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Postby Blazedtown » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:23 pm

Aggicificicerous wrote:
Next came the new birthers who saw not the happy miracle of life but mere campaigning. Newsmax's Steve Malzberg kicked off proceedings nicely with the statement: "When I say [the pregnancy is] staged I have to believe she's pregnant, if she says she's pregnant. But what great timing! God answered Hillary Clinton's prayers and she's going to have the prop of being a new grandma while she runs for president."


He is saying the Christian god supports Hillary's bid for president? That's quite an endorsement.


No he's saying that all babies are a gift from god. As are all children.

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Postby Bythibus » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:26 pm

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Muinordgrad wrote:Stopped reading after


I hope this is satire....


I see a great future in political commentary ahead of you.

EDIT: I understand time is fleeting and precious but the linked article is more about the prism of gender in which Hillary is framed, likely by both right and left to be fair.

On one hand, Democratic Den Mother. On the other Queen Bitch of Communism. I really hate to say it, but if she runs, a primary talking point for both sides is going to be her gender, more so than now.
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Postby Bombadil » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:28 pm

Aggicificicerous wrote:
Next came the new birthers who saw not the happy miracle of life but mere campaigning. Newsmax's Steve Malzberg kicked off proceedings nicely with the statement: "When I say [the pregnancy is] staged I have to believe she's pregnant, if she says she's pregnant. But what great timing! God answered Hillary Clinton's prayers and she's going to have the prop of being a new grandma while she runs for president."


He is saying the Christian god supports Hillary's bid for president? That's quite an endorsement.


Ha, no, you miss the subtleties.. since it's known fact that god would never and could never endorse a Clinton, his implication is that, clearly, it actually is staged... or the Devil's work, either way..
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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:30 pm

Bythibus wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
I see a great future in political commentary ahead of you.

EDIT: I understand time is fleeting and precious but the linked article is more about the prism of gender in which Hillary is framed, likely by both right and left to be fair.

On one hand, Democratic Den Mother. On the other Queen Bitch of Communism. I really hate to say it, but if she runs, a primary talking point for both sides is going to be her gender, more so than now.

Queen B***ch of Communism? Really? Are you being serious, or joking around like other people in this thread?

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Postby Gauthier » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:30 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Aggicificicerous wrote:
He is saying the Christian god supports Hillary's bid for president? That's quite an endorsement.


Ha, no, you miss the subtleties.. since it's known fact that god would never and could never endorse a Clinton, his implication is that, clearly, it actually is staged... or the Devil's work, either way..


"But if God hates the Clintons, why did He let Bill become President?"
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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:32 pm

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Bombadil wrote:
Ha, no, you miss the subtleties.. since it's known fact that god would never and could never endorse a Clinton, his implication is that, clearly, it actually is staged... or the Devil's work, either way..


"But if God hates the Clintons, why did He let Bill become President?"

No, that was also the Devil's work. But God got even when he put George Bush in office!

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Postby Bombadil » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:34 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Ha, no, you miss the subtleties.. since it's known fact that god would never and could never endorse a Clinton, his implication is that, clearly, it actually is staged... or the Devil's work, either way..


"But if God hates the Clintons, why did He let Bill become President?"


Clearly to remind the good people of USA what bad times are and thus lay a shining path to the glorious goodness, the second coming no less, of the house of Bush.

EDIT: ..and you bastards never learn, that anti-Christ Obama!!??

Jeb's gonna lay waste with his sword of righteousness..
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Postby Muinordgrad » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:42 pm

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Next came the new birthers who saw not the happy miracle of life but mere campaigning. Newsmax's Steve Malzberg kicked off proceedings nicely with the statement: "When I say [the pregnancy is] staged I have to believe she's pregnant, if she says she's pregnant. But what great timing! God answered Hillary Clinton's prayers and she's going to have the prop of being a new grandma while she runs for president."


He is saying the Christian god supports Hillary's bid for president? That's quite an endorsement.

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Postby Bythibus » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:42 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Bythibus wrote:On one hand, Democratic Den Mother. On the other Queen Bitch of Communism. I really hate to say it, but if she runs, a primary talking point for both sides is going to be her gender, more so than now.

Queen B***ch of Communism? Really? Are you being serious, or joking around like other people in this thread?

Son, if I used all the terms that Fox are going to label that woman over the next two years, Queen Bitch of Communism would look like a pet name.
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Postby NERVUN » Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:57 pm

There are times when I am so glad that I no longer have ringside seats to the 3-ring circus that is the US presidential election...

After reading the OP, this is most definitely one of those times.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:10 pm

Divair2 wrote:What? Seriously, what? Why, America? Why?


well when two people love each other very much like mark and chelsea, they want to have a family, and.....
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Postby Estado Paulista » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:12 pm

The Clintons are the new Kennedys.
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Postby MERIZoC » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:15 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Divair2 wrote:What? Seriously, what? Why, America? Why?


well when two people love each other very much like mark and chelsea, they want to have a family, and.....

No, the 2014 Birthers clearly showed us that it was completely staged. By Satan…..

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:20 pm

NERVUN wrote:There are times when I am so glad that I no longer have ringside seats to the 3-ring circus that is the US presidential election...

After reading the OP, this is most definitely one of those times.

Oh, we can set something up to ensure that you get all the news and I do mean ALL the news, Nerv. :p
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:21 pm

Estado Paulista wrote:The Clintons are the new Kennedys.


I'll believe that when someone tries to shoot (not SHOE) Hillary.
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Postby Boomhaueristan » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:21 pm

If her daughter wanted the baby and isn't being forced to have it, how does this conflict with her stance on abortion?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:31 pm

Boomhaueristan wrote:If her daughter wanted the baby and isn't being forced to have it, how does this conflict with her stance on abortion?

its the terminology, chelesa is pregnant with child, not a fetus, and if the pro-abortion clintons believe a baby is not a baby but a fetus, they should call it so.

i get the point, i am not so sure i like using chelesa to make it.

while i hope she doesnt win, i do think its sexist to ask if her being a grandma would change her mind about running.
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Postby Baltenstein » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:41 pm

Being informed by the finest of right-wing conspirologist blogs, I believe the Clintons reproduce like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wutcJ7tKyRA

(Possibly NSFW)
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Postby Bythibus » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:44 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Boomhaueristan wrote:If her daughter wanted the baby and isn't being forced to have it, how does this conflict with her stance on abortion?

its the terminology, chelesa is pregnant with child, not a fetus, and if the pro-abortion clintons believe a baby is not a baby but a fetus, they should call it so.

i get the point, i am not so sure i like using chelesa to make it.

while i hope she doesnt win, i do think its sexist to ask if her being a grandma would change her mind about running.

an expecting mother and her family calling a child a child before it's legally a child is not a story in the least, regardless of their positions on undesired fetus names.
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Postby NERVUN » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:46 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
NERVUN wrote:There are times when I am so glad that I no longer have ringside seats to the 3-ring circus that is the US presidential election...

After reading the OP, this is most definitely one of those times.

Oh, we can set something up to ensure that you get all the news and I do mean ALL the news, Nerv. :p

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:56 pm

Bythibus wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:its the terminology, chelesa is pregnant with child, not a fetus, and if the pro-abortion clintons believe a baby is not a baby but a fetus, they should call it so.

i get the point, i am not so sure i like using chelesa to make it.

while i hope she doesnt win, i do think its sexist to ask if her being a grandma would change her mind about running.

an expecting mother and her family calling a child a child before it's legally a child is not a story in the least, regardless of their positions on undesired fetus names.


then what is?
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Postby Baltenstein » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:57 pm

Boomhaueristan wrote:If her daughter wanted the baby and isn't being forced to have it, how does this conflict with her stance on abortion?


Abortionists want to take the mothers' decision to have babies away from them. (Proof: Jack Chick comics)
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Postby SaintB » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:57 pm

The amazing feats of mental gymnastics they are capable of performing are the only things that keep me from thinking that these people are total morons.
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Postby KayCee Masterpiece » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:57 pm

Bythibus wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
I see a great future in political commentary ahead of you.

EDIT: I understand time is fleeting and precious but the linked article is more about the prism of gender in which Hillary is framed, likely by both right and left to be fair.

On one hand, Democratic Den Mother. On the other Queen Bitch of Communism. I really hate to say it, but if she runs, a primary talking point for both sides is going to be her gender, more so than now.


I have to respectfully disagree on primary talking points being gender, if anything, it will be her age.

but three others:
Her votes as Senator for the 1. initial Patriot act and 2. to invade Iraq.. they were fair game for Obama to critique her on in 2007, and will continue to be so
3. most conservatives are never going to stop asking about Libya.

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Postby Bombadil » Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:09 pm

KayCee Masterpiece wrote:I have to respectfully disagree on primary talking points being gender, if anything, it will be her age.


Potentially her age will be raised as an issue - hardly defensible but given Bush was framed as an All-American fighting hero while Kerry was a lily-livered coward, anything's possible... but I think gender will certainly be a large means of not directly attacking but certainly framing.. even if in words such as 'witch', 'harridan' or, and I honestly believe it will be used.. granny state.

But three others:
Her votes as Senator for the 1. initial Patriot act and 2. to invade Iraq.. they were fair game for Obama to critique her on in 2007, and will continue to be so
3. most conservatives are never going to stop asking about Libya.


I honestly cannot see the right attacking on Patriot Act voting or invading Iraq.. that would be.. well, I was going to say madness but per my example above I'm sure they could frame it because, let's face it, voters on either side believe what they want to that supports their candidate.

For Libya.. possibly, but I don't think polling sees her as weak on foreign policy.

I assume it will be back to Clinton, that property thing, Monica.. questioning the Clinton's themselves, over and above Granny State.
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