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Postby Guadalupador » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:39 pm

Indira wrote:Of course you can find racist blackpeople. What's your point OP?

His point is that he's just mad at black people, because he basically feels "oppressed" by minorities.
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Postby Draica » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:39 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Draica wrote:

Wait, so this goes beyond single parentship? Even if I had a father a white kid would still be more fortunate than me in certain aeras?


Yes. Having both parents is helpful (as studies show children of two parent households tend to do better), but that does not change the fact that how you look, the color of your skin will affect how you are treated.


Damn it.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:39 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
If in fact he was beaten up constantly for just being white and ONLY for being white and the teachers neglected his case then yes, this is against the law and professional ethics. Teachers and principals need to be the student's adult advocates while at school.

I would not have pressed charges. Would a child of mine tell me that they got beat up at school simply because they are of Hispanic heritage and that no teacher stepped in, I'd chew not only the teacher but the principal out.


Oh, my parents did get involved.

But the faculty would blanket deny having heard of it, then would promise to "take care of it" (spoiler: they didn't).


You needed to be pulled out of that school, and the school board needed to be informed, as well as the city councilperson in charge of that district, the mayor, and the news media.

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Postby The Enclave Government » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:39 pm

TheTechnically Insane wrote:Just honestly curious if anyone else has thought about this, and realized how bad it is.
A black man can say "Black Power!" or "Black Pride!" and get support.
I as a white man could say "White Pride!" and be considered a racist.

BlackPeopleMeet.com isn't racist, although if I were to make a WhitePeopleMeet.com, I can almost guarantee that a LOT of African Americans would petition to get the website taken down.

BET. Black Entertainment Channel. If anyone were to try to make a White Entertainment Channel, the FCC wouldn't allow it. It would be considered Racist and Offensive.
Anyone else notice this major problem?


Blacks are MORE racist then White People, you just dont see it on the Media because the Niggers were ''wrongly enslaved'' a few hundred years ago. It'd be the same if the Whites were the ones still shitting in Holes in Africa when the *cough*civilized*cough* Whites found them there and used them for a better purpose.
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Postby Aurora Novus » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:40 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
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Yes. If we're truly concerned with ending racism, the solution is to downplay the importance of race in all areas. When you do have things like black pride and such, you then get people like the topic creator, who then try and start crying out about black racism, which encourages racism on the part of other races.

Racism is caused by a displaced value on race. Destroy the value of race, you destroy racism.

That's remarkably tone deaf.


"Tone deaf"?

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:40 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
If in fact he was beaten up constantly for just being white and ONLY for being white and the teachers neglected his case then yes, this is against the law and professional ethics. Teachers and principals need to be the student's adult advocates while at school.

I would not have pressed charges. Would a child of mine tell me that they got beat up at school simply because they are of Hispanic heritage and that no teacher stepped in, I'd chew not only the teacher but the principal out.


Oh, my parents did get involved.

But the faculty would blanket deny having heard of it, then would promise to "take care of it" (spoiler: they didn't).


Which is pretty messed up, to be honest.
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Postby Draica » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:41 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
TheTechnically Insane wrote:Just honestly curious if anyone else has thought about this, and realized how bad it is.
A black man can say "Black Power!" or "Black Pride!" and get support.
I as a white man could say "White Pride!" and be considered a racist.

BlackPeopleMeet.com isn't racist, although if I were to make a WhitePeopleMeet.com, I can almost guarantee that a LOT of African Americans would petition to get the website taken down.

BET. Black Entertainment Channel. If anyone were to try to make a White Entertainment Channel, the FCC wouldn't allow it. It would be considered Racist and Offensive.
Anyone else notice this major problem?


Blacks are MORE racist then White People, you just dont see it on the Media because the Niggers were ''wrongly enslaved'' a few hundred years ago. It'd be the same if the Whites were the ones still shitting in Holes in Africa when the *cough*civilized*cough* Whites found them there and used them for a better purpose.


..What is your problem? How can you make a sweeping generalization like that without statistical evidence?
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:41 pm

Draica wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Very few people in the thread (if any) are saying that this is right, but that it is. It's a bullshit feature of our society, but it exists nonetheless.



Wait, so this goes beyond single parentship? Even if I had a father a white kid would still be more fortunate than me in certain aeras?

Well, yes, that is likely (though not a given) African-Americans are generally poorer than caucasians, and as such, generally do not receive the same opportunities as whites. If you're African-American, how do you not know these things?

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Postby Ixzara » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:42 pm

Benuty wrote:
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Of course it does, have you seen pictures of the traditional ethnic groups originating from Europe? That is White!

Oh you mean Europeans?

Europe is a bad example of what "White" is. If we're using skin-tone as definition, then anyone outside of Northern Europe isn't white.
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So we need a white African. And we have Obama! Har har har har.


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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:42 pm

Draica wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:
Blacks are MORE racist then White People, you just dont see it on the Media because the Niggers were ''wrongly enslaved'' a few hundred years ago. It'd be the same if the Whites were the ones still shitting in Holes in Africa when the *cough*civilized*cough* Whites found them there and used them for a better purpose.


..What is your problem? How can you make a sweeping generalization like that without statistical evidence?


Don't worry, he's just looking to rile people up. It's already been reported.

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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:43 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
TheTechnically Insane wrote:Just honestly curious if anyone else has thought about this, and realized how bad it is.
A black man can say "Black Power!" or "Black Pride!" and get support.
I as a white man could say "White Pride!" and be considered a racist.

BlackPeopleMeet.com isn't racist, although if I were to make a WhitePeopleMeet.com, I can almost guarantee that a LOT of African Americans would petition to get the website taken down.

BET. Black Entertainment Channel. If anyone were to try to make a White Entertainment Channel, the FCC wouldn't allow it. It would be considered Racist and Offensive.
Anyone else notice this major problem?


Blacks are MORE racist then White People, you just dont see it on the Media because the Niggers were ''wrongly enslaved'' a few hundred years ago. It'd be the same if the Whites were the ones still shitting in Holes in Africa when the *cough*civilized*cough* Whites found them there and used them for a better purpose.

Y'know, you're not really helping your own argument right now... ;)

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Postby Death Metal » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:43 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Death Metal wrote:
Oh, my parents did get involved.

But the faculty would blanket deny having heard of it, then would promise to "take care of it" (spoiler: they didn't).


Which is pretty messed up, to be honest.


Yeah. And that's why I hate bigotry of all kinds, racial or otherwise.

EDIT- Fortunately my history teachers (neither of which were white), were the exact opposite of the rest of the bunch and in fact were pretty awesome. Thing was, nobody messed with me when I was around them.
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Postby Guadalupador » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:43 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
TheTechnically Insane wrote:Just honestly curious if anyone else has thought about this, and realized how bad it is.
A black man can say "Black Power!" or "Black Pride!" and get support.
I as a white man could say "White Pride!" and be considered a racist.

BlackPeopleMeet.com isn't racist, although if I were to make a WhitePeopleMeet.com, I can almost guarantee that a LOT of African Americans would petition to get the website taken down.

BET. Black Entertainment Channel. If anyone were to try to make a White Entertainment Channel, the FCC wouldn't allow it. It would be considered Racist and Offensive.
Anyone else notice this major problem?


Blacks are MORE racist then White People, you just dont see it on the Media because the Niggers were ''wrongly enslaved'' a few hundred years ago. It'd be the same if the Whites were the ones still shitting in Holes in Africa when the *cough*civilized*cough* Whites found them there and used them for a better purpose.

Wow, that was one of the most racist things I've ever heard on this site.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:44 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Draica wrote:

Wait, so this goes beyond single parentship? Even if I had a father a white kid would still be more fortunate than me in certain aeras?

Well, yes, that is likely (though not a given) African-Americans are generally poorer than caucasians, and as such, generally do not receive the same opportunities as whites. If you're African-American, how do you not know these things?


There are African AMericans that do not face these problems while growing up. More then that, since he is in a single child household, it might be more difficult to tell what is an issue of race, and what is an issue of being in that type of household. (People still look down upon and degrade single mothers afterall).
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Postby The Enclave Government » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:45 pm

Guadalupador wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:
Blacks are MORE racist then White People, you just dont see it on the Media because the Niggers were ''wrongly enslaved'' a few hundred years ago. It'd be the same if the Whites were the ones still shitting in Holes in Africa when the *cough*civilized*cough* Whites found them there and used them for a better purpose.

Wow, that was one of the most racist things I've ever heard on this site.


Sorry If i'm a bit biased against being sappy, if the Blacks were SO far behind in Technology then the Europeans, its a cold hard fact they werent as ''good'' as said Europeans, there's no other explanation.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:45 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Draica wrote:

Wait, so this goes beyond single parentship? Even if I had a father a white kid would still be more fortunate than me in certain aeras?

Well, yes, that is likely (though not a given) African-Americans are generally poorer than caucasians, and as such, generally do not receive the same opportunities as whites. If you're African-American, how do you not know these things?


I guess he's had a sheltered life out of the real world and I cannot blame him.

As a Hispanic myself I still cannot grasp the idea of how someone can be racist or prejudiced. I certainly never had to encounter prejudice while I was a child growing up.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:46 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Which is pretty messed up, to be honest.


Yeah. And that's why I hate bigotry of all kinds, racial or otherwise.


No one is claiming minorities cannot be bigots. They are claiming that an aspect of racism is having the power to act on said bigotry. Thus since African Americans do not have the political power to enact racist laws and the such, they are bigots, not racists. I don't know that much about the topic, and I don't think I agree with the definition, but I understand what they are saying.
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:47 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Guadalupador wrote:Wow, that was one of the most racist things I've ever heard on this site.


Sorry If i'm a bit biased against being sappy, if the Blacks were SO far behind in Technology then the Europeans, its a cold hard fact they werent as ''good'' as said Europeans, there's no other explanation.

Read my sig, i say it like i see the facts.

Jeez, you're just digging yourself deeper and deeper. Your comment is offensive, and furthermore, your premise is flawed.

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Postby Gothmogs » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:48 pm

Why is this about black people specifically? There are other non-white races...And anyways, I do see what you're saying, but whites are the majourity right now (at least in America which I'm assuming you're talking about) so they don't need a WET, or a WhitePeopleMeet.com, because them whites be everywhere!
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Postby Aurora Novus » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:48 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Guadalupador wrote:Wow, that was one of the most racist things I've ever heard on this site.


Sorry If i'm a bit biased against being sappy, if the Blacks were SO far behind in Technology then the Europeans, its a cold hard fact they werent as ''good'' as said Europeans, there's no other explanation.


European dominance of the globe has largely been a product of fortune more than anything. Whites weren't "better", they just got lucky.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:49 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Guadalupador wrote:Wow, that was one of the most racist things I've ever heard on this site.


Sorry If i'm a bit biased against being sappy, if the Blacks were SO far behind in Technology then the Europeans, its a cold hard fact they werent as ''good'' as said Europeans, there's no other explanation.

Read my sig, i say it like i see the facts.


Now watch an actual historian address this.

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Postby Death Metal » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:49 pm

The Enclave Government wrote:
Guadalupador wrote:Wow, that was one of the most racist things I've ever heard on this site.


Sorry If i'm a bit biased against being sappy, if the Blacks were SO far behind in Technology then the Europeans, its a cold hard fact they werent as ''good'' as said Europeans, there's no other explanation.


No. People being technologically behind is not an excuse to treat said people like non-humans (in fact, that's where the concept of "race" comes from; "race" meant then what "species" does now) and rape and enslave them.
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Postby Ixzara » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:50 pm

Aurora Novus wrote:
The Enclave Government wrote:
Sorry If i'm a bit biased against being sappy, if the Blacks were SO far behind in Technology then the Europeans, its a cold hard fact they werent as ''good'' as said Europeans, there's no other explanation.


European dominance of the globe has largely been a product of fortune more than anything. Whites weren't "better", they just got lucky.

Not entirely. Europeans just became dominant because they were the best at killing people. Remember that the Arabs were advancing the sciences and the arts while Europe was busy languishing in the Middle Ages and the Plague.
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But since we all came from Africa, it's a known fact that the best president is an African.
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Postby Draica » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:50 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Draica wrote:

Wait, so this goes beyond single parentship? Even if I had a father a white kid would still be more fortunate than me in certain aeras?

Well, yes, that is likely (though not a given) African-Americans are generally poorer than caucasians, and as such, generally do not receive the same opportunities as whites. If you're African-American, how do you not know these things?



I never really thought that the color of my skin would effect me. I knew that in some way being a child to a single mother would indeed effect me, but my skin color? No. I haven't been very sheltered, either. I just haven't interracted with a bunch of racist people.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Apr 24, 2014 12:50 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Which is pretty messed up, to be honest.


Yeah. And that's why I hate bigotry of all kinds, racial or otherwise.

EDIT- Fortunately my history teachers (neither of which were white), were the exact opposite of the rest of the bunch and in fact were pretty awesome. Thing was, nobody messed with me when I was around them.


History teachers strike again! :lol:

But on a more serious note; I just don't see the idea of racism or bigotry as useful. Maybe it's because I never managed to process a rational valid reason for it when I was first exposed to it as a teenager when a teacher (who wasn't white) told me - and this is no joke - that I should go back to Mexico.

I quickly shut her up telling her she doesn't even know me and to stop making bullshit statements about me - yes, I told a teacher that, at 14 years of age, at risk of getting to detention for talking back to a teacher because she was being bigoted.
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