Should religious organizations be exempt from tax in the US?

[Fascist Russian Empire]

1 Still,some people use them for that, THEY NEED TAXATION
2 Some of those televangelists sell things, I am pretty sure of it, albeit, true, if they started getting taxed they'd probably ask for donations instead so everything would be the same
3 YES, PROCLAIMING POVERTY AS A VIRTUE AND THEN ACCUMULATING A MOUNTAIN OF WEALTH FROM THOSE YOU FOOLED IS EVIL

1: So, tax all religions just because a handful of people abuse the system? That's like getting rid of welfare because of welfare fraud.
2: See point 1.
3:
A: Catholicism doesn't proclaim poverty as a virtue. Nor does any Christian sect.
B: The Catholic Church doesn't have a mountain of wealth. The Pope isn't even in the top twenty seven richest heads of state in the world; saying that the Catholic Church has a mountain of wealth is fucking ridiculous. Lying is evil, you know.

[The Victorian Empire]

Yes.

[Molerats]

1 Still,some people use them for that, THEY NEED TAXATION
2 Some of those televangelists sell things, I am pretty sure of it, albeit, true, if they started getting taxed they'd probably ask for donations instead so everything would be the same
3 YES, PROCLAIMING POVERTY AS A VIRTUE AND THEN ACCUMULATING A MOUNTAIN OF WEALTH FROM THOSE YOU FOOLED IS EVIL

1: So, tax all religions just because a handful of people abuse the system? That's like getting rid of welfare because of welfare fraud.
2: See point 2.
3:
A: Catholicism doesn't proclaim poverty as a virtue. Nor does any Christian sect.
B: The Catholic Church doesn't have a mountain of wealth. The Pope isn't even in the top twenty seven richest heads of state in the world; saying that the Catholic Church has a mountain of wealth is fucking ridiculous. Lying is evil, you know.

I conceded point 2
As about 1 I think it's more widespread considering the passion with which the catholic church supports immoral practices like pedophilia (they take care of pedophile priests ). You can't expect an immoral organization to act morally and sadly for you religious organizations in general don't have a great history
3 Jesus about the rich, remember that part he said about them and entering heaven ? The catholic church is supposed to preach the bible and that goes along with it
and B is irrelevant, I can assure you he lives a good live, better than that of most of his ''flock''

[Fascist Russian Empire]

As about 1 I think it's more widespread considering the passion with which the catholic church supports immoral practices like pedophilia (they take care of pedophile priests ). You can't expect an immoral organization to act morally and sadly for you religious organizations in general don't have a great history
3 Jesus about the rich, remember that part he said about them and entering heaven ? The catholic church is supposed to preach the bible and that goes along with it
and B is irrelevant, I can assure you he lives a good live, better than that of most of his ''flock''

First off, pedophilia is considered a sin in all sects of Christianity, and no church condones it. Just because there's a few priests who engage in pedophilia doesn't mean that Catholicism condones it.

Secondly, some Catholics are rich; what's the big deal? Nobody has the exact amount of money, and just because one person has more money than everyone else doesn't mean that person is evil. Hell, lots of multi-billionaires give tons of money to charity, and I imagine that Pope Francis does the same. Having more money than everyone else doesn't make someone evil.

[Nirya]

The Bible is a horrible, intolerant, sexist, racist and discriminatory book. Same for the Koran, Torah and other religious works.

Please, just leave.

At least just read it, just read it. I'll bet that you did not read any of them.


Also, to say that is to be a hypocrite because you are saying that we should not be tolerant of religion because it's not tolerant.

My friend Jumalariik makes a good point, you are saying no religion should be tolerated when in fact most of the religious people are very tolerant. I think you just hate all religions because you want to be edgy or rebellious in some way.

[Molerats]

As about 1 I think it's more widespread considering the passion with which the catholic church supports immoral practices like pedophilia (they take care of pedophile priests ). You can't expect an immoral organization to act morally and sadly for you religious organizations in general don't have a great history
3 Jesus about the rich, remember that part he said about them and entering heaven ? The catholic church is supposed to preach the bible and that goes along with it
and B is irrelevant, I can assure you he lives a good live, better than that of most of his ''flock''

First off, pedophilia is considered a sin in all sects of Christianity, and no church condones it. Just because there's a few priests who engage in pedophilia doesn't mean that Catholicism condones it.

Secondly, some Catholics are rich; what's the big deal? Nobody has the exact amount of money, and just because one person has more money than everyone else doesn't mean that person is evil. Hell, lots of multi-billionaires give tons of money to charity, and I imagine that Pope Francis does the same. Having more money than everyone else doesn't make someone evil.

It doesn't condone it ? NOT OFFICIALLY but they sure as hell protect pedophile priests and no apology will change that. If he is sorry then he should hand them over and send them to prison where they belong

Secondly I don't care about the flock, they can be whatever they want, I care about the preachers which,again,support a writing that's pretty much against wealth (if you want to go to heaven, which is what they say you pretty much want)

[Fascist Russian Empire]

It doesn't condone it ? NOT OFFICIALLY but they sure as hell protect pedophile priests and no apology will change that. If he is sorry then he should hand them over and send them to prison where they belong

Secondly I don't care about the flock, they can be whatever they want, I care about the preachers

First, either provide a source for the Church protecting pedophiles or I call bullshit.

Secondly, what the hell makes priests more special than anyone else that they become evil for having money and nobody else does?

[Molerats]

It doesn't condone it ? NOT OFFICIALLY but they sure as hell protect pedophile priests and no apology will change that. If he is sorry then he should hand them over and send them to prison where they belong

Secondly I don't care about the flock, they can be whatever they want, I care about the preachers

First, either provide a source for the Church protecting pedophiles or I call bullshit.

Secondly, what the hell makes priests more special than anyone else that they become evil for having money and nobody else does?

Do you really want a source ? Aren't the numerous stories of priests being moved to another city after an ''incident'' enough ?
Secondly, the doctrine they preach. If you preach something then beeping apply it

[The United Brony Armies]

As about 1 I think it's more widespread considering the passion with which the catholic church supports immoral practices like pedophilia (they take care of pedophile priests ). You can't expect an immoral organization to act morally and sadly for you religious organizations in general don't have a great history
3 Jesus about the rich, remember that part he said about them and entering heaven ? The catholic church is supposed to preach the bible and that goes along with it
and B is irrelevant, I can assure you he lives a good live, better than that of most of his ''flock''

First off, pedophilia is considered a sin in all sects of Christianity, and no church condones it. Just because there's a few priests who engage in pedophilia doesn't mean that Catholicism condones it.

Secondly, some Catholics are rich; what's the big deal? Nobody has the exact amount of money, and just because one person has more money than everyone else doesn't mean that person is evil. Hell, lots of multi-billionaires give tons of money to charity, and I imagine that Pope Francis does the same. Having more money than everyone else doesn't make someone evil.

His point is that people are still making money off of religion and that should still be taxed in my opinion. I mean boo-fricken-hoo everyone pays taxes, any normal person or organization can fill out a form to exempt partially for charity and such but no one should be completely exempt, it's ridiculous.

[The UPA]

Yes they should be exempt. Churches ((mostly Baptist churches)) run independently which is very hard to do. And Baptist style churches mostly focus on charity.

[Fascist Russian Empire]

His point is that people are still making money off of religion and that should still be taxed in my opinion. I mean boo-fricken-hoo everyone pays taxes, any normal person or organization can fill out a form to exempt partially for charity and such but no one should be completely exempt, it's ridiculous.

Non-profit organizations don't pay taxes, and churches are non-profit organizations. Boo fucking hoo, churches are qualified under law to be tax-exempt. #DealWithIt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)(3)#501.28c.29.283.29

[Nirya]

First off, pedophilia is considered a sin in all sects of Christianity, and no church condones it. Just because there's a few priests who engage in pedophilia doesn't mean that Catholicism condones it.

Secondly, some Catholics are rich; what's the big deal? Nobody has the exact amount of money, and just because one person has more money than everyone else doesn't mean that person is evil. Hell, lots of multi-billionaires give tons of money to charity, and I imagine that Pope Francis does the same. Having more money than everyone else doesn't make someone evil.

It doesn't condone it ? NOT OFFICIALLY but they sure as hell protect pedophile priests and no apology will change that. If he is sorry then he should hand them over and send them to prison where they belong

Secondly I don't care about the flock, they can be whatever they want, I care about the preachers which,again,support a writing that's pretty much against wealth (if you want to go to heaven, which is what they say you pretty much want)

You have yet to source this.

[Molerats]

30 seconds on the internet (thank google ) and I found this

Thankyou for this excellent report. I am a physician. I am also a Catholic. I have met many who have been sexually abused by priests. I too was sexually assaulted by a priest from the Carmelite religious order
when I was a young doctor in Dublin, Ireland. That priest had no conscience about what he did. The church
continues to protect its predator priests and shows NO CARE for the child victims of clergy sexual abuse. Maybe it is because the pope and clergy are childless, celibate men, that might be why they protect their predator priests and bishops, and re-victimize the victims. The pope cannot continue to be his own law. He wants the right to investigate crimes in his own church and to investigate his own criminals. How wrong-headed is that? Non-Catholic entities must pressure law enforcement officials and governments around the world to investigate the Catholic Church. I was in Africa last year and I heard from teachers in fear of losing their jobs if they spoke-up about the sexual abuse happening in their Catholic schools by priests, brothers, nuns. Clergy sexual abuse of children is still going on around the world and the children have no voice but our voice to protect them. The pope and Catholic Church no longer have any integrity in my eyes, since
they still want to protect the predator clergy.
Even now, Pope Francis is protecting his sexual predator Archbishop Wesolowski from facing charges of
sexually abusing young boys in Poland and in the Dominican Republic. The pope says his archbishop will be investigated in the Vatican. What a joke! The world must demand Pope Francis to give all files on clergy
sexual abuse, in the Vatican an elsewhere, to the police for investigation and prosecution before the world
can ever trust again that the pope and Catholic Church have any moral authority.
Sincerely, Dr Rosemary Eileen McHugh, M.D., Chicago, Illinois

http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/2/the-vatican-stillprotectspedophilepriests.html
that's 30 seconds
Also,since I am too lazy to search I will use wikipedia :
In April 2010, it was reported that former bishop of the Norwegian Catholic Church, Georg Müller, had confessed to the Norwegian Police in early January 2010 that he had sexually abused an underaged altar boy 20 years earlier. The Norwegian Catholic Church was made aware of the incident but did not alert the authorities. Müller was made to step down as a bishop in July 2009.[75]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_sex_abuse_cases
Aren't they just clean innocent little...