Which God?

[Coffin-Breathe]

If you like people who are cutting down on other religions by talking about what all the fanatics did, choose The Union of Amestris. Even Islam isn't all like that. Every religion has it's fanatics, but that isn't necessarily what the religion believes. For instance, the witch burning was the Puritans. All other religions either didn't do it or stopped really early on. Puritanism was also banned if I remember correctly, so no more witch burnings.

You should have told this to the estimated two millions of women and men, burnt over the centuries in Europe (and elsewhere). They would have been very glad to hear this - or at least you might convince the pope, that there were more than "maybe some mistakes, but basically nothing to regret". Not to talk about all the others burnt at the stake by catholics for heresy, not being faithful enough or else...
You better get your history right, boy, otherwise I´ll refuse to talk to you anymore, and simply call you an unteachable narrow-minded troll-fanatic...

[Coffin-Breathe]

I don't get it. By what do you mean, "Opium to the people"? And where might I get some of these... Fine wares?

The Words of Mao-Tse-Tung, commonly known as the "Mao-Bible" or the "little red book"...
"Know thine enemy well; gather some intelligence and information...", "Sun-Tsu"
Take my humble advise and read up a little bit more, maybe add a little basic stuff about communism and socialism to your little "capitalistic and religious" bookshelf, which would maybe change your mind as well...

[Morsion]

i don't believe in god, case in point, the babel fish. The babel fish crawls into a beings ear, then can translate any language into the beings language so the said being can understand it. Now, something like this COULD NOT have evolved, so it proves god exists, however, proof denies faith, and without faith god is nothing, so, therefore, god does not exist.

[Coffin-Breathe]

...this might be helpful...

http://www.evilbible.com/
http://www.godisimaginary.com/

[Coffin-Breathe]

i don't believe in god, case in point, the babel fish. The babel fish crawls into a beings ear, then can translate any language into the beings language so the said being can understand it. Now, something like this COULD NOT have evolved, so it proves god exists, however, proof denies faith, and without faith god is nothing, so, therefore, god does not exist.

...but...but...but the holy babel fish is said to be far away from translating perfect - so how can such thing being worshipped and prayed to ?

[Free Soviets]

i'm still waiting for john frum to bring me much cargo, myself.

I think that the very existence of such cargo cults should give pause to every bible-beating fundamentalist out there.

yeah, especially when combined with the geographic problem.

[Soviet Commu-Facism]

Choice is entirely up to you.
i think it's how you want to end...

If you like being crussified, choose judism.
If you like to be burned, choose christianity
If you like to blow yourself up together with flying parts from a blue prius, choose islam
If you like to fall into your own sword, choose Shintoism
If you like to die by a bus because of karma, choose confusionism.
If you don't feel like dying, choose buddhism
If you see unicorns at random moments at like them to kill you, choose animism

So what will it be ?

If you like people who are cutting down on other religions by talking about what all the fanatics did, choose The Union of Amestris. Even Islam isn't all like that. Every religion has it's fanatics, but that isn't necessarily what the religion believes. For instance, the witch burning was the Puritans. All other religions either didn't do it or stopped really early on. Puritanism was also banned if I remember correctly, so no more witch burnings.

Damn you !!!
Can't you even take a joke ?
You're supposed to say "religion is opium to the people" so zip it would ya

I don't get it. By what do you mean, "Opium to the people"? And where might I get some of these... Fine wares?

You're the worst commie ever

Worst ROLEPLAY commie ever. Plus there is some Fascism mixed in with it, so Commu-Fascist.

Fascist lost the war, and you suck as commie, worst commu-fascist ever

I'm not talking in terms of WW2 my friend. And besides, I have heard many people refer to America as a Fascist nation! Besides, how am I not following it right? I have the economics of Communism, and the belief in a race of perfect people ruling above all from the Fascist side. What did I do wrong? I invented this kind of Commu-Fascism! It should be called; Sithian Commu-Fascism. There! I have named my politics!

Oh, I also had a good chat with my pastor about the whole missing books of the Bible thing, I remember someone bringing it up here I think. Those books aren't missing, but they weren't necessarily added. I am saying that because I don't want to say my belief is above someone else's, but those books had very little relevance and were not God inspired, well, at least we believe that, but that is a debate between Catholics and Christians. Anyways, those missing books were more of historical accounts that the Catholics thought were important and part of the Bible, so they put it in their Bible. I don't know exactly what Martin Luther thought, but those books were simply historical pieces of Jewish faith. And someone here I think may have said that the Jewish religion was the oldest. I owe them a half apology. Jesus himself was born a Jew, and the old testament Jews are believed to be the oldest religion. However, around 1000 AD or so, the old Jewish religion of Pharisees and the like was gone and replaced by the modern Jewish faith. So as I said, half apology. I was merely getting ahead of myself thinking that all those old Jewish believers were Christians, but Christian means to have Jesus in you, and not all Jews accepted him as the one that was meant to save them. This debate however is best left between the religions and faiths involved as an Atheist can't understand what these things are fully about. You must experience it to know, and those of you that say you have not felt it, or else you would still be Christian. And, I do not believe that Agnostic Christian can even count as being Christian as they don't believe in God or Jesus, just the "nice philosophy." But Christianity is all about God and Jesus, not the nice teachings. Therefore, agnostic-Christians are a living oxymoron as Christianity is black and white; you either are or you aren't, there is no gray. Once more, only a Cristian can know what this means.

[WhatchaTalkinBout]

My religion is in my sig. CONVERT NOW!

[Soviet Commu-Facism]

My religion is in my sig. CONVERT NOW!

Whats a Haruhi? Issat likea pumah! I lovea mah pumahs! THIS IS PUMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

[Tauntoga]

The great God Dievas and the Lithuanian pantheon.

Teutons thought they had them beat. Ha!

[WhatchaTalkinBout]

My religion is in my sig. CONVERT NOW!

Whats a Haruhi? Issat likea pumah! I lovea mah pumahs! THIS IS PUMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Whoa. Now lets get you some nice medication for you to take...

[Coffin-Breathe]

I'm not talking in terms of WW2 my friend. And besides, I have heard many people refer to America as a Fascist nation! Besides, how am I not following it right? I have the economics of Communism, and the belief in a race of perfect people ruling above all from the Fascist side. What did I do wrong? I invented this kind of Commu-Fascism! It should be called; Sithian Commu-Fascism. There! I have named my politics!

Since communism is based on the equality of all people, but fascism is based on a structure, where some (theoretically the best) are leading, there´s a contradiction in commu-fascism, means, it´s a impossibility...while favoring some "superior" race is simply racism, not fascism.
Communism is meant to be the ruling of the masses (of everyone), but fascism bundles the power for a few (rulers)...
In history both systems invented some governmental planned and controled economics, quite similar to each other (in the outcome, not in the meaning).
You´ve been bragging about some political classes in school, you might debate your cause there, but I assure you, they will tell you the same. While it´s no problem to name a nation however you want to here in NS, in real life there´s no such thing as commu-fascism, because it´s a contradiction in itself.

[Callisdrun]

The Great God Om!

Thread won.

[Kantria]

A Sun god. Choose one—doesn't matter. Pretty sure they're all the same g(irl)uy. I mean, jeez—whoever it is, they are the god of the freakin' Sun. You don't wanna piss them off, do you? I mean, you should probably give lip service to the others, but if you get them angry, you'll have time to make amends, but if you get on the bad side of the Sun god, who's to say they won't just blow that fucker up?

[My 3rd Floor Flat]

All of them.

Then you can take half the year off for religious purposes.

[EvilDarkMagicians]

Choice is entirely up to you.
i think it's how you want to end...

If you like being crussified, choose judism.
If you like to be burned, choose christianity
If you like to blow yourself up together with flying parts from a blue prius, choose islam
If you like to fall into your own sword, choose Shintoism
If you like to die by a bus because of karma, choose confusionism.
If you don't feel like dying, choose buddhism
If you see unicorns at random moments at like them to kill you, choose animism
If you like to die in battle and wage eternal war, choose Nordic paganism.

So what will it be ?

[Turanbirligi]

yehova and the sky god tengri

[Bottle]

I have posed this very question several times over the years, and been quite sincere about it. I've sat down with believers and told them that if they can honestly explain to me why I should worship their God then I'll give it all the fair consideration I can.

I've yet to be given any convincing reason to believe in any God. The best most people can come up with is something about the afterlife, but I don't particularly want an afterlife so that's not really a good bargaining chip with me. They sometimes try to threaten me with Hell or something, but that tends to backfire because I'm not willing to worship a being who would torture otherwise-innocent people for all eternity simply because they didn't worship correctly.

[Cross-Rhodes]

*sigh*

Did anyone here actually go to school for religion and theology? Thought not.

For those concerned about the "missing books" of the Bible - there are none. Sure, there are manuscripts from around the same time as the sixty-six books of the Bible, but that doesn't make them part of the Bible. The Bible, as we know it, was canonized by the Council of Trent in 1546 for Roman Catholics, the Thirty-Nine Articles of 1563 for the Church of England, the Westminster Confession of Faith of 1647 for British Calvinism, and the Synod of Jerusalem of 1672 for the Greek Orthodox.

Confused? You should be. People today generally lump all of these groups together today under the word "Christian", but their beliefs are so varied (including their collective Bibles), that it is absurd to do so.

However, were the beginning of this thread in serious note, I would respond to the first question - politics and personal opine aside. There is only one God, His names are many - but His character is singular. He is a just God, an honest God, and an almighty God. His power knows no bounds. He shows His strength by letting mortal man choose his own path. He is a God of love, for He wishes that all men be brought to a knowledge of His own clear salvation.

Religion aside, He is still God. His name is Counselor, Mighty God, Shepherd, Judge, Everlasting Father, and the Prince of Peace. Other people have known Him as Yahweh, El, Elohim, El Shaddai, Adonai, Jehovah, Jehovah-Jireh, Jehovah-Rophe, Jehovah-Nissi, Jehovah-M'Kaddesh, Jehovah-Shalom,
Jehovah-Elohim, Jehovah-Tsidkenu, Jehovah-Shammah, Jehovah-Sabaoth, and the list goes on for days.

Regardless of His afore-known titles, all of which He embodies and the truths behind them, He is one person incarnate. He is Jesus Christ. He is the Savior of the world and the Lover of my soul. He is the Alpha and Omega: the beginning and the end.

When all of our futile wars and struggles cease to exist - He will still be. When our pointless debates and puffed-up ideologies fail, yet again - He will still be. When religions war and kill (even sacrilegiously in His Name) and yet fail to cause any peace at all - He will still be. When prophets die and lie in their graves, mortal human flesh rotting - He lives on, and will live on. He has no beginning and no ending. He is everlasting - and He shares that with us; not that we are good enough to earn it on our own. His presence and glory is far too much for even the most chaste individual. He shares his love and eternal life with us...through death.

Jesus Christ did not come to the earth to judge or prepare for judgment, but He came to seek and to save. How little we understand of this infinite God. Our finite minds stick Him a preconceived box, and in our small minds, He could either be a boy with a magnifying glass looking over an ant hill, or perhaps a God who loves death and destruction.

The fact is, God is God. No amount of blathering on about the "logic" of evolution refutes His existence - it never has and never will. The very existence of common design within our world speaks of His creation.

Which God should you worship? There really is no choice. There is only one God. One day, regardless of your philosophical beliefs, this is the God you will worship. You will do it in fear or in love, but it will be done. The mightiest man on earth will bow his knee and worship this God Most High.

But don't take my word for it - ask Him.

[Kantria]

But don't take my word for it - ask Him.

I did. He said you're wrong.

[Bottle]

*sigh*

Did anyone here actually go to school for religion and theology? Thought not.
*snip*

But don't take my word for it - ask Him.

I really, really hope you didn't actually go to school in order to "learn" that load of...declarative prose that you just posted. If you did then please share the name of the institution so that we can all make sure to avoid being bilked by them.

[Cross-Rhodes]

*sigh*

Did anyone here actually go to school for religion and theology? Thought not.
*snip*

But don't take my word for it - ask Him.

I really, really hope you didn't actually go to school in order to "learn" that load of...declarative prose that you just posted. If you did then please share the name of the institution so that we can all make sure to avoid being bilked by them.

No, no. the part that I went to school for was the part that you "Snipped". You know, the factual information about the missing books of the Bible that quite a few posts have been trudging through. Just thought I'd help here.

The rest of the "declarative prose" as you term it (and I actually did learn writing in college...) is all of my own experience. I don't believe you go to school so that they can fill you with their own moral and religious beliefs.

Still, I deeply appreciate your concern as to my education. When critiquing a narrative or reply, it is always best to use it in context - that is taught in debate, in case you were wondering.

But don't take my word for it - ask Him.

I did. He said you're wrong.

Ha! I admit, I had a good chuckle on this one.

Now. Ask Him for real.

[EvilDarkMagicians]

I did. He said you're wrong.

Ha! I admit, I had a good chuckle on this one.

Now. Ask Him for real. [/quote]

I actually did. I said it in my head. He said your wrong.
I said it out loud(even if it was a little ridiculous). He still said your wrong.
WHEN WILL YOU ACCEPT THE WORD OF GOD?

[Bottle]

The rest of the "declarative prose" as you term it (and I actually did learn writing in college...) is all of my own experience. I don't believe you go to school so that they can fill you with their own moral and religious beliefs.

But you'd hopefully go so that you can learn how to read and think critically and answer a simple question, eh?

I really don't understand what's so hard about this for people. If somebody asks you to give them REASONS and CONVINCE THEM of a course of action, then posting your warm fuzzy feelings about your personal God-beliefs is worthless. Your unfounded, unsupported opinions about the divine are completely and utterly irrelevant unless you can give SOME reason, ANY reason, why somebody else should believe your view as opposed to the zillions of other views out there.

[Cross-Rhodes]

But you'd hopefully go so that you can learn how to read and think critically and answer a simple question, eh?

I really don't understand what's so hard about this for people. If somebody asks you to give them REASONS and CONVINCE THEM of a course of action, then posting your warm fuzzy feelings about your personal God-beliefs is worthless. Your unfounded, unsupported opinions about the divine are completely and utterly irrelevant unless you can give SOME reason, ANY reason, why somebody else should believe your view as opposed to the zillions of other views out there.

I can answer a simple question, critically - perhaps. My post of prose was not intended to answer your question in the post that preceded mine, as I had not read it.

My answer is simple, as well: you cannot convince somebody to do or believe anything if they do not want to. If it really meant all that much to you, you would do study on your own to develop your views. This thread was started in complete and utter sarcasm, and I responded with my own personal beliefs. You don't agree? That is fine. It is not, however, and never has been my duty to convince you of my beliefs. Your beliefs and their basis are your own issue.

Besides, let's be honest, you don't really care anyways.

I did. He said you're wrong.

Ha! I admit, I had a good chuckle on this one.

Now. Ask Him for real.

I actually did. I said it in my head. He said your wrong.
I said it out loud(even if it was a little ridiculous). He still said your wrong.
WHEN WILL YOU ACCEPT THE WORD OF GOD? [/quote]

Haha! Touché.