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Postby Divair2 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:46 am

The UK in Exile wrote:
Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason you think porn sites should be openly accessible to children?


None. There is also no reason to think that compelling people to disclose personal information to online porn sites is going to fix more problems than it causes either.

You mean kids who are far more tech-savvy can get around primitive attempts to block porn? No way!

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Postby Frazers » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:46 am

Ifreann wrote:
Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason you think porn sites should be openly accessible to children?

Helen Lovejoy? Is that you?


Just so there's no misinterpretation here, is that you saying that there shouldn't be restrictions on pornographic material being available to children?

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Postby Totally Not Leningrad Union » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:46 am

Good thing I don't live in the UK. ;)

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Postby Nervium » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:47 am

I honestly think this is sensible.

Then again, I'm an adult.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:47 am

haha, remember when trying to block piratebay worked? Yea me neither. What exactly are government going to do to website based in Japan if it says "no" or if someone uses a overseas proxy?
Not to mention there is no reason why this should be implemented by government. If parents are concerned about their kids looking porn they can use parental controls.
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:47 am

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Ifreann wrote:Helen Lovejoy? Is that you?

Why do you like child porn, Ifreann? HMM?!

Children seeing child porn, and dealing the porns to their friends. Soon, children will be selling their bodies on the streets,
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Postby Havenburgh » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:48 am

I, for o.e, is against the UK on this. They should not be worrying about what basiy every teenager does. Without the teenagers, the porn sites would barely make any money. So their ya go, even money gone. Do do this UK, you tyrants.

Howany of you have watched porn, amd be honest!

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Postby Avenio » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:48 am

The UK in Exile wrote:
Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason you think porn sites should be openly accessible to children?


None. There is also no reason to think that compelling people to disclose personal information to online porn sites is going to fix more problems than it causes either.


After all, nothing could possibly go wrong in having to input credit card details in order to access sketchy websites. Absolutely nothing.

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Postby Howltaria » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:48 am

And again, this is the state encroaching on individual freedoms. If I want to watch porn I should be able to watch porn if I want to. It's up to parents to monitor little Johnies internet, not for the government. I'm sure there'll be a loophole or loopholes around this anyway.

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Postby The IASM » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:48 am

The fuck! The more you hide things from people, the more they seek them out - why haven't the Tories learn't that yet. Did they not see the results of their obvious blocking program.
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Postby Divair2 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:48 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Divair2 wrote:Why do you like child porn, Ifreann? HMM?!

Children seeing child porn, and dealing the porns to their friends. Soon, children will be selling their bodies on the streets,

We have to ban children viewing their bodies. What if they start thinking other children are attractive? What has this world come to?!

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Postby Arumdaum » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:48 am

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Postby Totally Not Leningrad Union » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:48 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Divair2 wrote:Why do you like child porn, Ifreann? HMM?!

Children seeing child porn, and dealing the porns to their friends. Soon, children will be selling their bodies on the streets,

"Dealing"? Who actually purchases or downloads it?
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Postby Mollary » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:49 am

What I really don't get is why the age is at 18 when the age of consent is 16...
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Postby Britannic Realms » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:49 am

I don't care. It's one of those laws which the government passes for the hell of it, knowing that it's unenforceable and everyone will ignore it.
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Postby Divair2 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:50 am

Mollary wrote:What I really don't get is why the age is at 18 when the age of consent is 16...

It's about as logical as being unable to sell cigars to people under 18, but being allowed to smoke them when you turn 16.

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Postby Destrovia » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:52 am

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Postby Benuty » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:52 am

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason you think porn sites should be openly accessible to children?

Yes, it would make parents actually explain how sex works and to get their heads out of their rectum about abstinence only slut shaming when it comes to it. As for children well studies pretty much show Humans are incredibly interested in sexuality from a very young age [especially when it comes to genitals]. I suggest on all porn sites you include a popup which takes them to a site about sexual education or endure watching 5 minutes of C-SPAN in order to access it.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:53 am

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason you think porn sites should be openly accessible to children?


If they are searching for porn, they are ready for porn. If they can't find it, they are going to be frustrated and likely to do stupid shit.
Is there a reason you want to stunt childrens emotional growth?

This whole moral panic is completely stupid.
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Postby Gay Equality Ambassador 1 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:53 am

I think this is all a load of c**p. Kids my age will always watch porn. It isn't even debatable; they will!

Furthermore, I think the worries of children watching pornography are highly overrated. They say porn teaches boys to act differently with women, I cannot comment on that (look at my nation name haha). However, that is not the case in gay porn. (Again, I'm not saying that it is in straight, I just only understand homosexual). I have watched porn for years, and that has been both for enjoyment and education. There is hardly any sexual education anymore, never mind that of LGBT.

The answer is not to block porn sites, but to educate children on sex (and porn) and also for us to make it so that kids are more comfortable about discussing said subject.

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Postby Empire of Narnia » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:53 am

How is this a bad thing? Even if you're a Liberal you should see this isn't banning porn but only stopping kids from looking at it. The current system for adult material is a joke, any kid can lie when signing up for a website. This at least makes it a lot harder for kids to access explicit material, but it doesn't stop adults who want to look at it.

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Postby Shofercia » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:53 am

Divair2 wrote:http://www.thedrum.com/news/2014/04/20/government-introduce-law-requiring-porn-sites-obtain-proof-users-are-over-18

The Government plans to make anyone aiming to view porn online prove that they are over 18 years of age through new requirements for website owners.

The new laws will see adult website owners forced to block anyone unable to provide proof that they are over the age of 18, in a bid to crack down on children viewing pornographic websites, The Sunday Times has reported.

The system is expected to be similar to one used abroad, with credit card details or official records being provided those visiting pornographic websites in order to gain access. Sites that fail to comply with the measures will be blocked.

A statement from the Department for Culture, Media and Sport, said: “We are legislating to put R18 material that can only be sold in licensed sex shops behind access controls on video-on demand services.

“The same protections should apply online as offline and we are clarifying the law to make sure that is the case — we want the legislation to be in place by the end of the year. No decision has been made about offshore sites.”

The proposal would follow Prime Minister David Cameron’s introduction of web filters by internet providers to block access to unsuitable material, and combat online child pornography.


Fuck the Tory govt. This type of authoritarian shit is the exact reason why I absolutely detest David Cameron.


No more porn for Div :lol2:

It's weird actually, I remember someone asked me for a credit card number to view porn once. I left that website, and never came back, thinking it was a scam. Turns out it was the UK Government. IMHO, the government should harshly crack down on porn sites where the actors are kids, but if the actors are all 18 or older, and a teen views it, it's not going to be that devastating. Not to mention the sheer availability of this stuff that can be accessed from other countries via proxies. A lot more damage is done to the kids with the repeated sex drive and peer pressure that society encourages, than porn sites. "What the fuck, you graduated high school a virgin" shouldn't be that big a deal, it should be the norm.

Stuff like this is actually more destructive than porn: http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/effe ... 14531.html

University of California, Berkeley professor Stephen Hinshaw and author Rachel Kranz, in their book "The Triple Bind," discuss the negative effects of social pressure on teenage girls. According to Hinshaw and Kranz, teen girls are under intense pressure from both peers and parents to excel in every area of life simultaneously. They are expected to be honor roll students and star athletes, to do some form of extracurricular charity work and to have steady relationships at a young age. They are expected to be highly successful by all measurable standards while staying in shape and conforming to the traditional model of girls who are sweet and nurturing.

Kranz and Hinshaw believe that the social pressure to be perfect in too many aspects of life is causing an epidemic of mental and emotional problems in teenage girls. Twenty percent of girls between the ages of 10 to 19 experience a major depressive episode. Five to 10 percent of teenage girls suffer from an eating disorder. As of 2005, 10 percent attempt suicide, and compared to past years, more of these attempts are serious. The percentage of teenage girls who self-injure by cutting themselves is not known, but Kranz and Hinshaw believe it has been increasing rapidly.

Hinshaw advises parents to help their teenage daughters step back from the pressure to be seen as perfect. He encourages teen girls to concentrate on figuring out their own identities and what they want out of life instead of concentrating so much on building a strong resume for the future. By encouraging your daughter to think more about what she really wants for herself, you can help reduce some of the dangerous social pressure to achieve perfection.


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Postby Nervium » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:54 am

Benuty wrote:
Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason you think porn sites should be openly accessible to children?

Yes, it would make parents actually explain how sex works and to get their heads out of their rectum about abstinence only slut shaming when it comes to it. As for children well studies pretty much show Humans are incredibly interested in sexuality from a very young age [especially when it comes to genitals]. I suggest on all porn sites you include a popup which takes them to a site about sexual education or endure watching 5 minutes of C-SPAN in order to access it.


Or redirect all porn sites to Nickolodeon.
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Postby Destrovia » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:54 am

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason you think porn sites should be openly accessible to children?

Well it's better than the kid with sexual cravings attempting actual sex at his age.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:55 am

Nervium wrote:I honestly think this is sensible.

Then again, I'm an adult.


Yeh man, setting the precedent that the government can add roadblocks to information access for ERMAGERD THINK OF THE CHILDREN reasons is a good idea.
The internet is no place for unsupervised children in the first place. It's like allowing your child to wander around in public with no observation. It's akin to neglect. But no, don't punish shitty parents, punish everyone else.
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