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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:09 pm

Krakadarek wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:afraid?

actively afraid?

What do you mean?


no. what do YOU mean

you write that you are just afraid of misandrysts. i wondered what you meant by that.

personally i find misandrists to be mostly pathetic.
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Postby Krakadarek » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:10 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Krakadarek wrote:What do you mean?


no. what do YOU mean

you write that you are just afraid of misandrysts. i wondered what you meant by that.

personally i find misandrists to be mostly pathetic.

What do you mean with activly afraid?
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:11 pm

Ipian wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:How are equal rights for men and women horrible?

They aren't. But "Ban Bossy" is. Men and Women should be equal :hug: , but we are now getting MAN HATING Feminists.


Why is "Ban Bossy" horrible? It's not a call for an actual legal ban, but rather a call for leadership skills in young girls to be recognized in the same way that they'r'e recognized in young boys. If my daughter has the ability to lead and organize her peer group in activities, I don't want some well-meaning teacher gently explaining to her that it's bad to be bossy, so long as she's not forcing anyone to go along with the activity.

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:12 pm

Krakadarek wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
no. what do YOU mean

you write that you are just afraid of misandrysts. i wondered what you meant by that.

personally i find misandrists to be mostly pathetic.

What do you mean with activly afraid?

as in actually worried that some misandrist is going to do something bad to you in the near future.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:12 pm

Anubas wrote:
The Serbian Empire wrote:I fear the volume of reblogs is enough proof, but I have more sources. Of course, I can drag out the countless videos from the likes of Femitheist Divine and footage of Chanty Binx.

but all these sources are just bloggers. as I said before, the Internet is full of radicals in every group. again I could pull up tumblr posts and the like of people calling these people out or preaching equality for all. wouldn't that balance it out to 'some feminists are good, some are bad'?

They may be numerous enough to alter the image of feminism to the point of looking like female supremacists thus the word many feminists instead of most. They fortunately aren't the majority of the feminists.
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Postby Ipian » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:13 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Ipian wrote:They aren't. But "Ban Bossy" is. Men and Women should be equal :hug: , but we are now getting MAN HATING Feminists.


Why is "Ban Bossy" horrible? It's not a call for an actual legal ban, but rather a call for leadership skills in young girls to be recognized in the same way that they'r'e recognized in young boys. If my daughter has the ability to lead and organize her peer group in activities, I don't want some well-meaning teacher gently explaining to her that it's bad to be bossy, so long as she's not forcing anyone to go along with the activity.

This explains it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVKyesBzDAs

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:13 pm

Ipian wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Why is "Ban Bossy" horrible? It's not a call for an actual legal ban, but rather a call for leadership skills in young girls to be recognized in the same way that they'r'e recognized in young boys. If my daughter has the ability to lead and organize her peer group in activities, I don't want some well-meaning teacher gently explaining to her that it's bad to be bossy, so long as she's not forcing anyone to go along with the activity.

This explains it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVKyesBzDAs

why don't YOU explain it instead
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Postby Krakadarek » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:14 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Krakadarek wrote:What do you mean with activly afraid?

as in actually worried that some misandrist is going to do something bad to you in the near future.

They allready have when i was young.
I cant tell. Its a feeling.
Maybe...
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Postby Greater Femocracy » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:15 pm

Swedish Realm wrote:
Greater Femocracy wrote:
Why a woman should look for an husband?
A wife is much better!

Ohhh, I don't know. Maybe women want to have children, and not all want to be lesbian/bisexual?


A woman can have a children, even without a man. The problem you described was solved long ago. Never heard of artificial insemination?
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Postby Greater Femocracy » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:18 pm

Kyuji wrote:
Greater Femocracy wrote:
Why a woman should look for an husband?
A wife is much better!

Yes and let all men find husbands


Of course, they are free to do so. But I don't think it is a good idea. Because two men cannot have childrens. Two lesbians, instead...
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Perfection is not a goal but a way.

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Postby Sefard » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:19 pm

Greater Femocracy wrote:
Swedish Realm wrote:Ohhh, I don't know. Maybe women want to have children, and not all want to be lesbian/bisexual?


A woman can have a children, even without a man. The problem you described was solved long ago. Never heard of artificial insemination?


Still requires a man.

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Postby Ipian » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:20 pm

Ashmoria wrote:

why don't YOU explain it instead

Because that is exactly what I think. (Less effort)

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Postby Greater Femocracy » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:23 pm

Cyyro wrote:There are feminists, then there are Female Supremacists, the latter are annoying as hell.


There are also more extreme versions than simply Female Supremacists...
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It's my own business! But very often the views expressed as In-Char are perfectly superposable to OoC.


Be very careful of “saints”, they are evil.

I am more interested to my consciousness than to the opinion of others.

I expect nothing. I fear no one. I am free.

Perfection is not a goal but a way.

The real problem is not to give answers but to ask the real questions.

Think evil isn't polite, but often you guess.

Who doesn't fight has already lost.

Who is always right, is wrong born.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:27 pm

Greater Femocracy wrote:
Cyyro wrote:There are feminists, then there are Female Supremacists, the latter are annoying as hell.


There are also more extreme versions than simply Female Supremacists...


Although those versions only appear online, and they are so in the minority as nobody worth the time or their salt is going to pay attention to them.
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Postby Greater Femocracy » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:27 pm

Sefard wrote:
Greater Femocracy wrote:
A woman can have a children, even without a man. The problem you described was solved long ago. Never heard of artificial insemination?


Still requires a man.


Still a little.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/25/opini ... .html?_r=0
http://lesbianlife.about.com/cs/familie ... enesis.htm
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Story?id=4725121&page=1
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It's my own business! But very often the views expressed as In-Char are perfectly superposable to OoC.


Be very careful of “saints”, they are evil.

I am more interested to my consciousness than to the opinion of others.

I expect nothing. I fear no one. I am free.

Perfection is not a goal but a way.

The real problem is not to give answers but to ask the real questions.

Think evil isn't polite, but often you guess.

Who doesn't fight has already lost.

Who is always right, is wrong born.

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Postby Greater Femocracy » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:32 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Greater Femocracy wrote:
There are also more extreme versions than simply Female Supremacists...


Although those versions only appear online, and they are so in the minority as nobody worth the time or their salt is going to pay attention to them.


As the Nazis in 1924? :rofl:
Don't be afraid: I'm just kidding!
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It's my own business! But very often the views expressed as In-Char are perfectly superposable to OoC.


Be very careful of “saints”, they are evil.

I am more interested to my consciousness than to the opinion of others.

I expect nothing. I fear no one. I am free.

Perfection is not a goal but a way.

The real problem is not to give answers but to ask the real questions.

Think evil isn't polite, but often you guess.

Who doesn't fight has already lost.

Who is always right, is wrong born.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:32 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Where did he specify that women should stay home? If wages reflect the supposition that a family consists of two working people they'll naturally be lower. Dividing up the work is just good policy, one person working and the other handling the home is just more productive.


what is more productive about it? there just isn't that much to do all day at home.


Well, I would see it if the couple wants to have children and they do though.

Some people think someone has to take care of the children, and some people just don't trust a nanny (I don't trust a baby sitter or a nanny, if I could I would take care of a child of mine when I have them with my SO and she goes to work if we can maintain our standard of living on only her income, or vice versa; but she and I would need to discuss it, and if it doesn't seem advantageous we'll both work and have to hire a nanny out of necessity.).
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Postby Kyuji » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:33 pm

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:34 pm

Greater Femocracy wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Although those versions only appear online, and they are so in the minority as nobody worth the time or their salt is going to pay attention to them.


As the Nazis in 1924? :rofl:
Don't be afraid: I'm just kidding!
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I would hope people learned from back then to not be stupid enough to believe such extremist tripe.

But hey, what do I know? People are stupid so w/e. When that happens I just hope to be long dead by then.
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Postby Greater Femocracy » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:38 pm



All! :rofl:
Sorry you didn't read carefully.
The last line of the breed of two men:
"so the embryos created from the two men will have to be implanted into a surrogate mother to deliver the baby."
:rofl:
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Be very careful of “saints”, they are evil.

I am more interested to my consciousness than to the opinion of others.

I expect nothing. I fear no one. I am free.

Perfection is not a goal but a way.

The real problem is not to give answers but to ask the real questions.

Think evil isn't polite, but often you guess.

Who doesn't fight has already lost.

Who is always right, is wrong born.

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Postby Greater Femocracy » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:40 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Greater Femocracy wrote:
As the Nazis in 1924? :rofl:
Don't be afraid: I'm just kidding!
Witty response, congratulations ...


I would hope people learned from back then to not be stupid enough to believe such extremist tripe.

But hey, what do I know? People are stupid so w/e. When that happens I just hope to be long dead by then.


OoC: I fully agree with everything you wrote.
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Be very careful of “saints”, they are evil.

I am more interested to my consciousness than to the opinion of others.

I expect nothing. I fear no one. I am free.

Perfection is not a goal but a way.

The real problem is not to give answers but to ask the real questions.

Think evil isn't polite, but often you guess.

Who doesn't fight has already lost.

Who is always right, is wrong born.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:42 pm

Greater Femocracy wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
I would hope people learned from back then to not be stupid enough to believe such extremist tripe.

But hey, what do I know? People are stupid so w/e. When that happens I just hope to be long dead by then.


OoC: I fully agree with everything you wrote.


I know :p I'm just being a bit of a humanist right now :lol:
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Postby Kyuji » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:42 pm

Greater Femocracy wrote:


All! :rofl:
Sorry you didn't read carefully.
The last line of the breed of two men:
"so the embryos created from the two men will have to be implanted into a surrogate mother to deliver the baby."
:rofl:

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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:48 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
what is more productive about it? there just isn't that much to do all day at home.


Well, I would see it if the couple wants to have children and they do though.

Some people think someone has to take care of the children, and some people just don't trust a nanny (I don't trust a baby sitter or a nanny, if I could I would take care of a child of mine when I have them with my SO and she goes to work if we can maintain our standard of living on only her income, or vice versa; but she and I would need to discuss it, and if it doesn't seem advantageous we'll both work and have to hire a nanny out of necessity.).

which is fine until we are suggesting that tax money go to your family because you don't trust nannies.

and of course it depends on how many children you have. taking care of babies is boring but after 3-4 years the kid goes to school and you have time that you could be devoting to working at something a tad more interesting.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:52 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Well, I would see it if the couple wants to have children and they do though.

Some people think someone has to take care of the children, and some people just don't trust a nanny (I don't trust a baby sitter or a nanny, if I could I would take care of a child of mine when I have them with my SO and she goes to work if we can maintain our standard of living on only her income, or vice versa; but she and I would need to discuss it, and if it doesn't seem advantageous we'll both work and have to hire a nanny out of necessity.).

which is fine until we are suggesting that tax money go to your family because you don't trust nannies.

and of course it depends on how many children you have. taking care of babies is boring but after 3-4 years the kid goes to school and you have time that you could be devoting to working at something a tad more interesting.


Yea, I would not go as far as to incentivize a tax to go to the family because they don't trust nannies in actuality thinking about it a bit better.

And yes, it does depend on how many children you have. However, in general, I was thinking of the first 3 or 4 years of life, when the child is 24/7 at home. So that becomes almost a full-time job in and of itself taking care of a child, in my opinion.
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