UK govt wants all porn sites to prove you're adults

[Ifreann]

Helen Lovejoy? Is that you?

Why do you like child porn, Ifreann? HMM?!

I'm addicted to giving away my credit card details to any website that asks for them.

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Helen Lovejoy? Is that you?

Just so there's no misinterpretation here, is that you saying that there shouldn't be restrictions on pornographic material being available to children?

That's me saying that "Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children?!" is a shit response to "I oppose this proposed legislation".

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What I really don't get is why the age is at 18 when the age of consent is 16...

Because 18 is the age at which you can buy porn. Or appear in it, I believe.

[Totally Not Leningrad Union]

How is this a bad thing? Even if you're a Liberal you should see this isn't banning porn but only stopping kids from looking at it. The current system for adult material is a joke, any kid can lie when signing up for a website. This at least makes it a lot harder for kids to access explicit material, but it doesn't stop adults who want to look at it.

You mean to tell me that you never enjoyed porn when you were a minor? Never?

Unless you're asexual, just about everyone has and not everyone is a perverted rapist that is begging for sex every hour of the day.

[Alyakia]

How is this a bad thing? Even if you're a Liberal you should see this isn't banning porn but only stopping kids from looking at it. The current system for adult material is a joke, any kid can lie when signing up for a website. This at least makes it a lot harder for kids to access explicit material, but it doesn't stop adults who want to look at it.

well, for a start, signing up for websites is a bit outdated. as is giving your credit card details to porn sites.

I honestly think this is sensible.

Then again, I'm an adult.

Yeh man, setting the precedent that the government can add roadblocks to information access for ERMAGERD THINK OF THE CHILDREN reasons is a good idea.
The internet is no place for unsupervised children in the first place. It's like allowing your child to wander around in public with no observation. It's akin to neglect. But no, don't punish shitty parents, punish everyone else.

listen. there's no way for parents to control their children access to computers in general or use parental controls. we need the government to run our lives for us.

what do you mean they'll just bypass it?

[Ostroeuropa]

How is this a bad thing? Even if you're a Liberal you should see this isn't banning porn but only stopping kids from looking at it. The current system for adult material is a joke, any kid can lie when signing up for a website. This at least makes it a lot harder for kids to access explicit material, but it doesn't stop adults who want to look at it.

So you think that a kid who wants to access porn shouldn't be allowed to.
Why?
What possible purpose does that serve?
It's nonsense moral panic and prudishness.

When kids start to become sexually aware, that's precisely when we should be allowing them a little leeway, instead of stunting their experimentation and forcing them to do stupid shit like go have actual sex with eachother.

[The IASM]

How is this a bad thing? Even if you're a Liberal you should see this isn't banning porn but only stopping kids from looking at it. The current system for adult material is a joke, any kid can lie when signing up for a website. This at least makes it a lot harder for kids to access explicit material, but it doesn't stop adults who want to look at it.

You mean to tell me that you never enjoyed porn when you were a minor? Never?

Unless you're asexual, just about everyone has and not everyone is a perverted rapist that is begging for sex every hour of the day.

As usual I am the asexual in this situation.

Also I have though of a glorious way to bypass this law, just look at classical art.

[Shofercia]

Yes, it would make parents actually explain how sex works and to get their heads out of their rectum about abstinence only slut shaming when it comes to it. As for children well studies pretty much show Humans are incredibly interested in sexuality from a very young age [especially when it comes to genitals]. I suggest on all porn sites you include a popup which takes them to a site about sexual education or endure watching 5 minutes of C-SPAN in order to access it.

Or redirect all porn sites to Nickolodeon.
Doesn't matter if they're adults or not, they should be watching cartoons.

Teen Nick actually has some decent advice for kids on how to handle, or not handle, certain situations, i.e. DeGrassi. Although Cameron might be turned off by their slogan: "it goes there".

[Benuty]

Yes, it would make parents actually explain how sex works and to get their heads out of their rectum about abstinence only slut shaming when it comes to it. As for children well studies pretty much show Humans are incredibly interested in sexuality from a very young age [especially when it comes to genitals]. I suggest on all porn sites you include a popup which takes them to a site about sexual education or endure watching 5 minutes of C-SPAN in order to access it.

Or redirect all porn sites to Nickolodeon.
Doesn't matter if they're adults or not, they should be watching cartoons.

If the child has a reasonable mental capacity enough to differentiate porn from real life it shouldn't really matter.

[Vettrera]

How is this a bad thing? Even if you're a Liberal you should see this isn't banning porn but only stopping kids from looking at it. The current system for adult material is a joke, any kid can lie when signing up for a website. This at least makes it a lot harder for kids to access explicit material, but it doesn't stop adults who want to look at it.

I'm missing the part where you explain how porn is bad
Your argument is missing a step

[Ostroeuropa]

But remember guys, Labour is the party of the nanny state.
Because it does shit like make sure you can feed yourself.

This is totally different to being an overbearing parental figure.
The conservative party is nationalizing child raising because the free market is too shit at it.

[The IASM]

But remember guys, Labour is the party of the nanny state.
Because it does shit like make sure you can feed yourself.

This is totally different to being an overbearing parental figure.

The father state.

[Dooom35796821595]

What I really don't get is why the age is at 18 when the age of consent is 16...

It's about as logical as being unable to sell cigars to people under 18, but being allowed to smoke them when you turn 16.

It's more complex, age of consent is 16 to 18, and 18 and over. So an adult cannot sleep with a sixteen year old.

[Great Nepal]

How is this a bad thing? Even if you're a Liberal you should see this isn't banning porn but only stopping kids from looking at it. The current system for adult material is a joke, any kid can lie when signing up for a website. This at least makes it a lot harder for kids to access explicit material, but it doesn't stop adults who want to look at it.

I'm missing the part where you explain how porn is bad
Your argument is missing a step

Dont you know? If people see porn they will go out and star in porn then everyone will want to star in porn but there is not going to be enough porn for those people to star in and they will all get sex crazed. Then they will go and rape Cameron and produce Cameron twins to run the country for ever starting the cycle that will lead to earth being full of Camerons...
That is really how it works.

[Purpelia]

But remember guys, Labour is the party of the nanny state.
Because it does shit like make sure you can feed yourself.

This is totally different to being an overbearing parental figure.
The conservative party is nationalizing child raising because the free market is too shit at it.

A nanny state is NOT a bad thing. The state should be like a parent to it's people. The issue here is that the "parent" they are modeling it on in this case seems to be a rather disturbed individual.

[The UK in Exile]

It's about as logical as being unable to sell cigars to people under 18, but being allowed to smoke them when you turn 16.

It's more complex, age of consent is 16 to 18, and 18 and over. So an adult cannot sleep with a sixteen year old.

It's just flat 16.

[Benuty]

But remember guys, Labour is the party of the nanny state.
Because it does shit like make sure you can feed yourself.

This is totally different to being an overbearing parental figure.

Wait, Labour is actually interested again in the affairs of the common man?

[Ifreann]

But remember guys, Labour is the party of the nanny state.
Because it does shit like make sure you can feed yourself.

This is totally different to being an overbearing parental figure.

The father state.

The distant, unloving father state, who sends you off to boarding school.

[Totally Not Leningrad Union]

It's about as logical as being unable to sell cigars to people under 18, but being allowed to smoke them when you turn 16.

It's more complex, age of consent is 16 to 18, and 18 and over. So an adult cannot sleep with a sixteen year old.

That's pretty ridiculous. What if a 17 year old and a 19 year old were together. Laws regarding sex and drugs tend to be the fucking stupidest laws.

[Nervium]

Or redirect all porn sites to Nickolodeon.
Doesn't matter if they're adults or not, they should be watching cartoons.

Teen Nick actually has some decent advice for kids on how to handle, or not handle, certain situations, i.e. DeGrassi. Although Cameron might be turned off by their slogan: "it goes there".

God I love watching Teen Nick.


Anyway, other than doing this, wich is very reactionary, teach parents to like, dude, watch your kids. I guess that would be reasonable.

[Empire of Narnia]

How is this a bad thing? Even if you're a Liberal you should see this isn't banning porn but only stopping kids from looking at it. The current system for adult material is a joke, any kid can lie when signing up for a website. This at least makes it a lot harder for kids to access explicit material, but it doesn't stop adults who want to look at it.

You mean to tell me that you never enjoyed porn when you were a minor? Never?

Unless you're asexual, just about everyone has and not everyone is a perverted rapist that is begging for sex every hour of the day.

No, I couldn't even if I wanted to because of mother-enforced censorship.

[Ostroeuropa]

But remember guys, Labour is the party of the nanny state.
Because it does shit like make sure you can feed yourself.

This is totally different to being an overbearing parental figure.
The conservative party is nationalizing child raising because the free market is too shit at it.

A nanny state is NOT a bad thing. The state should be like a parent to it's people. The issue here is that the "parent" they are modeling it on in this case seems to be a rather disturbed individual.

Screw that. The ideal state is a butler.

[Totally Not Leningrad Union]

You mean to tell me that you never enjoyed porn when you were a minor? Never?

Unless you're asexual, just about everyone has and not everyone is a perverted rapist that is begging for sex every hour of the day.

No, I couldn't even if I wanted to because of mother-enforced censorship.

Don't you wish you did? You want to take away from others because you couldn't have access as a child?

[Fartsniffage]

It's about as logical as being unable to sell cigars to people under 18, but being allowed to smoke them when you turn 16.

It's more complex, age of consent is 16 to 18, and 18 and over. So an adult cannot sleep with a sixteen year old.

Is it? When did that change?

[Ifreann]

But remember guys, Labour is the party of the nanny state.
Because it does shit like make sure you can feed yourself.

This is totally different to being an overbearing parental figure.
The conservative party is nationalizing child raising because the free market is too shit at it.

A nanny state is NOT a bad thing. The state should be like a parent to it's people. The issue here is that the "parent" they are modeling it on in this case seems to be a rather disturbed individual.

You know, I wonder if David and Samantha ask their kids for a credit card number before letting them use their computers...

[The Sarian]

The legal age for sex is 16, the legal age for porn is 18.

#GovernmentLogic

[Totally Not Leningrad Union]

A nanny state is NOT a bad thing. The state should be like a parent to it's people. The issue here is that the "parent" they are modeling it on in this case seems to be a rather disturbed individual.

You know, I wonder if David and Samantha ask their kids for a credit card number before letting them use their computers...

I wouldn't be surprised one bit.