Abortion

[Teh ebil mozlemz]

What is your opinion on abortion?

[Maurepas]

You would, wouldnt you?

[Angleter]

In before the 'OH JEEZ NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN' pic.

[Verzia]

It shouldn't be legal, unless:

Raped

In danger of dieing

The baby has a defect[/list]

[Zaddaa]

Personally, I do not believe that abortion is a good idea, and would never have one myself or advise others to do so, but I more strongly believe that the government does not have the right to tell you what you can and cannot do with your own body.

[The Aryan Third Reich]

One of worst things you can say to someone:
You were a failed abortion!

[The Alma Mater]

Tsktsk. There is still an active topic on this
So shall we abort this one ?

[Teh ebil mozlemz]

It shouldn't be legal, unless:

[list=10]Raped

In danger of diyeing

The baby has a defect[/list]

Corrected

[The Tofu Islands]

In before the 'OH JEEZ NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN' pic.

We’re in the abortion phase.

I always forget whether it’s gay marriage or evolution next. I think gay marriage.

Tsktsk. There is still an active topic on this
So shall we abort this one ?

This one is more general/broad then the other.

Anyway, my answer is that I think it should be legal until around 24 weeks or so (when the foetus is both viable and starts getting brain activity (my figure might be a bit off, but oh well)). I wouldn’t encourage it though, and it’s not any of my business whether a woman chooses it or not.

[The Tofu Islands]

It shouldn't be legal, unless:

[list=10]Raped

In danger of diyeing

The baby has a defect[/list]

Corrected

Fail.

[The Alma Mater]

One of worst things you can say to someone:
You were a failed abortion!

Unless that person is religious. Then they can spin it to say "God wanted you to live".

[Andaluciae]

Pants.


Pantspantspantspantspants.

Oh god we're doomed he looked in the mirror, said pants six times and spun around. Oh god no, oh god no!

[Araraukar]

I wonder if this thread shouldn't be reported to moderators as huge troll-bait in its entirety...

EDIT: I'm pro-abortion. Not pro-choice, mind you, just pro-abortion.
(Human species could do with some pruning, and it's easiest to do when they don't yet have a voice.)

[Tokos]

It shouldn't be legal, unless:

Raped

In danger of dieing

The baby has a defect[/list]

What defects?

[The Alma Mater]

Tsktsk. There is still an active topic on this
So shall we abort this one ?

This one is more general/broad then the other.

Anyway, my answer is that I think it should be legal until around 24 weeks or so (when the foetus is both viable and starts getting brain activity (my figure might be a bit off, but oh well)). I wouldn’t encourage it though, and it’s not any of my business whether a woman chooses it or not.

Fair enough, and I agree with the principle of your statement. Before the fetus has a brain and neural net it cannot have experiences, hopes, dreams or whatever - and I do therefor not see it as a human. It certainly is human tissue - but so are hairs, skin cells and various other assorted bits of my body.

[Angleter]

In before the 'OH JEEZ NOT THIS SHIT AGAIN' pic.

We’re in the abortion phase.

I always forget whether it’s gay marriage or evolution next. I think gay marriage.

Tsktsk. There is still an active topic on this
So shall we abort this one ?

This one is more general/broad then the other.

Anyway, my answer is that I think it should be legal until around 24 weeks or so (when the foetus is both viable and starts getting brain activity (my figure might be a bit off, but oh well)). I wouldn’t encourage it though, and it’s not any of my business whether a woman chooses it or not.

I thought it was time for someone to try to disprove/prove the existence of God next.

[The Tofu Islands]

I wonder if this thread shouldn't be reported to moderators as huge troll-bait in its entirety...

Nah, we’ve had ones before that weren’t objected to.

EDIT: I'm pro-abortion. Not pro-choice, mind you, just pro-abortion.
(Human species could do with some pruning, and it's easiest to do when they don't yet have a voice.)

Out of curiosity, does this mean you’d support enforcing abortion? Or just that you’d encourage it? If it’s the second, then you’re still pro-choice.

EDIT:

I thought it was time for someone to try to disprove/prove the existence of God next.

Yeah, you may be right. I can never remember how the cycles go.

EDIT2: Fuck, messed up a quote. I hardly ever do that.

[Farnhamia]

It shouldn't be legal, unless:

Raped

In danger of dieing

The baby has a defect[/list]

What defects?

Yes, what defects, indeed? And one assumes then that Verzia supports freely available contraception plus comprehensive sex educations in the schools. Those will certainly reduce the number of abortions.

[Maurepas]

Maurepas approves of this new fangled "Ignoring overdone topics"

[Angleter]

Y'anyways, I'll post a serious reply:

Abortion should be legal in the following cases:

-Endangerment of the life of the mother;
-Serious physical health risk of the mother;
-The child being the product of rape or incest;
-The child having an incurable condition that will most likely kill it within two years;
-On demand pending thorough psychological assessment (ie. how desperately does the mother need it) up to 10 weeks (this prevents backstreet abortions becoming rife).

Oh, and contraception is available and sex education goes as follows:

-Reserve sex for serious relationships;
-If you are going to do it outside of a serious relationship use contraception;
-If you are going to do it inside of a serious relationship and do not want children use contraception.

[Bunyippie]

someone pass me the TP for this shit storm

[Tokos]

Yes, what defects, indeed? And one assumes then that Verzia supports freely available contraception plus comprehensive sex educations in the schools. Those will certainly reduce the number of abortions.

There are many other ways to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies. Informal sex-segregation (for instance single-sex schools) and terrifying the youngins into obedience being two off the top of my head that were traditional in times past.

[INGSOC III]

Why do people continue to make threads about shit like this?! You aren't going to convince ANYBODY that their views are wrong and yours are right! So why try?

[The Tofu Islands]

Why do people continue to make threads about shit like this?! You aren't going to convince ANYBODY that their views are wrong and yours are right! So why try?

The people who you are likely to convince are not the ones you are arguing against. They are the numerous people who are just reading the thread and not posting, and often they may not be anywhere near as fixed in their beliefs as the debaters. My own views have been shaped by previous abortion threads, so I know it’s happened at least once.

[The Alma Mater]

Yes, what defects, indeed? And one assumes then that Verzia supports freely available contraception plus comprehensive sex educations in the schools. Those will certainly reduce the number of abortions.

There are many other ways to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies. Informal sex-segregation (for instance single-sex schools) and terrifying the youngins into obedience being two off the top of my head that were traditional in times past.

Don't forget gay relationships. They're the future you know.