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Postby Vettrera » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:08 pm

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Vettrera wrote:So do you now prefer white people to black people, and generalize, or do you not care?


Yes, I do. Most of the White People I meet are very accepting, stark contrast to the Blacks i meet.

So you are a racist, and think racism is ok. That makes this easier.

Please do not complain anymore about how "blacks" treat you since the feeling you hold is mutual.
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Postby Dyakovo » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:08 pm

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Merizoc wrote:Very few people in the thread (if any) are saying that this is right, but that it is. It's a bullshit feature of our society, but it exists nonetheless.



Wait, so this goes beyond single parentship? Even if I had a father a white kid would still be more fortunate than me in certain aeras?

Unfortunately, yes.
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Viritica wrote:African Americans are thrown in jail more because they commit more crime.

Yeah. Right.
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Postby Northern Oomphalis » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:08 pm

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Soldati senza confini wrote:
For me EVERYONE confuses me as being homosexual.

I don't particularly give that much of a shit either.

I've been constantly asked about my sexuality too...don't give two shits either :)


Sir, I think people that discriminate against gays are wrong, Sir. Sir, I wish you to have an excellent day, Sir. Sir, goodbye, Sir .

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:09 pm

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Vettrera wrote:I've been constantly asked about my sexuality too...don't give two shits either :)

I've found that after coming out of the closet, people are much less willing to use the word "Gay" as an insult.


I'm actually pretty heterosexual thank you :p
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Postby Viritica » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:09 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Viritica wrote:Enormous disadvantage how, exactly?

Be more specific.


Fair question, and fair demand.

Black people tend to face significant barriers to employment due to a tendency to be convicted of crimes more often. While black people do tend to commit certain types of crimes more often then white people, once socioeconomic factors are taken into consideration, the incarceration rate shows an obvious bias against black people. Even in the absence of a criminal record, merely having a name that seems "black sounding" to recruiters can cause one to be ignored in favor of someone with equivalent experience and a "white sounding" name.

Additionally, black students have a tendency to come from poorer backgrounds, to be raised in environments less conducive to learning due to said backgrounds, and to attend less well-run and well-funded schools.

Shall I continue?

I feel it's worth noting your first link basically talks about how both white and black males with criminal records are less likely to be hired for a job. While this certainly isn't a good thing, you must ask yourself... if you were a business owner who would you hire? Jimmy with the perfectly clean record or Bob, the convicted murderer?

Your second link is the HuffPo, a site with liberal bias. Sorry, but no.

I must ask you, do you even know what these "black sounding names are"? I do, they're ridiculous and made up names like Neaquan, Deaquan, Alquan, Waysia, Cashe, I could go on. They're names given to individuals who typically grow up in low-income crime ridden neighborhoods. If you want your child to have the best possible life they can... why would you make up such ridiculous names?

Blacks have a tendency to live in less well off neighborhoods. Less well off neighborhoods tend to have schools with poor funding. I do agree with you on that one, the educational system needs a complete reform.
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:09 pm

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Vettrera wrote:So do you now prefer white people to black people, and generalize, or do you not care?


Yes, I do. Most of the White People I meet are very accepting, stark contrast to the Blacks i meet.

No, you just have a different idea of what's socially acceptable than they do. I saw it all the time at school. The blacks and whites didn't really hang out together much because both groups acted differently, spoke differently,etc.

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Postby Vettrera » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:10 pm

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Vettrera wrote:I've been constantly asked about my sexuality too...don't give two shits either :)


Sir, I think people that discriminate against gays are wrong, Sir. Sir, I wish you to have an excellent day, Sir. Sir, goodbye, Sir .

I never said I was gay. But ok.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:10 pm

Merizoc wrote:No, you just have a different idea of what's socially acceptable than they do. I saw it all the time at school. The blacks and whites didn't really hang out together much because both groups acted differently, spoke differently,etc.


Yeah that's socioeconomic.
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Postby Ixzara » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:11 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Ixzara wrote:I've found that after coming out of the closet, people are much less willing to use the word "Gay" as an insult.


I'm actually pretty heterosexual thank you :p

I actually am gay. I can only think of one occasion where someone tried to call me "faggot". Then I kicked their ass. Twice.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:12 pm

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Nazis are not racist because we are not in power. Cool beans.


By the definition people were explaining, no they are not (they were when in Germany during the 1940s). They are however bigots.


It's a bullshit definition because if you ask people, including the ones who say blacks can't be racist because they don't have power, "Are Nazis racist?" nobody except a Nazi will say no. Nazis will sometimes say yes, sometimes no, and when they do say no, the reason will not be, "because we have no power." A Nazi who claims not to be racist will say they are not racist because they believe everyone should have equal rights, but they just want the races to live in separate countries.
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Postby Northern Oomphalis » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:12 pm

Vettrera wrote:
Northern Oomphalis wrote:
Sir, I think people that discriminate against gays are wrong, Sir. Sir, I wish you to have an excellent day, Sir. Sir, goodbye, Sir .

I never said I was gay. But ok.
Looks like everyone made a bit of a leap :P



Sir, I am glad to head that. Sir, please accept my humblest apology if I have offended in you in the slightest way, Sir.

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Postby Draica » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:12 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Draica wrote:

What system? Innercity schools?

The one that I previously described.

Many of them grew up in poverty, and unfortunately, their parents didn't teach them the importance of education, so a lot of them didn't try hard in school, and ended up dropping out. Then since they didn't get a full education, they in turn become poor, and the cycle repeats.



Thankfully I don't live in a poor aera(middle class isn't poor to me..) and I have no plans on dropping out. I'l just have to tone all these unfortunate issues out until they hit me hard, then I'l deal with them.

Until then, it'd impact me so much if I constantly worried myself about these issues.
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Postby Draica » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:13 pm

Merizoc wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:
Yes, I do. Most of the White People I meet are very accepting, stark contrast to the Blacks i meet.

No, you just have a different idea of what's socially acceptable than they do. I saw it all the time at school. The blacks and whites didn't really hang out together much because both groups acted differently, spoke differently,etc.




..How unfortunate. Almost all my friends are white.
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Postby Vettrera » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:13 pm

Northern Oomphalis wrote:
Vettrera wrote:I never said I was gay. But ok.
Looks like everyone made a bit of a leap :P



Sir, I am glad to head that. Sir, please accept my humblest apology if I have offended in you in the slightest way, Sir.

You have not sir.
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:13 pm

Viritica wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Fair question, and fair demand.

Black people tend to face significant barriers to employment due to a tendency to be convicted of crimes more often. While black people do tend to commit certain types of crimes more often then white people, once socioeconomic factors are taken into consideration, the incarceration rate shows an obvious bias against black people. Even in the absence of a criminal record, merely having a name that seems "black sounding" to recruiters can cause one to be ignored in favor of someone with equivalent experience and a "white sounding" name.

Additionally, black students have a tendency to come from poorer backgrounds, to be raised in environments less conducive to learning due to said backgrounds, and to attend less well-run and well-funded schools.

Shall I continue?

I feel it's worth noting your first link basically talks about how both white and black males with criminal records are less likely to be hired for a job. While this certainly isn't a good thing, you must ask yourself... if you were a business owner who would you hire? Jimmy with the perfectly clean record or Bob, the convicted murderer?

Your second link is the HuffPo, a site with liberal bias. Sorry, but no.

I must ask you, do you even know what these "black sounding names are"? I do, they're ridiculous and made up names like Neaquan, Deaquan, Alquan, Waysia, Cashe, I could go on. They're names given to individuals who typically grow up in low-income crime ridden neighborhoods. If you want your child to have the best possible life they can... why would you make up such ridiculous names?

Blacks have a tendency to live in less well off neighborhoods. Less well off neighborhoods tend to have schools with poor funding. I do agree with you on that one, the educational system needs a complete reform.

First off, HuffPo is fine to cite. So is Fox news. Secondly, who are you to say what someone can and can't name their kid. That's pretty offensive and bigoted.

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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:14 pm

Viritica wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Fair question, and fair demand.

Black people tend to face significant barriers to employment due to a tendency to be convicted of crimes more often. While black people do tend to commit certain types of crimes more often then white people, once socioeconomic factors are taken into consideration, the incarceration rate shows an obvious bias against black people. Even in the absence of a criminal record, merely having a name that seems "black sounding" to recruiters can cause one to be ignored in favor of someone with equivalent experience and a "white sounding" name.

Additionally, black students have a tendency to come from poorer backgrounds, to be raised in environments less conducive to learning due to said backgrounds, and to attend less well-run and well-funded schools.

Shall I continue?

I feel it's worth noting your first link basically talks about how both white and black males with criminal records are less likely to be hired for a job. While this certainly isn't a good thing, you must ask yourself... if you were a business owner who would you hire? Jimmy with the perfectly clean record or Bob, the convicted murderer?

Your second link is the HuffPo, a site with liberal bias. Sorry, but no.

I must ask you, do you even know what these "black sounding names are"? I do, they're ridiculous and made up names like Neaquan, Deaquan, Alquan, Waysia, Cashe, I could go on. They're names given to individuals who typically grow up in low-income crime ridden neighborhoods. If you want your child to have the best possible life they can... why would you make up such ridiculous names?

Blacks have a tendency to live in less well off neighborhoods. Less well off neighborhoods tend to have schools with poor funding. I do agree with you on that one, the educational system needs a complete reform.


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TheTechnically Insane wrote:Just honestly curious if anyone else has thought about this, and realized how bad it is.
A black man can say "Black Power!" or "Black Pride!" and get support.
I as a white man could say "White Pride!" and be considered a racist.

BlackPeopleMeet.com isn't racist, although if I were to make a WhitePeopleMeet.com, I can almost guarantee that a LOT of African Americans would petition to get the website taken down.

BET. Black Entertainment Channel. If anyone were to try to make a White Entertainment Channel, the FCC wouldn't allow it. It would be considered Racist and Offensive.
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:15 pm

Northern Oomphalis wrote:
Vettrera wrote:I never said I was gay. But ok.
Looks like everyone made a bit of a leap :P



Sir, I am glad to head that. Sir, please accept my humblest apology if I have offended in you in the slightest way, Sir.

Y'know, on the internet, you don't have to call people "sir", especially 1 or 2 times a sentence. To each his own though.
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Postby Viritica » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:15 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Viritica wrote:African Americans are thrown in jail more because they commit more crime.

Yeah. Right.

Your study is flawed. It doesn't take into account the defendant's criminal record in these cases.

If someone has a record the odds are they're going to receive a tougher sentence.

This is how the justice system works.

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Postby Senyosu » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:15 pm

Reverse racism is bullshit as a social concept.

Where to begin, ah yes. Racism as a natural part of 'human nature' is going to exist either way. Someone looks different, there will be a small form of rejection to said different oerson. Now, racism as a social construct is similar, but diffirent in that it facilitates such human behaviour to be justified and to use it to one's ends.

The European conquerors used Racism as a social construct to drive 'racial lines' betweenthe people's they conquered. Not only to make themselves feel superior, but to divide the conquered lands to make governance... Well... Easier. Now you see, this where it becomes a bit strange. Racism exists either way. Racism as the social construct of racial and social stratification only allows one to justify superiority. In this case, the Europeans themselves. When I say European, I mean specifically those nations that had significant naval capibility to go off and make empires. Which would be most of the Alantic Western European nations like Spain, Portugal, The United Kingdom, France, etc.

Now we come to how reverse racism is bullshit. Claiming someone of color 'racist' on the grounds of their racial pride is a bit foolish. This is as a result of colonial mentality. The mentality of being racially stratified from what was consider the norm of that time. Now. The difference between white pride and black pride is that white people suffered little to none as a result of the applied social stratification that is racism. In fact, they benefited. Hence the term white privelige and the like, but that tends to get messy and whatnot, so I'll cut it short for there. Black pride is to celebrate the accomplishments of the black community throughout the decades. It is desireable for them as it celebrates their victory over an oppressive sysetm that brings out the worst in human behaviour and nature.

In the end all, racism as the social construct really benefits those that created in the first place. Hence why white pride is inherently redundant and racist. Hence why reverse racism is bullshit. Hence why black pride and Asian pride is justifiable, as they commemorate the steady deestablishment of a system that solely benefits one 'race'

In the end, racism exists by default. The social construct created by the 'mighty whitey' if you may, is the building to be destroyed.
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Postby Northern Oomphalis » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:15 pm

Vettrera wrote:
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Sir, I am glad to head that. Sir, please accept my humblest apology if I have offended in you in the slightest way, Sir.

You have not sir.


Thank you, Sir. I would be filled with terror and be awfully ashamed of myself if I did, Sir.

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Fortitudinem wrote:One word: Euup.

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Postby Mavorpen » Thu Apr 24, 2014 1:17 pm

Viritica wrote:

Your study is flawed. It doesn't take into account the defendant's criminal record in these cases.

If someone has a record the odds are they're going to receive a tougher sentence.

This is how the justice system works.

Next.

Too bad it actually does account for this. ALL studies concerning this made within the past 20 years do

Sorry, but reality doesn't agree with your racist beliefs.
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