is. A wall that prevents Chinese internet users from accessing internet content that isn't government sanctioned.

So would it be beneficial to segment the internet for the sake of national security, this is the question.


Let's put it this way: Russia isn't under threat from external sources. However, a separate internet service away from prying eyes would allow the Russian government to fully spy on online dissenters without anyone outside of Russia batting an eyelid. Already, the founder of Russia's largest social networking website is on the run for failing to provide the Russian security forces with personal details of its users.

EDIT: If the Internet is indeed a CIA project, then I recognize that this is probably being monitored. Please be aware that if you post it is possible that American intelligence is recording it. I think its worth the risk though to have a discussion.


And what are you worried about exactly? What laws are you breaking? You're discussing the apparent new-found insanity of Russia's president. Maybe you get a letter in the mail or an email for a job offer by the US government to go around parroting what the state departments wants people to believe on internet forums, or go around liking American government pages on Facebook.

No one's breaking the law by mentioning the CIA and some sort of inane conspiracy theory.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:54 am

CTALNH wrote:
The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ha, noob

Please I am master in jacking off but even I have limits.


And this is how Greek yogurt is made.
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Postby CTALNH » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:57 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Please I am master in jacking off but even I have limits.


And this is how Greek yogurt is made.

You wouldn't believe how true that statement is.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:58 am

CTALNH wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
And this is how Greek yogurt is made.

You wouldn't believe how true that statement is.

Out of amazement or horror?
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

........fuck it, you win the internet.

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Postby The Victorian Empire » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:59 am

Putin knows it's not, he's just trolling now. He loves trolling the West. You know, because we're so easy to troll.
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Postby CTALNH » Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:59 am

The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:
CTALNH wrote:You wouldn't believe how true that statement is.

Out of amazement or horror?

Your choice.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
Economic Left/Right: -9.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.64
Lawful Neutral/Lawful Evil half and half.
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Postby Valica » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:17 am

Everyone should look into and support the Bitcloud project.

Free node-to-node "internet" where traffic through a node results in a portion of a specific crypto-currency being paid to the owner of the node.
This crypto-currency can then be used to gain services on a Bitcloud "marketplace".

As someone working closely with the developers, this is how I understand it.
That being said, I could be a little off base, so read the nontechnical white papers.

They are working on a prototype right now and it's looking promising.
Similar projects have already been successful, but none have been as full-featured as Bitcloud.
The basic premise of P2P internet access has already been proven to work before.

And the best part is full encryption of data being put through nodes, so nobody can see what is going back and forth.
It's as if you have a proxy on at all times.
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Postby Bythyrona » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:32 am

-The West Coast- wrote:"This idea has gained traction since the leaks of Edward Snowden."

Edward Snowden is a treasonous bastard. He deserves life imprisonment in the highest security prison on Earth for what he did to his countrymen. Nobody should listen to his disgusting words.

Yep. There's a reason some shit is classified, to put it lightly... it's about protection of sources (a good deal of those sources being human beings who people like Snowden endanger), not necessarily the information that we have.

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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:36 am

Bythyrona wrote:
-The West Coast- wrote:"This idea has gained traction since the leaks of Edward Snowden."

Edward Snowden is a treasonous bastard. He deserves life imprisonment in the highest security prison on Earth for what he did to his countrymen. Nobody should listen to his disgusting words.

Yep. There's a reason some shit is classified, to put it lightly... it's about protection of sources (a good deal of those sources being human beings who people like Snowden endanger), not necessarily the information that we have.

A fucking traitor IT nerd is a hero. I love the media. (BREAKING NEWS: CNN STOPS COVERING FLIGHT 370 24/7)

Take it away, H.W.: https://archive.org/details/George_H_W_ ... s_Traitors

Depends on the media.

Its more of an ends and means discussion IMO,
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The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace wrote:Ironic ain't it, now there really IS 47% of the country that feels like victims.

........fuck it, you win the internet.

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Postby Ixi » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:36 am

The internet is a NSA project and so is Facebook and nationstates and Wikipedia they are all nsa projects

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Postby Thafoo » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:44 am

I wonder what the CIA thinks of how I'm utilizing the "Incognito Mode" of their project.

Plot Twist: Incognito actually collects more data to send to the government than non-Incognito.
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Postby The Re-Frisivisiaing » Fri Apr 25, 2014 5:54 am

I think that's fair.
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Postby Viritica » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:05 am

So... this means that the government's been watching me while I surf the internet...

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