Does True Feminism Exist Anymore?

[Anubas]

it's just what you said. a weird little sarcastic back and forth.

So it's not actually contributing anything to the thread?

no, but is a little joking around going to hurt? is joking around not allo--

it's just what you said. a weird little sarcastic back and forth.

Well, stop it. NSG is super serious business, no humour allowed ever.
*nods*

oh. I'll go be a mindless robot now and bicker with butthurt anti-feminists, if that's the case.

[Des-Bal]

A little from column a, a little from column b. The internet is a great place for people with radical views as by their nature there's not many of them in a given area. Via the internet you can have a virtual community of functional size for the most obscure things.

Well that's certainly the case but it's the case with EVERYTHING. The case the OP's making isn't really about feminazi misandry it's about policies supported by mainstream feminism. I don't that's the result of hijacking or the loudest voices being heard it's just that gender inequality is still a thing and that how to address it isn't as straight forward now that the situation improves. We have suffrage for women, coeducation, and there's no longer anything strange about a woman working. With the fires put out the next moves aren't as apparent and there's controversy about what does and does not constitute an appropriate measure.

[Dyakovo]

So it's not actually contributing anything to the thread?

no, but is a little joking around going to hurt? is joking around not allo--

Well, stop it. NSG is super serious business, no humour allowed ever.
*nods*

oh. I'll go be a mindless robot now and bicker with butthurt anti-feminists, if that's the case.

Much better.
*nods*

[Des-Bal]

no, but is a little joking around going to hurt?

Quite possibly. The reason a lot of threads get locked is because this joking around tends to go on for pages.

Feel free to joke around, jokes are lovely just try to also be discussing something.

[Ashmoria]

Indeed. Stay at home dads can sometimes be of help. ESPECIALLY if the woman is the one with the higher income. If both don't need to work to maintain a good standard of living then in my opinion one should relegate more time to the house and what goes on in it, independently of whether this is the man or the woman in the relationship.

And the stigma of stay-at-home dads stem from the fact that it seems effeminate to stay at home and take care of things. I can cook and clean the house same as a woman as well as learn how to take care of a child, so I feel there shouldn't be a huge deal about a male wanting to do a woman's work or a woman doing a man's work. Then again, I also grew up in a family where women do manly things like be aggressive/assertive and can use power tools so

The government should really set up economic policies so that middle class families, and even poor families, can live with one income. We were able to do it 50 to 60 years and even less time ago, there is no reason why we can't do it now, especially with the increase in technology and productivity. Simply put, the money is not going to the people it should be. Additionally, to be frank, women in the workforce makes it easier to lower everyone's salary.

what makes you think that women would prefer to stay home?

[Des-Bal]

I suppose not. You don't have much room to point fingers at this point, however.

Really? Because just about all my posts include an argument or an attempt to analyze someone else's argument.

[Sefard]

The government should really set up economic policies so that middle class families, and even poor families, can live with one income. We were able to do it 50 to 60 years and even less time ago, there is no reason why we can't do it now, especially with the increase in technology and productivity. Simply put, the money is not going to the people it should be. Additionally, to be frank, women in the workforce makes it easier to lower everyone's salary.

what makes you think that women would prefer to stay home?

I said nothing about them preferring to stay home.

[Anubas]

no, but is a little joking around going to hurt?

Quite possibly. The reason a lot of threads get locked is because this joking around tends to go on for pages.

Feel free to joke around, jokes are lovely just try to also be discussing something.

being only here for about a week I hadn't really known. course I couldn't joke around enough to last for pages; my sense of humor is too shitty to last long.

will keep that in mind.

[Ashmoria]

what makes you think that women would prefer to stay home?

I said nothing about them preferring to stay home.

no you did not. and if i assume you didn't mean to suggest that women be forced to stay home i think you need to think this all through some more.

if it is possible for a family to subsist on ONE income it will always do better with 2 incomes thus kinda negating the effect of monkeying with things until it is possible to do well with one income.

[Sefard]

I said nothing about them preferring to stay home.

no you did not. and if i assume you didn't mean to suggest that women be forced to stay home i think you need to think this all through some more.

if it is possible for a family to subsist on ONE income it will always do better with 2 incomes thus kinda negating the effect of monkeying with things until it is possible to do well with one income.

Not necessarily. When you are able to live on one income, adding another income will sacrifice a healthy household, which only leads to greater social costs. This is why I proposed the Spousal Stipend.

[Lunalia]

I wish for a day when quotas are no longer needed, but I am not entirely certain that they aren't needed anymore.

There still exists some educational bias, where schools that tend to cater to minorities tend to receive less funding, and so minorities tend to get less good of an education, and so are not able to score as high on standardized tests as others, regardless of whether they're smart enough or not. Quotas allow schools to let students who may be able to excel once given access to a better education in, even though they may not have as impressive test scores as another student.

Additionally, some households still teach that young girls shouldn't be at all interested in learning, and should be content with doing housework for the men of the house. Young girls under this parenting style would probably not receive the time they would need to complete their homework as well as they could. Quotas, again, give those who weren't able to make the most of their pre college/university years, but who have the basic mental abilities to compete with those who were able to make the most of those years, a chance to have the same post high school eduction as others of their basic intelligence level.

If everyone could be guaranteed to get the same education, the same lifestyle at home, quotas wouldn't be needed. But unfortunately, that's not the case.

[The Serbian Empire]

I wish for a day when quotas are no longer needed, but I am not entirely certain that they aren't needed anymore.

There still exists some educational bias, where schools that tend to cater to minorities tend to receive less funding, and so minorities tend to get less good of an education, and so are not able to score as high on standardized tests as others, regardless of whether they're smart enough or not. Quotas allow schools to let students who may be able to excel once given access to a better education in, even though they may not have as impressive test scores as another student.

Additionally, some households still teach that young girls shouldn't be at all interested in learning, and should be content with doing housework for the men of the house. Young girls under this parenting style would probably not receive the time they would need to complete their homework as well as they could. Quotas, again, give those who weren't able to make the most of their pre college/university years, but who have the basic mental abilities to compete with those who were able to make the most of those years, a chance to have the same post high school eduction as others of their basic intelligence level.

If everyone could be guaranteed to get the same education, the same lifestyle at home, quotas wouldn't be needed. But unfortunately, that's not the case.

The problem is the quotas will probably never go away as one can't cure religious zealotry.

[The Serbian Empire]

It does, but many of the feminists are really female supremacists.

And, of course, you can back you that claim...

Welcome to Tumblr and if you search long enough you will find feminists who want to castrate men, fascists who believe My Little Pony promotes white nationalism, and people who are aroused by blood and gore. The problem is how popular some of the castration feminists are. They can get a couple thousand reblogs for some of their posts.

[Ashmoria]

no you did not. and if i assume you didn't mean to suggest that women be forced to stay home i think you need to think this all through some more.

if it is possible for a family to subsist on ONE income it will always do better with 2 incomes thus kinda negating the effect of monkeying with things until it is possible to do well with one income.

Not necessarily. When you are able to live on one income, adding another income will sacrifice a healthy household, which only leads to greater social costs. This is why I proposed the Spousal Stipend.

supposing that women would prefer to stay home. supposing that the spousal stipend might substitute for the wages of a good job.

[Des-Bal]

supposing that women would prefer to stay home. supposing that the spousal stipend might substitute for the wages of a good job.

Where did he specify that women should stay home? If wages reflect the supposition that a family consists of two working people they'll naturally be lower. Dividing up the work is just good policy, one person working and the other handling the home is just more productive.

[Ipian]

Well Feminism is horrible, so...

How are equal rights for men and women horrible?

They aren't. But "Ban Bossy" is. Men and Women should be equal , but we are now getting MAN HATING Feminists.

[Anubas]

And, of course, you can back you that claim...

Welcome to Tumblr and if you search long enough you will find feminists who want to castrate men, fascists who believe My Little Pony promotes white nationalism, and people who are aroused by blood and gore. The problem is how popular some of the castration feminists are. They can get a couple thousand reblogs for some of their posts.

hi, I post on tumblr and can't deny that that does happen. but is tumblr that good of an example? dumb ideologies (or someone like that) pointed out that radicals of any group flock to the Internet. so of course you can pull up examples from social media, but i could also pull up some examples of tumblr posts, with hundreds or thousands of notes, mind you, promoting feminism that isn't misandrist.

do you have any examples that aren't tumblr?

[Krakadarek]

Welcome to Tumblr and if you search long enough you will find feminists who want to castrate men, fascists who believe My Little Pony promotes white nationalism, and people who are aroused by blood and gore. The problem is how popular some of the castration feminists are. They can get a couple thousand reblogs for some of their posts.

hi, I post on tumblr and can't deny that that does happen. but is tumblr that good of an example? dumb ideologies (or someone like that) pointed out that radicals of any group flock to the Internet. so of course you can pull up examples from social media, but i could also pull up some examples of tumblr posts, with hundreds or thousands of notes, mind you, promoting feminism that isn't misandrist.

do you have any examples that aren't tumblr?

Whats your opinion off men?

[Ashmoria]

supposing that women would prefer to stay home. supposing that the spousal stipend might substitute for the wages of a good job.

Where did he specify that women should stay home? If wages reflect the supposition that a family consists of two working people they'll naturally be lower. Dividing up the work is just good policy, one person working and the other handling the home is just more productive.

what is more productive about it? there just isn't that much to do all day at home.

[The Serbian Empire]

Welcome to Tumblr and if you search long enough you will find feminists who want to castrate men, fascists who believe My Little Pony promotes white nationalism, and people who are aroused by blood and gore. The problem is how popular some of the castration feminists are. They can get a couple thousand reblogs for some of their posts.

hi, I post on tumblr and can't deny that that does happen. but is tumblr that good of an example? dumb ideologies (or someone like that) pointed out that radicals of any group flock to the Internet. so of course you can pull up examples from social media, but i could also pull up some examples of tumblr posts, with hundreds or thousands of notes, mind you, promoting feminism that isn't misandrist.

do you have any examples that aren't tumblr?

I fear the volume of reblogs is enough proof, but I have more sources. Of course, I can drag out the countless videos from the likes of Femitheist Divine and footage of Chanty Binx.

[Anubas]

hi, I post on tumblr and can't deny that that does happen. but is tumblr that good of an example? dumb ideologies (or someone like that) pointed out that radicals of any group flock to the Internet. so of course you can pull up examples from social media, but i could also pull up some examples of tumblr posts, with hundreds or thousands of notes, mind you, promoting feminism that isn't misandrist.

do you have any examples that aren't tumblr?

Whats your opinion off men?

being a man and all I have no problem with them. are some men shitty? yeah. are some men great? yeah. we're a large group of people, and i believe that this group is too large to judge in the aspect of whether or not I like us.

[Krakadarek]

I am.just afraid of misandrysts.
Thats all.

[Ashmoria]

I am.just afraid of misandrysts.
Thats all.

afraid?

actively afraid?

[Krakadarek]

I am.just afraid of misandrysts.
Thats all.

afraid?

actively afraid?

What do you mean?

[Anubas]

hi, I post on tumblr and can't deny that that does happen. but is tumblr that good of an example? dumb ideologies (or someone like that) pointed out that radicals of any group flock to the Internet. so of course you can pull up examples from social media, but i could also pull up some examples of tumblr posts, with hundreds or thousands of notes, mind you, promoting feminism that isn't misandrist.

do you have any examples that aren't tumblr?

I fear the volume of reblogs is enough proof, but I have more sources. Of course, I can drag out the countless videos from the likes of Femitheist Divine and footage of Chanty Binx.

but all these sources are just bloggers. as I said before, the Internet is full of radicals in every group. again I could pull up tumblr posts and the like of people calling these people out or preaching equality for all. wouldn't that balance it out to 'some feminists are good, some are bad'?