Is the Internet a CIA project?

by **The Sotoan Union** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:20 pm

Fools! It is, created by Nixon himself. You've all been his puppets!

by **Blazedtown** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:20 pm

The Sotoan Union wrote:Fools! It is, created by Nixon himself. you've all been his puppets!

I'm pretty sure Mike's not old enough to have invented the internet.

by **Horizont** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:21 pm

Tin-foil hat time again.

by **Infected Mushroom** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:22 pm

Imperial Tevinter wrote:So yesterday President Putin blasted the internet as a "CIA Project".
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/a ... ternet-cia

There is a growing consensus that the internet may in fact have an ulterior purpose for the purpose of espionage. This idea has gained traction since the leaks of Edward Snowden.

So what do we do?

The Guardian seems to think that President Putin may seek to dismantle the interwebz of Russia and create a purely Russian alternative to what is today know as the global internet. Apparently Germany and Brazil are thinking of similiar ideas. China already has its awed "Great Firewall" though I'm not totally sure if thats the same as what Putin is potentially proposing. North Korea also has an national intranet I believe..

So would it be beneficial to segment the internet for the sake of national security, this is the question.

EDIT: If the Internet is indeed a CIA project, then I recognize that this is probably being monitored. Please be aware that if you post it is possible that American intelligence is recording it. I think its worth the risk though to have a discussion.

if it was at any single point in history exclusively a CIA project we are way past that point now, the internet is so much more...

by **Fesconia** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:24 pm

The Internet is NOT a CIA project. It's just not possible. Such a huge data network cannot be monitored completely by the CIA. It's just not possible.

by **Northwest Slobovia** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:26 pm

Imperial Tevinter wrote:So yesterday President Putin blasted the internet as a "CIA Project".
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/a ... ternet-cia

There is a growing consensus that the internet may in fact have an ulterior purpose for the purpose of espionage. This idea has gained traction since the leaks of Edward Snowden.

...among whom? :eyebrow:

by **Blazedtown** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:27 pm

Northwest Slobovia wrote:
Imperial Tevinter wrote:So yesterday President Putin blasted the internet as a "CIA Project".
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/a ... ternet-cia

There is a growing consensus that the internet may in fact have an ulterior purpose for the purpose of espionage. This idea has gained traction since the leaks of Edward Snowden.

...among whom?

The voices in his head.

by **Nervium** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:28 pm

Fesconia wrote:The Internet is NOT a CIA project. It's just not possible. Such a huge data network cannot be monitored completely by the CIA. It's just not possible.

Unless... One in seven is a CIA agent... On the planet...

Trustno1

by **Northwest Slobovia** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:28 pm

Fesconia wrote:The Internet is NOT a CIA project. It's just not possible. Such a huge data network cannot be monitored completely by the CIA. It's just not possible.

Right. They do HUMINT. ELINT/SIGINT is NSA.

by **Fesconia** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:34 pm

Nervium wrote:
Fesconia wrote:The Internet is NOT a CIA project. It's just not possible. Such a huge data network cannot be monitored completely by the CIA. It's just not possible.

Unless... One in seven is a CIA agent... On the planet...

Trustno1

Then that means one in seven of the people on this forum are CIA agents.

by **Cu Math** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:35 pm

Technically semi-true. The internet started as Arpanet under DARPA and with some input from the CIA as a way to facilitate government info sharing. But as of now, no it isn't.

by **Death Metal** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:37 pm

No, it's a DARPA project.

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by **Soldati Senza Confini** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:38 pm

Death Metal wrote:No, it's a DARPA project.

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This.

by **Nervium** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:38 pm

Fesconia wrote:
Nervium wrote:
Unless... One in seven is a CIA agent... On the planet...

Trustno1

Then that means one in seven of the people on this forum are CIA agents.

Yes.

by **Indira** » Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:04 pm

Imperial Tevinter wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:If that's anything more than nonsense spouted by an ex-KGB officer, that's a mindfuck.

I think it has some credence

Certainly it has credence. The same amount of credence that I would put on this working. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf00mEe9EOs

by **Breadknife** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:12 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:No one's breaking the law by mentioning the CIA and some sort of inane conspiracy theory.

Just don't mention the No Such Agency...

(whoops...)

by **Murkwood** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:14 pm

Some better tell Tim Bernes-Lee that.

by **Divair2** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:18 pm

No. Putin is doing this to justify censorship.

by **Kyuji** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:18 pm

No , it's not a CIA project but facebook is.

by **Kola Republic** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:19 pm

Imperial Tevinter wrote:
The ivain isles wrote:No, but I'm seriously beginning to think Putin might be...

Of course.
An enemy created to give a sense of struggle to the world, thus solidifying the purpose of the CIA and the MIC. Americans weren't gonna be satisfied shooting mud huts with sky robots. We needed a real adversary and here it is. The Great Bear has risen again! WAR IS PEACE

I see it. I don't agree, but I see it.

No, it's a Tim Berners-Lee Intelligence Agency project.
And why are you spewing anti-American bullshit, 'cause you heard about how the Stone Age religious oppressors, all 500 million of them, were shot from 60,000 feet with a giant MQ-70000 World Devastator drone armed with nuclear cruise missiles by the ebil USA?

by **The United Earth Conclave** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:20 pm

So sayeth the Putin bible

by **Blazedtown** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:20 pm

Kyuji wrote:No , it's not a CIA project but facebook is.

I could see Facebook being an NSA project more than CIA. Facebook is just a way to get people to make private information available to everyone.

by **LiamHerndon** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:21 pm

Although the internet is very possibly being monitored by the CIA, it would be going quite far to say that that is the only motive.

Also, I would like to wish any CIA agent monitoring this a good day.

by **Kola Republic** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:22 pm

Divair2 wrote:No. Putin is doing this to justify censorship.

^This. Putin wants to recreate the Great Wall of Russia...as the Great Firewall of Russia!
oh wait...Russia has no firewalls, just snow demons.
"Do not worry, the CIA project to get the world burning a trillion tons of fossil fuels is underway. Russia's great snow demon army shall fall! MWAAHAHAHAHAHAGAHAAAAAAAA!"

by **Breadknife** » Sat Apr 26, 2014 2:22 pm

The Lunar Domain wrote:Another thing is that any organization CANNOT plausibly monitor every single bit of information on the internet. If that was possible, they would somehow be monitoring over five million terabytes of data, (the figure's from the CEO of Google, who gave an estimate) and even if they managed to accomplish that, imagine how much work would need to be done to keep up with the thousands upon thousands of bytes that are added every minute to the Internet.

Semi-relevent... (Food for thought, rather than any particular point. Especially when it comes to imagining such quantities as punched cards.)

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