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Postby Viritica » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:19 pm

Prezelly wrote:There is a specific number in some universities, mostly public, that require diversity so they offer aid to a specific race so they are more likely to join and the university can meet the gov't set quota of that race of people

Government set quota?
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Postby Spartan Philidelphia » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:19 pm

Being a minority student means you are less likely to get a scholarship. On the other hand, white students are more likely to get a scholarship.

It's important to note that for the most part, this doesn't appear to be deliberate, intentional discrimination.

http://californiawatch.org/dailyreport/ ... hips-12525

Kantrowitz said he doesn't see private scholarships as deliberately discriminatory. Most scholarships do not use racial preferences at all, he said. But many private scholarships tend to "perpetuate historical inequities in the distribution of scholarships according to race," he wrote.

He observed that many private scholarships reflect the interests of their sponsors, which may not resonate as much with minority students. For example, awards for students who participate in equestrian sports, water sports and winter sports may attract more Caucasian than African American applicants, Kantrowitz said.

"It kind of raises the question of what exactly are the priorities here?" he said. "You have institutions that are giving out merit- and need-based aid, and the merit-based aid seems to be much more likely to be awarded to non-minority students. With the scholarships, it seems to be not any deliberate discrimination, just perpetuation of historical differences."
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Postby Miyager » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:20 pm

Here in New York, I know there are some schools that offer scholarships for Italian-American's and Irish American's. And there are ones for others I can't remember.
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Postby Prezelly » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:20 pm

Viritica wrote:
Prezelly wrote:There is a specific number in some universities, mostly public, that require diversity so they offer aid to a specific race so they are more likely to join and the university can meet the gov't set quota of that race of people

Government set quota?

Yes a requires percentage of black students in a college or so I believe
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:23 pm

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Viritica wrote:Government set quota?

Yes a requires percentage of black students in a college or so I believe

You believe wrongly. The Supreme Court has declared quotas at colleges unconstitutional.
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:23 pm

Private scholarships can have whatever criteria they want. If there aren't enough out there for something you think there should be, set one up.

Others setting theirs up for blacks, asians, or lightbulb-eaters ain't a problem.
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Postby Prezelly » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:24 pm

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Prezelly wrote:Yes a requires percentage of black students in a college or so I believe

You believe wrongly. The Supreme Court has declared quotas at colleges unconstitutional.

When where and why if I may ask?
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:25 pm

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Postby Greater Istanistan » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:29 pm

Didn't know that was a thing, sorry.
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Postby The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:32 pm

Aika Village wrote:How about give free university scholarships to everyone, regardless of nationality, race, gender or anything else?
That would've been nice really, but the government isn't a huge fan of nice things, really.


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Postby Prezelly » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:34 pm

The Vekta-Helghast Empire wrote:
Aika Village wrote:How about give free university scholarships to everyone, regardless of nationality, race, gender or anything else?
That would've been nice really, but the government isn't a huge fan of nice things, really.


Welcome to Scotland. (Unless you're English, in which case I sincerely apologise but you can't have our free University.)

I think even if they offered us free college grants in the US a lot of people wouldn't take it. Sadly
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Postby The Vekta-Helghast Empire » Thu Apr 24, 2014 2:42 pm

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Welcome to Scotland. (Unless you're English, in which case I sincerely apologise but you can't have our free University.)

I think even if they offered us free college grants in the US a lot of people wouldn't take it. Sadly


That's the key reason I would never consider moving to the United States in my early adulthood. Here I can go to both college and university free of charge. It's a pretty big part of life here, it's almost standard for someone to have a college education here. It's a shame it's not the same for yourselves.

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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Apr 24, 2014 4:30 pm

TheTechnically Insane wrote:Anyone else notice that practically every college offers scholarships for being black? I'm white, where the hell is my scholarship? I deserve just as much as any other person. Opinions? I find it pretty racist.


This is like, your 8th race related thread. What the hell do you have against black people?
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Postby Greater Istanistan » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:32 pm

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HIS LOGIC;

In 'Murica, every group has a certain amount of equal. There are less black people, so therefore they have more equal per capita than the white people.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:32 pm

TheTechnically Insane wrote:Anyone else notice that practically every college offers scholarships for being black? I'm white, where the hell is my scholarship? I deserve just as much as any other person. Opinions? I find it pretty racist.

Looking at your writing ability, you obviously don't deserve one.
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Postby Sabah » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:35 pm

TheTechnically Insane wrote:Anyone else notice that practically every college offers scholarships for being black? I'm white, where the hell is my scholarship? I deserve just as much as any other person. Opinions? I find it pretty racist.


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Postby Shie » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:39 pm

I don't care for the issue, college should be free to attend.

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Postby Ardoki » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:41 pm

TheTechnically Insane wrote:A few schools actually fund those scholarships, but most of them are in fact funded by someone else. Either way, it's pretty damn stupid. I'm proud to be white and I feel that if a black man deserves a scholarship for being black without needing a single bit of effort to get it, I should have to fit in the same criteria.
African Americans are disadvantages in America, they are the poorest minority in the nation and most of them cannot afford to go to university.
If it weren't for those scholarships many smart and hard working African Americans would never get the chance to go to university and then get a good job. Instead they would be poor and some might even resort to crime to survive.

African Americans suffer institutionalised discrimination, for centuries they were denied an education, that created an uneducated group of individuals, those people then had children but studies have found that children of those without an education generally do not receive an good education due to the poverty caused by their parents lack of education.
Due to the massive poverty which African Americans suffer from many can't afford to reach university and instead have to take low paying jobs, their children will most likely follow in the cycle.

These scholarships allow bright African American children to break out of the cycle of poverty. I personally believe it is a great thing, however I would prefer it if all education was free.
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Postby Ardoki » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:48 pm

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TheTechnically Insane wrote:Anyone else notice that practically every college offers scholarships for being black? I'm white, where the hell is my scholarship? I deserve just as much as any other person. Opinions? I find it pretty racist.


This is like, your 8th race related thread. What the hell do you have against black people?
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Postby Santa Lucania » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:51 pm

I don't see why your making a big deal about. Sorry privet scholarships aren't aimed at white who statistically have an easier time entering into colleges. There are scholarships for being white you just need to know where to look I mean I got $300 cut of my tuition for being a white male living in Kansas so they are out there you just need to look.
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Postby Arumdaum » Thu Apr 24, 2014 11:56 pm

Prezelly wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You believe wrongly. The Supreme Court has declared quotas at colleges unconstitutional.

When where and why if I may ask?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regents_o ... a_v._Bakke

Back in 1978. The Supreme Court upheld affirmative action but struck down quotas.
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