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Bible to Possibly Become Louisiana's Official State Book

Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:00 am

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2014/04/louisiana_bible_official_state.html

Legislation that would make the Holy Bible the official state book of Louisiana cleared the House Committee on Municipal, Parochial and Cultural Affairs with a vote of 8-5 Thursday afternoon. It will now head to the full House of Representatives for consideration.

Rep. Thomas Carmody, R-Shreveport, originally filed a bill to declare a specific copy of the Bible, found in the Louisiana State Museum system, the official state book. But by the time he presented the proposal to the committee, he changed language in his legislation to make the generic King James version of the Bible, a text used worldwide, the official state book.

Carmody said his intention was not to mingle religion with government functions. "This is not about establishing an official religion," he said.

Still, Legislators became concerned that the proposal wasn't broad enough and did not reflect the breadth of Bibles used by religious communities. In particular, some lawmakers worried that singling out the King James version of the Bible would not properly reflect the culture of Louisiana. The Catholic Church, for example, does not use the King James text.

"Let's make this more inclusive of other Christian faiths, more than just the ones that use the King James version," said Rep. Stephen Ortego, D-Carencro.

A few committee members fought the bill vehemently, saying the legislation was likely to upset some citizens who are not Christian and open the state up to legal challenges.

"I am so bothered by this bill that I just called my pastor. My pastor just said that he thinks we are going to have a legal problem," said Rep. Wesley Bishop, D-New Orleans, who voted against the legislation.

Rep. Ebony Woodruff, D-Harvey, tried to amend the bill to declare "all books of faith" the official state books of Louisiana, but the proposal failed 5-8. When asked if he would be open to making "all books of faith" a group of official state books, Carmody was fairly adamant in his opposition.

"I would certainly be against that amendment," he said.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Louisiana already has concerns about the bill. "[The official state book] ought to be one that relates to the history of Louisiana and not one that is going to discriminate against a large number of Louisianans," said Majorie Esman, executive director of the organization. Esman declined to say whether the ACLU would fight the Holy Bible designation in court if it became law.

Michael Weil, who heads up the Jewish Federation of Greater New Orleans, said his organization -- which is cultural and not religious in nature -- hasn't take a stance on the bill. But the legislation gives him some personal pause.

"I think the state should consider a text that is not religious," he said.

HOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS VOTED:

Those who voted in favor of declaring the Holy Bible Louisiana's official state book: Reps. Taylor Barras, R-New Iberia; Johnny Berthelot, R-Gonzales; Robert Billiot, D-Westwego; Terry Brown, I-Colfax; Mike Danahay, D-Sulphur; Dalton Honore, D-Baton Rouge; Stephen Ortego, D-Carencro; Tom Willmott, R-Kenner

Those who voted against declaring the Holy Bible Louisiana's official state book: Bishop, Woodruff and Reps. Jared Brossett, D-New Orleans; Austin Badon, D-New Orleans; Barbara Norton, D-Shreveport


The Legislation: http://www.legis.la.gov/legis/ViewDocument.aspx?d=877881&n=HB503%20Original

I see this as clear contradiction to the first amendment of the United States constitution. I don't see this going down too well legally for Louisiana if it ends up passing and becoming law.

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Postby Hakio » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:06 am

Eh... I don't mind really. This isn't really going to affect anything, so let them put the Bible as their state book. If it's what the state wants then fine.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:08 am

That is stupid as fuck. Bad Louisiana House Committee. Bad!
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Postby Lancov » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:08 am

Ok, NOW the Official State Thing trend is going too far.
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Postby Liriena » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:08 am

Unconstitutional. Won't last long in courts if it's passed. Nice try, though, Louisiana.
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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:09 am

While it's a truly historic piece of fiction and has more printed copies than any other novel in history, It's a little.... dated. I think they'd be better off with something a little more contemporary and more in line with the state average reading level; like 'Hop on Pop' by Dr Seuss for example. :)
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Postby Juggalo world » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:09 am

If the state wants it then let them have it it's not like they are passing anything saying the bible will be the law of the state.
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Postby Viritica » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:10 am

Have they ever heard of separation of church and state?
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Postby New Waterford » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:10 am

Oh, for goodness' sake.
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Postby Hakio » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:12 am

I'm more shocked that State Books are a thing... :palm:
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:13 am

Hakio wrote:I'm more shocked that State Books are a thing... :palm:

Seems harmless enough.
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Postby Hakio » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:14 am

Ifreann wrote:
Hakio wrote:I'm more shocked that State Books are a thing... :palm:

Seems harmless enough.

But really? State Books? Why do US states need so much pointless arbitrary trivia like this? :roll:
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Postby Terra Sector Union » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:15 am

I bet people are reading this title thinking Louisiana state law is dictated according to what the Bible says. :lol:
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:16 am

Hakio wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Seems harmless enough.

But really? State Books? Why do US states need so much pointless arbitrary trivia like this? :roll:

They don't need them any more than they need a State anything. Some people like that sort of thing, though.
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Postby Bezombia » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:17 am

I vote for changing the state book to The Communist Manifesto.
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Postby Viritica » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:18 am

Bezombia wrote:I vote for changing the state book to The Communist Manifesto.

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Postby The Archregimancy » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:18 am

I will only approve if they also agree to make Brown Sugar the official state song.

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Postby Bezombia » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:19 am

Viritica wrote:
Bezombia wrote:I vote for changing the state book to The Communist Manifesto.

Excuse me while I go vomit for ten hours.


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Postby Viritica » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:19 am

Bezombia wrote:
Viritica wrote:Excuse me while I go vomit for ten hours.


If you have a stomach infection, you probably shouldn't be browsing NS. :I

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Viritica wrote:
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Oh, I don't. I'm just allergic to ideologies that don't work.


Then I sure hope you're not living in a capitalist country, as you'd have a very hard time surviving.
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Postby Viritica » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:22 am

Bezombia wrote:
Viritica wrote:Oh, I don't. I'm just allergic to ideologies that don't work.


Then I sure hope you're not living in a capitalist country, as you'd have a very hard time surviving.

My capitalist country is quite fine, thank you.
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Postby Aeken » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:23 am

Oh hell no.

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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:23 am

The Archregimancy wrote:I will only approve if they also agree to make Brown Sugar the official state song.

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That song pretty much has all the major Louisiana hobbies in it, doesn't it? :unsure:
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:24 am

Viritica wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
Then I sure hope you're not living in a capitalist country, as you'd have a very hard time surviving.

My capitalist country is quite fine, thank you.

Maybe aside from the one state that's trying to adopt the Bible as its official state book.
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Postby Darwinish Brentsylvania » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:24 am

Hakio wrote:I'm more shocked that State Books are a thing... :palm:

Yeah.

I don't really mind this. I don't live in Louisiana.

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