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UK govt wants all porn sites to prove you're adults

Postby Divair2 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:32 am

http://www.thedrum.com/news/2014/04/20/ ... re-over-18

The Government plans to make anyone aiming to view porn online prove that they are over 18 years of age through new requirements for website owners.

The new laws will see adult website owners forced to block anyone unable to provide proof that they are over the age of 18, in a bid to crack down on children viewing pornographic websites, The Sunday Times has reported.

The system is expected to be similar to one used abroad, with credit card details or official records being provided those visiting pornographic websites in order to gain access. Sites that fail to comply with the measures will be blocked.

A statement from the Department for Culture, Media and Sport, said: “We are legislating to put R18 material that can only be sold in licensed sex shops behind access controls on video-on demand services.

“The same protections should apply online as offline and we are clarifying the law to make sure that is the case — we want the legislation to be in place by the end of the year. No decision has been made about offshore sites.”

The proposal would follow Prime Minister David Cameron’s introduction of web filters by internet providers to block access to unsuitable material, and combat online child pornography.


Fuck the Tory govt. This type of authoritarian shit is the exact reason why I absolutely detest David Cameron.
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Postby Alyakia » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:34 am

i remember when everyone on NSG was saying this wouldn't happen and called people that said it would paranoid liars

lol

oh, and people deliberately misunderstanding the difference between opt-in and out-out. you opt-in to opt-out, so it's opt-in!

edit: holy shit actually this is perfect material for the new thread i keep meaning to make
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:34 am

Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason you think porn sites should be openly accessible to children?

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Postby Divair2 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:35 am

Alyakia wrote:i remember when everyone on NSG was saying this wouldn't happen and called people that said it would paranoid liars

lol

oh, and people deliberately misunderstanding the difference between opt-in and out-out. you opt-in to opt-out, so it's opt-in!

So now we have to call and ask our ISP's to opt-in to view porn, and prove we're 18. And then we have to prove it again by providing CC details to every single porn site. What about adults who don't have CC details? The Tory govt is apparently full of people who are so old they have no fucking clue how internet porn works.

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Postby Avenio » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:35 am

The system is expected to be similar to one used abroad, with credit card details or official records being provided those visiting pornographic websites in order to gain access. Sites that fail to comply with the measures will be blocked.


Err, where is this 'abroad', exactly? Saudi Arabia?

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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:36 am

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason you think porn sites should be openly accessible to children?


I think he just doesn't want his name on the sites he visits :p
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Postby Viritica » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:36 am

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Postby Avenio » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:38 am

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason you think porn sites should be openly accessible to children?


So you think that NS should require its players to provide a birth certificate upon registry that proves they are 13 or older?

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Postby Divair2 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:38 am

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason you think porn sites should be openly accessible to children?

It's not so much access for children, but:
1. CC details are an absolutely horrid way of proving identification because:
A. You can simply use someone else's CC
B. Increases the risk of CC fraud
C. Some people simply don't have CC's
2. This is a waste of important govt resources. Parents should be dealing with parental control, not the govt
3. An above-18 limit doesn't make any sense when pretty much every teen over the age of 13 or 14 over the past few decades has watched porn

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:38 am

It must be weird, being confused by the way this 'internet' fad works.
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Postby Frazers » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:39 am

I have no problems with this whatsoever. Its a minor inconvenience.

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Postby Alyakia » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:40 am

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason you think porn sites should be openly accessible to children?


do you think the current system is so broken that we literally need to call up the chinese (this is not a joke) and ask them to help us build a great firewall that will only be used to protect the children i swear and maybe totes accidentally ban non-pornographic websites for LGBT teens? (which has already happened) (oh and in i think finland they started banning anti-government sites too, lol)

it's actually pretty disingenuous when people frame opposition to policies like this as "why do you want children to get porn?"

not forgetting that massive government filter isn't actually the only way to stop kids getting porn.
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Postby Divair2 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:40 am

Conserative Morality wrote:It must be weird, being confused by the way this 'internet' fad works.

Do you access the internets on your Gameboy? Is the Google even safe from viruses?

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:41 am

Alyakia wrote:do you think the current system is so broken that we literally need to call up the chinese (this is not a joke) and ask them to help us build a great firewall that will only be used to protect the children i swear and maybe totes accidentally ban non-pornographic websites for LGBT teens? (which has already happened) (oh and in i think finland they started banning anti-government sites too, lol)

it's actually pretty disingenuous when people frame opposition to policies like this as "why do you want children to get porn?!"

not forgetting that massive government filter isn't actually the only way to stop kids getting porn.

But how are you supposed to make your moralizing views apparent if you don't get the law involved?
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:41 am

I don't see the point of this at all. Teenagers looking at porn is a national security issue?
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Postby Bolkania » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:41 am

Great idea. Perhaps my friends won't loss sleep and stay awake till 3:00am.

Still, VPNs?

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Postby Alyakia » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:42 am

Conserative Morality wrote:
Alyakia wrote:do you think the current system is so broken that we literally need to call up the chinese (this is not a joke) and ask them to help us build a great firewall that will only be used to protect the children i swear and maybe totes accidentally ban non-pornographic websites for LGBT teens? (which has already happened) (oh and in i think finland they started banning anti-government sites too, lol)

it's actually pretty disingenuous when people frame opposition to policies like this as "why do you want children to get porn?!"

not forgetting that massive government filter isn't actually the only way to stop kids getting porn.

But how are you supposed to make your moralizing views apparent if you don't get the law involved?


huh? david cameron would never do such a thing
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Divair2 wrote:Do you access the internets on your Gameboy? Is the Google even safe from viruses?

I think it's clear at this point, that nothing is safe,
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Postby Conserative Morality » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:43 am

Alyakia wrote:huh? david cameron would never do such a thing

Of course, of course, perish the thought.
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Postby Aequalitia » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:44 am

Sorry but serious, how exactly this idea even would become handled?
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:44 am

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason you think porn sites should be openly accessible to children?

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Conserative Morality wrote:
Divair2 wrote:Do you access the internets on your Gameboy? Is the Google even safe from viruses?

I think it's clear at this point, that nothing is safe,

The govt should simply seize all children and place them in protective bubbles to protect them from the evil, evil world.

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Postby New haven america » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:45 am

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Postby The UK in Exile » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:45 am

Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason you think porn sites should be openly accessible to children?


None. There is also no reason to think that compelling people to disclose personal information to online porn sites is going to fix more problems than it causes either.
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Postby Divair2 » Sun Apr 20, 2014 11:45 am

Ifreann wrote:
Dread Lady Nathicana wrote:Out of idle curiosity, is there a reason you think porn sites should be openly accessible to children?

Helen Lovejoy? Is that you?

Why do you like child porn, Ifreann? HMM?!

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