Crap, I had him mixed up with someone else. Never mind. Anyway, I don't know why he's being called racist.
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by Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:32 pm

by Saetia Omega » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:33 pm

by Nazi Flower Power » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:48 pm
Geilinor wrote:Nazi Flower Power wrote:Several years ago, I heard of a study that showed African-Americans were more likely than white Americans to believe in innate racial differences. However, I am not sure if I can find it again or if it has been discredited by more recent research. I have to agree with Sun Wukong's point about ethnic groups whose response to outsiders is to shoot them on sight. African-American culture does have a really unhealthy fixation on race, but it's not the only culture that is like that. It's open to discussion why African-American culture is like that in the first place and what, if anything, should be done about it.
African-American culture is like that because it was a point of unity in the face of discrimination.

by Nazi Flower Power » Sat Apr 26, 2014 5:53 pm
Saetia Omega wrote:Of course Black People can be racist! If you are human, you are capable of judging or discriminating against others due to Race. Being racist doesn't make you A Racist. At risk of sounding like Avenue Q, we're all a bit Racist. I have let the N-Bomb slip, doesn't mean I wave a Swastika, burn Crosses, or chant "Heil Hitler!"

by Wind in the Willows » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:41 pm
Saetia Omega wrote:Of course Black People can be racist! If you are human, you are capable of judging or discriminating against others due to Race. Being racist doesn't make you A Racist. At risk of sounding like Avenue Q, we're all a bit Racist. I have let the N-Bomb slip, doesn't mean I wave a Swastika, burn Crosses, or chant "Heil Hitler!"

by Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:57 pm
Wind in the Willows wrote:Saetia Omega wrote:Of course Black People can be racist! If you are human, you are capable of judging or discriminating against others due to Race. Being racist doesn't make you A Racist. At risk of sounding like Avenue Q, we're all a bit Racist. I have let the N-Bomb slip, doesn't mean I wave a Swastika, burn Crosses, or chant "Heil Hitler!"
Oh finally someone intelligent in this thread.

by Dyakovo » Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:15 pm
Saetia Omega wrote:Being racist doesn't make you A Racist.

by Spartan Philidelphia » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:34 am

by Common Territories » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:08 pm

by Yumyumsuppertime » Sun Apr 27, 2014 3:34 pm
Common Territories wrote:I have met racists all over the spectrum. The worst being a white kid who hated blacks just because... well... he is a moron and enjoys starting (then getting his butt kicked by said) black kids. But the most racists I have ever met have been blacks who hated whites.
Most of which were ignorant morons themselves and hated whites either because A: They think because they're black, they have the right to be civil rights immune -- meaning they have the authority to judge who's racist and why because they can't be... because they're black.
And B: because they think they have to hate whites because they're blacks.
Now that is a pretty general make up of the black racists I have met; generally they assume because they're black, they can't be racists,
and that because im white I am a racist for the smallest thing.
With all of this being said, I have black friends
who are so race neutral that they have encouraged me to use the N word,
explain the use of it and admit it being not racist anymore (using it correctly anyways -- you know what I mean)
and who is pretty friendly to racial jokes/instances of race.
Racism has happily died down to low levels in these times
and I hope it dies completely -- those small town racists and large ignorant racists out there will hopefully not spread their view of hate and discrimination into the future.

by Common Territories » Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:41 pm
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Common Territories wrote:
Way to edit and break down a line from my post, why not post that entire sentence there next time? Or maybe quote properly? You know, so you don't get caught like this again.
I didn't post it because I wanted to save my liver in the "Racist conversation on NSG" drinking game. But if you insist.....Common Territories wrote:I have met racists all over the spectrum. The worst being a white kid who hated blacks just because... well... he is a moron and enjoys starting (then getting his butt kicked by said) black kids. But the most racists I have ever met have been blacks who hated whites.
Insinuation that black people are more racist than white people without any context. Drink!Most of which were ignorant morons themselves and hated whites either because A: They think because they're black, they have the right to be civil rights immune -- meaning they have the authority to judge who's racist and why because they can't be... because they're black.
Ignorant assumption regarding why some black people are racially prejudiced against whites, with no sources to back the point. Drink!And B: because they think they have to hate whites because they're blacks.
Ibid. Drink!Now that is a pretty general make up of the black racists I have met; generally they assume because they're black, they can't be racists,
Anecdotal evidence meant to be convincing. Drink!and that because im white I am a racist for the smallest thing.
Complaint that black people overreact to "the smallest thing" being racist without saying exactly what that was, or the context in which it was said, written, performed, or otherwise came to their attention. Drink!With all of this being said, I have black friends
"I have a black friend/black friends." Drink!who are so race neutral that they have encouraged me to use the N word,
"I have N-word privileges." Two drinks!explain the use of it and admit it being not racist anymore (using it correctly anyways -- you know what I mean)
Anecdotal evidence of one or a few people stating something as being representative of the entire race. Drink!
and who is pretty friendly to racial jokes/instances of race.
No drinking here, but is it a black friend or black friends? You switched from the plural to the singular.Racism has happily died down to low levels in these times
Assertion without evidence. Drink!and I hope it dies completely -- those small town racists and large ignorant racists out there will hopefully not spread their view of hate and discrimination into the future.
String of defensive statements and unconsciously racist ones followed by an appeal to our better nature. Dr--hey, where'd all the alcohol go?
You owe me a new liver.

by Yumyumsuppertime » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:09 pm
Common Territories wrote:Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
I didn't post it because I wanted to save my liver in the "Racist conversation on NSG" drinking game. But if you insist.....
Insinuation that black people are more racist than white people without any context. Drink!
Ignorant assumption regarding why some black people are racially prejudiced against whites, with no sources to back the point. Drink!
Ibid. Drink!
Anecdotal evidence meant to be convincing. Drink!
Complaint that black people overreact to "the smallest thing" being racist without saying exactly what that was, or the context in which it was said, written, performed, or otherwise came to their attention. Drink!
"I have a black friend/black friends." Drink!
"I have N-word privileges." Two drinks!
Anecdotal evidence of one or a few people stating something as being representative of the entire race. Drink!
No drinking here, but is it a black friend or black friends? You switched from the plural to the singular.
Assertion without evidence. Drink!
String of defensive statements and unconsciously racist ones followed by an appeal to our better nature. Dr--hey, where'd all the alcohol go?
You owe me a new liver.
Oh, you're a cute little smart mouth. Lets address this A-K:
A: I never implied one race is more racist. I states that both races, and all races of all kinds, can share in racist behavior. Racism is not bound to one race or the other.
B: Do you want me to Google a list of articles from web sources to blog posts to even news stories? Well too bad because I wont nor do I need to. The logic behind me providing "sources" for my brief explanation into my daily life is unsound. My entire post was stated early on (and if you didn't get it by the end, you are dense) that these were personal references into my life; a life that was spent in largely minority neighborhoods, poor neighborhoods, rich neighborhoods, and largely white neighborhoods. I am not saying I grew up in the most ghetto places in the country nor the worst either. Once again though; I will not dig deep into my life to provide you with "sources". Unless you want me to write a 400 page book on a days I have had, which include sights, thoughts, interactions, dreams, and various other crap. Which I hardly doubt you would even bother to believe. But let me states this as well: I couldn't give slightest crap if you believe me on what I write; it's your choice to believe whatever I say and if you accept my views -- and testimonies of experiences that I have been part of. To pretty much end this part: I wont Google you a list of crap sources; I wont dig deep into my personal life, typing it away on the internet for all to see; and I could care less if you want to accept my views, believe what I say, or if you believe me on my views -- its your choice to believe them or if you want to continue calling me ignorant or "unconsciously racist".
C: If you have never met an ignorant black man who has acted in hate towards whites because of slavery and civil rights issues then you either don't get out much or you're lucky. I have met plenty who made jokes lightheartedly about the issues and some who were seriously racist because of the bad history between blacks and whites in this country (USA). Like I said above; if you don't believe me I couldn't care less -- but I have met these people and have seen them, if you haven't then good fortune has been with you. As I stated above as well; this is not only limited to blacks v. whites -- I have witnessed other races who have the same view on another race based on history.
D: Like I said before: My post is about my personal experiences. If you believe it or not, that is up to you. I know what I say is the truth but if you wanna believe it isn't, go right ahead being a negative nancy. The whole point of these threads is to state your opinion and experiences; im not gonna post you news stories; im not going to post homemade films to prove my experiences and behaviors. Tough luck if you think I have to go to such extensive work to prove what I've seen and experiences; I don't have to nor will I.
E: Either you have never met these types of people, or you've never participated in activities with other races. I can remember at least three instances offhand that I have said something, or done something, that have caused some sort of racist thought (hey look! Another one since you called me racist). I've seen plenty more instances of this because I actually try not to be offensive to other people by avoiding hurting their feelings or offending them. I'll refer you to above for the rest, since im far to lazy to repeat myself on providing you video evidence of my life.
F: Once again you are editing that quote down so that you can make me look bad. Here, let me show you (since your English teachers failed their jobs) how to quote people. "With all of this being said, I have black friends who are so race neutral that they have encouraged me to use the N word, explain the use of it and admit it being not racist anymore (using it correctly anyways -- you know what I mean), and who is pretty friendly to racial jokes/instances of race." Granted, I am human and can make grammatical mistakes; especially in posts like the one we're quoting from where I did not double check my writing. But the fact you refuse to use the whole quote or grammar devices to show you are picking and choosing shows your true nature. To address the actual quote now: I have friends of many races -- blacks being one of them. So what of it? Go ahead and drink another shot if you'd like but I am by no mean using the excuse that "I have black friends, so I can't be racist"; I have never used it and it is no excuse to prove in not having ever committed any racist actions or behaviors -- which im all are we have done at some point by mistake, myself included.
G: Refer to F about how you are breaking up sentences wrongly in quotes. Funny enough that this is from the same sentence which you could have saved yourself space by posting in one quote. Anyways. I could have come off saying this better, which I admit I did not. I did not fully explain this but I don't use the N word regularly now. When all my friends were black at one time as a kid, and when (I explained this already in that quote, but they egged me on to saying "Nigga" because they were both cool with it and they wanted me to use it) I was used to talking in the same format as them, I did use the word at times. I do not however use it anymore since moving from a different town and some finding it offensive. Go ahead and call it racist but every single black person I know uses that word and have stated to me on plenty of occasions that it is not racist and to them means: "Ignorant motha-f****a" as one black friend explained.
H: Refer to G for most of this. Which im pretty sure you're out of touch with the happenings with the term "Nigga" since you don't seem to see/hear it ever used. Go right ahead and call me racist on this one if you'd like; I know some mite be offended by it but I know and do not use it as offensive speech -- on here or in RL. I am simply stating realist experiences that have showed me that term, not the full N word, is not considered offensive to many blacks these days. Do I think that represents the entire black race? No. Never did and I don't think it should represent the entire race for the majority to think one way on it. Some will find it offensive and others wont; simply as that.
I: I have friends on all racial boundaries that enjoy racial jokes. When the joke is made lightheartedly and for the purpose of being funny. I to be honest hear few white ones but the ones I do know are hilarious. The point is here that we all enjoy a joke, racial or not, that is funny and meant to simply be a joke.
J: If I am wrong about racism being down in America then prove me wrong (hypocritical of me I know but I have a point here I swear). What US law protects and promotes racism? What popular news sources promote racist stories? What shows promote racism as policy? Even if you provide "sources", the fact is that a far majority of people in the country are not racist anymore or hold views that are racist; racism being that of actual hate of serious intentions. If you want to make a source now and here, make a poll stating yes or no if people are racist. The fact is that today, thanks to education and cultural changes, racism has died down and changed in many cases.
K: So. What is wrong with me hoping that racism is exterminated as a viewpoint? I cannot fathom a reason why that makes me racist or that it is defensive for me to wish for racism to be gone.
On the bottom note of this post. I would like to protest your calling me a racist, which is untrue and uncalled for, and that I do not owe you squat. If you want to take shots at stuff on the internet, go right ahead and make an excuse to be an alcoholic.
must have been posted by someone else, then. I do apologize.But the most racists I have ever met have been blacks who hated whites.

by The Polarian Empire » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:11 pm
TheTechnically Insane wrote:Just honestly curious if anyone else has thought about this, and realized how bad it is.
A black man can say "Black Power!" or "Black Pride!" and get support.
I as a white man could say "White Pride!" and be considered a racist.
BlackPeopleMeet.com isn't racist, although if I were to make a WhitePeopleMeet.com, I can almost guarantee that a LOT of African Americans would petition to get the website taken down.
BET. Black Entertainment Channel. If anyone were to try to make a White Entertainment Channel, the FCC wouldn't allow it. It would be considered Racist and Offensive.
Anyone else notice this major problem?
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by Wind in the Willows » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:16 pm
The Polarian Empire wrote:TheTechnically Insane wrote:Just honestly curious if anyone else has thought about this, and realized how bad it is.
A black man can say "Black Power!" or "Black Pride!" and get support.
I as a white man could say "White Pride!" and be considered a racist.
BlackPeopleMeet.com isn't racist, although if I were to make a WhitePeopleMeet.com, I can almost guarantee that a LOT of African Americans would petition to get the website taken down.
BET. Black Entertainment Channel. If anyone were to try to make a White Entertainment Channel, the FCC wouldn't allow it. It would be considered Racist and Offensive.
Anyone else notice this major problem?
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by Bezombia » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:17 pm
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Fordorsia wrote:mfw Beano is my dad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSWiMoO8zNE
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies

by Liriena » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:18 pm
Wind in the Willows wrote:Saetia Omega wrote:Of course Black People can be racist! If you are human, you are capable of judging or discriminating against others due to Race. Being racist doesn't make you A Racist. At risk of sounding like Avenue Q, we're all a bit Racist. I have let the N-Bomb slip, doesn't mean I wave a Swastika, burn Crosses, or chant "Heil Hitler!"
Oh finally someone intelligent in this thread.
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by Liriena » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:18 pm
Wind in the Willows wrote:Why does the Black Entertainment Channel exist?
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by Wind in the Willows » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:20 pm

by The Re-Frisivisiaing » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:20 pm

by Bezombia » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:21 pm
Sauritican wrote:We've all been spending too much time with Ben
Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Fordorsia wrote:mfw Beano is my dad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSWiMoO8zNE
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
Sediczja wrote:real eyes realize real lies

by The Re-Frisivisiaing » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:21 pm

by Liriena » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:21 pm
Wind in the Willows wrote:And he also has a point regarding the dating site thing, I haven't seen any dedicated websites for whites, even though ones exist for blacks, asians and any other race or whatever out there.
Explain this shit.
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