Which God?

[Risottia]

And the FSM's existence is disproved by the fact that noodles, let alone spaghetti, were invented only 4000 years ago at the earliest.

Do you know that for sure?

Oh, and even if, FSM is still older than the 'god' of christianity (who was made up some 2010 years ago) or the 'allah' of islam who was made up 1400 years ago.

FSM wins again

1.FSM is all-powerful and likes complicated things, as anyone who remembers the first time he ate spaghetti can confirm. This is why he created the world one gazillion years ago, then fudged with evidence to lure people into believing that spaghetti are only 4000 years old. It's a test of the faith.

2.Also spaghetti taste better than the eucharist, at least according to what some RC friends of mine say.

Hence, FSM totally pwns.

[Velka Morava]

Alright believers. Let's say I'm willing to grant the supernatural entity's existence, that I've had a personal revelation that leads me to say, "I have felt the presence". Which religion should I follow?

A non-genocidal one.

I know it's difficult to find such a god.

Priapus?

[Manahakatouki]

4 Random guys all looking the same and acting the same..... 4 Random Guys

[Risottia]

Alright believers. Let's say I'm willing to grant the supernatural entity's existence, that I've had a personal revelation that leads me to say, "I have felt the presence". Which religion should I follow?

A non-genocidal one.

I know it's difficult to find such a god.

Priapus?

That's a good one, though he has been confronting allegations of rape.

[Kobrania]

One god that isn't genocidal
Don
Other Names: Donn, Dhonn. Dunn
Location: Ireland, Wales.
Description: Sometimes called a Goddess and sometimes called a God. Ruled over the land of the dead.
Rules Over: Control of the elements, eloquence.
Claims: First 'man' on earth.

[Velka Morava]

Alright believers. Let's say I'm willing to grant the supernatural entity's existence, that I've had a personal revelation that leads me to say, "I have felt the presence". Which religion should I follow?

A non-genocidal one.

I know it's difficult to find such a god.

Priapus?

That's a good one, though he has been confronting allegations of rape.

All false fabrications by Baccus.

[Angleter]

As an aside, the Christian God and Islamic Allah are the same thing

Not really, the concepts are mutually exclusive. Because this fella 'jesus' cannot be the 'son of god' and 'not the son of god but a minor prophet' at the same time. And as far as I can remember, 'jesus = son of god' is a pretty central concept in christianity, a concept which islam specifically and explicitly denies. The funny thing is, islam is more correct here than christianity, because it says 'jesus = not son of god', since there is no 'god' they are correct. But where islam goes wrong, is that they bring in a concept of 'allah' which also doesn't exist. And this fella Muhammad suffered from a complete lack of morals (to put it mildly).

Its an uncomfortable fact for many religious folks, but I thought I'd mention it nonetheless.

Actuellement, it is the same God. Of course Jesus can't be God's Son and not God's Son at the same time, but that just shows that the Abrahamic religions disagree on various things about their shared God and have different versions of events of what happened with Him.

It is NOT the same concept, and not just because neither exists. The concept of 'allah' came from pagan Arab tribes and the concept 'god' came from semitic tribes in a different area. Of course, both concepts are utter hokey.

Proving, you are completely religiously ignorant, first off, The Islamic Faith believes in the one true God as revealed by the prophet Abraham, as does Christianity and Judaism, they stem from the same source, the word "Allah" is the Islamic Word for Yahweh, Islam believes in it's scriptures that Christianity and Judaism are both fellow religions of the book. So much so that they are the only other people who can make food "halal" and the only other religions that Islam allows to live freely under Sharia Law.

Jesus being divine and not just a mortal is debated even within certain sects of Christianity, it isn't written in stone, in fact it wasn't even decided until the Nicene Council, 200 years later. But the majority of Christians, (like me) believe that he was the son of God.

Islam believes that he was a prophet and that he was a great teacher, as the Jews believe he was a great man, but neither believe he was divine, that is up to them.

The fact remains all three believe in the first books of the bible and the God of Abraham

^This.

Fred Smith is still Fred Smith whether his son's a butcher or a baker.

The concept of 'Allah', which translates as 'God' from Arabic, came from Muhammad's revelations after years of soul-searching and interest in Christianity and Judaism. If he did make it up or his mind played tricks on him, it was the God of Abraham (through the Angel Gabriel- was he two different concepts derived one from Jews (please note that 'Semitic' also incorporates Arabs) and the other from pagan Arabs?) who he attributed the messages to.

Maybe if you bothered to learn more about religions you would be more willing to respect them.

[The Alma Mater]

As an aside, the Christian God and Islamic Allah are the same thing

Not really, the concepts are mutually exclusive. Because this fella 'jesus' cannot be the 'son of god' and 'not the son of god but a minor prophet' at the same time. And as far as I can remember, 'jesus = son of god' is a pretty central concept in christianity, a concept which islam specifically and explicitly denies. The funny thing is, islam is more correct here than christianity, because it says 'jesus = not son of god', since there is no 'god' they are correct. But where islam goes wrong, is that they bring in a concept of 'allah' which also doesn't exist. And this fella Muhammad suffered from a complete lack of morals (to put it mildly).

Its an uncomfortable fact for many religious folks, but I thought I'd mention it nonetheless.

Actuellement, it is the same God. Of course Jesus can't be God's Son and not God's Son at the same time, but that just shows that the Abrahamic religions disagree on various things about their shared God and have different versions of events of what happened with Him.

It is NOT the same concept, and not just because neither exists. The concept of 'allah' came from pagan Arab tribes and the concept 'god' came from semitic tribes in a different area. Of course, both concepts are utter hokey.

Proving, you are completely religiously ignorant, first off, The Islamic Faith believes in the one true God as revealed by the prophet Abraham, as does Christianity and Judaism, they stem from the same source, the word "Allah" is the Islamic Word for Yahweh, Islam believes in it's scriptures that Christianity and Judaism are both fellow religions of the book. So much so that they are the only other people who can make food "halal" and the only other religions that Islam allows to live freely under Sharia Law.

Jesus being divine and not just a mortal is debated even within certain sects of Christianity, it isn't written in stone, in fact it wasn't even decided until the Nicene Council, 200 years later. But the majority of Christians, (like me) believe that he was the son of God.

Islam believes that he was a prophet and that he was a great teacher, as the Jews believe he was a great man, but neither believe he was divine, that is up to them.

The fact remains all three believe in the first books of the bible and the God of Abraham

^This.

Fred Smith is still Fred Smith whether his son's a butcher or a baker.

The concept of 'Allah', which translates as 'God' from Arabic, came from Muhammad's revelations after years of soul-searching and interest in Christianity and Judaism. If he did make it up or his mind played tricks on him, it was the God of Abraham (through the Angel Gabriel- was he two different concepts derived one from Jews (please note that 'Semitic' also incorporates Arabs) and the other from pagan Arabs?) who he attributed the messages to.

Maybe if you bothered to learn more about religions you would be more willing to respect them.

The Jewish God was invented by semetic tribes.
The Christian God was based on the Jewish one, with some Mithraistic, Egyptian (especially Osiris) and several Germanic influences thrown in. The Catholic church in particular also adopted quite a few paganistic rituals.
The Islamic God was based on the Jewish one, with some Egyptian and Arabic religions thrown into the mix.

Saying that they are all the same guy has *some* basis in truth - but no more than some. They merely share some roots.

[Abdju]

My gods are the only true gods... Everyone else's are full of fail

Didn't Jack O'Neill kill most of them?

Rumours of Their deaths are greatly exaggerated

More seriously, I really object to that franchise, and not only because of the obvious "Holy shit, dude, that's just wrong" factor, though it is a pretty strong reason in and of itself.

[Imsogone]

Well, having read a good portion of this I can only say "you're on your own, sucker."

[Soviet Commu-Facism]

Jesus/God (Christianity is definitely the way to go. Read The Case for Christ

Lord of the Rings is fiction too, but more entertaining. So no, thanks.

That's a pretty broad statement to make. Read God at Ground Zero; that is totally non-fiction, in fact, it's more of a biography. Not to mention there are millions of stories people who have stories to tell about God, ask any number of them, they are all very good and the majority are very true.

You have no way to prove that "the majority are very true." Assertions of truth in the factual sense of "true" are always totally unprovable for ALL religions, including the one you like. The mere fact that millions of people tell stories does not in any way prove that those stories are true.

In any event, I would argue that claims of "truth" -- meaning external, factual actuality -- are not a reason to worship a god -- any god -- because such claims are always observably false, and almost always traceable to a self-serving motive on behalf of those who promote said claims the most loudly.

In my opinion, a far better reason to worship a god is that said god answers a personal inner need, for which no external proof or testament of others is needed, and for which an understanding of truth or lack thereof is intuitive.

I meant that these were things that actually happened, personal stories not Biblical stories. Although 'I' feel the stories of the Bible to be true, I can't make anyone else, even if I could prove them, and I do have some supporting truths. But the stories from other people are all stories that have happened and I know a number of them. If you would like I could tell you a few, but there are many. But still... LET ME BE YOUR GOD!!!! I WILL PURGE YOUR PEOPLE OF IMPURITIES!!!!

[Abdju]

i'm still waiting for john frum to bring me much cargo, myself.

Your shipment of cargo may be delayed, due to confusion regarding the principles of aircraft design amongst the faithful.

[Soviet Commu-Facism]

Teehee! Aeroflot; let us take you there! Like I said, let me be your God, we have smart airline services, and no one goes on strike, otherwise we shoots tem! HAHA!

[F1-Insanity]

Proving, you are completely religiously ignorant, first off, The Islamic Faith believes in the one true God as revealed by the prophet Abraham, as does Christianity and Judaism, they stem from the same source, the word "Allah" is the Islamic Word for Yahweh, Islam believes in it's scriptures that Christianity and Judaism are both fellow religions of the book. So much so that they are the only other people who can make food "halal" and the only other religions that Islam allows to live freely under Sharia Law.

Wrong, islam 'graciously' allows christianity and judaism inferior status ptovided christians and jews pay the islamic religious tax (those that do not are to be killed, according to islam). Which you conveniently ignored when typing your answer.

Fred Smith is still Fred Smith whether his son's a butcher or a baker.

Pastor Deacon Fred Smith is one of the few preachers I'm willing to listen to.

Maybe if you bothered to learn more about religions you would be more willing to respect them.

Maybe if you bothered to learn more about socalled 'religions' like christianity and islam you would know they are the two most intolerant, supremacist and murderous ideologies of all time. Religion is not something good, it is something extremely bad. Particularly the Abrahamic ones, because those three, and mainly the bigger two see themselves as 'more special' than other 'religions' and seem to demand respect without giving it back.

[Soviet Commu-Facism]

Proving, you are completely religiously ignorant, first off, The Islamic Faith believes in the one true God as revealed by the prophet Abraham, as does Christianity and Judaism, they stem from the same source, the word "Allah" is the Islamic Word for Yahweh, Islam believes in it's scriptures that Christianity and Judaism are both fellow religions of the book. So much so that they are the only other people who can make food "halal" and the only other religions that Islam allows to live freely under Sharia Law.

Wrong, islam 'graciously' allows christianity and judaism inferior status ptovided christians and jews pay the islamic religious tax (those that do not are to be killed, according to islam). Which you conveniently ignored when typing your answer.

Fred Smith is still Fred Smith whether his son's a butcher or a baker.

Pastor Deacon Fred Smith is one of the few preachers I'm willing to listen to.

Maybe if you bothered to learn more about religions you would be more willing to respect them.

Maybe if you bothered to learn more about socalled 'religions' like christianity and islam you would know they are the two most intolerant, supremacist and murderous ideologies of all time. Religion is not something good, it is something extremely bad. Particularly the Abrahamic ones, because those three, and mainly the bigger two see themselves as 'more special' than other 'religions' and seem to demand respect without giving it back.

Sorry but your mostly wrong. You need to read the Bible, and so do all of the intolerant so-called "Christians." Jesus was the most loving man in history, read some of his stories and you will understand. Jesus did things the intolerant Christians would never dream of doing. He hung out with prostitutes, tax collectors (who were the scum of the Earth back then) and many others, not because he liked what they did, but because he loved them. These Christian religions that are intolerant and live in America are NOT what Jesus wanted, but then again, Jesus also talked AGAINST religion. Religion is something created by a man, and stand up sit down sort of thing, but what Christianity is supposed to be is having a relationship with God and Jesus. And the intolerant ones are mostly in the US, who ,in my opinion, is the most messed up country in the world.

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

i'm still waiting for john frum to bring me much cargo, myself.

I read the God Delusion, so I know what you're talking about. I think that the very existence of such cargo cults should give pause to every bible-beating fundamentalist out there.

[Soviet Commu-Facism]

i'm still waiting for john frum to bring me much cargo, myself.

I read the God Delusion, so I know what you're talking about. I think that the very existence of such cargo cults should give pause to every bible-beating fundamentalist out there.

What are you talking about? I am so confused!

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

What are you talking about? I am so confused!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult

[Soviet Commu-Facism]

Ah! I see a little more now. How interesting. I must say that my nation has probably led to a few of those, what with our satellite weapons platforms and such.

[F1-Insanity]

Jesus was the most loving man in history, read some of his stories and you will understand.

Yes, he 'loves' us all, except when we don't believe his B.S.

I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son. But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars — their place will be
in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

Let's see... who shall go to hell according to the bible:
cowardly: John Kerry e.a.
unbelieving: me e.a.
the vile: Nancy Pelosi e.a.
the murderers: ...
the sexually immoral: teh gays, unmarried folks who have 'done it' at least once ie probably most people
those who practise magic arts: wiccans e.a.
the idolators: everyone who ever watched American Idol
all liars: Bill Clinton e.a.

If I didn't know this 'hell' was made up by powerhungry types to scare the gullible crowd, I'd not be best pleased about the likely overcrowdedness of the place, which in itself could be considered 'hell'.

[The Alma Mater]

Jesus was the most loving man in history, read some of his stories and you will understand

SNORT.
I personally know half a dozen people vastly more loving than Jesus. And I do not even know many people.
Maybe you should find better company if you think "Jesus was the most loving man in history" ?

[Techno-Soviet]

T.R., because he kills things.

[Senestrum]

I am a devout believer in her holiness the Invisible Pink Unicorn.

[The Kropotkinite Union]

I am a devout believer in her holiness the Invisible Pink Unicorn.

HAIL THE IPU! BELIEVE OR BURN!

[Acadzia]

Let's see... who shall go to hell according to the bible:

the idolators: everyone who ever watched American Idol

I lol'd