What is the Best Form of Communism?

[Constantinopolis]

It's not so much a vice of capitalism as it is a virtue. The uneven sharing of blessings is beautiful.

Tell that to this guy.

[Vazdania]

Corporations can't abuse you.

If they're well regulated then they can't.

If they are 'well regulated' as you put it, then the state is abusing you.

[Kelinfort]

I volunteer you to be on the bottom with me.

You volunteer me? I don't consent...sorry!

Hackers don't care.

Also, if you're truly productive, I'll give up my wealth to try it to. First to succeed gets his money back.

[Mkuki]

How so? There is only 1 communism....That is, a classless stateless moneyless society.

It's really weird to hear commies claim that Marxism is the only form of communism, and that all other forms are "state capitalism" or some similar bullshit, then to turn around and see a list of the different forms of "communism". Which is it?

I think you'll find that most communists would not consider Marxism to be the true form communism. As far as I can tell communism is an economic system through which a stateless, classless, moneyless, nonhierarchical is achieved by the workers. The different "forms" are not actually different forms of communism, as communism is only one thing (that which I just defined). The more accurate term would be "path". By this I mean that the state-centric Stalinism is a path to achieving true communism. The same goes for Trotskyism, anarcho-communism, etc.

The same goes for socialism in that socialism, and all its variants, are just paths to achieving communism. At least for the communists, that is.

[Personal Freedom]

Best Communism

[Pandeeria]

If they're well regulated then they can't.

If they are 'well regulated' as you put it, then the state is abusing you.

No, because the state isn't infringing on my freedoms and is protecting my interests and working standard from big businesses.

[Vazdania]

It's not so much a vice of capitalism as it is a virtue. The uneven sharing of blessings is beautiful.

Tell that to this guy.

Well, I'm not sure he can here me, but here goes!

"It's not so much a vice of capitalism as it is a virtue. The uneven sharing of blessings is beautiful."

[Vazdania]

If they are 'well regulated' as you put it, then the state is abusing you.

No, because the state isn't infringing on my freedoms and is protecting my interests and working standard from big businesses.

Then the state just hijacked your free speech and the rights of the corporation.

[Vareiln]

Third, you're bullshitting again. You may seriously want to get that checked, it can turn into something really nasty.

How so? There is only 1 communism....That is, a classless stateless moneyless society.

Well, yes, but there's more parts to the different ideas around that or how to achieve it. For example, some don't necessarily seek a moneyless society.

[The Liberated Territories]

If they are 'well regulated' as you put it, then the state is abusing you.

No, because the state isn't infringing on my freedoms and is protecting my interests and working standard from big businesses.

NSA, taxation, gun control, etc.

[Vazdania]

How so? There is only 1 communism....That is, a classless stateless moneyless society.

Well, yes, but there's more parts to the different ideas around that or how to achieve it. For example, some don't necessarily seek a moneyless society.

Well the so called varients that seek a society with money aren't actually communist.

[Vareiln]

Really? Then please, feel free to demonstrate your knowledge of the varieties and strains of communist thought and theory.

I am perfectly aware of the varieties of communism.

For some odd reason I doubt that.

[Vareiln]

Well, yes, but there's more parts to the different ideas around that or how to achieve it. For example, some don't necessarily seek a moneyless society.

Well the so called varients that seek a society with money aren't actually communist.

And thus begins the endless debates between the various schools of thoughts.

[Pandeeria]

No, because the state isn't infringing on my freedoms and is protecting my interests and working standard from big businesses.

NSA, taxation, gun control, etc.

I'm not talking about the US.

[The Liberated Territories]

Well, yes, but there's more parts to the different ideas around that or how to achieve it. For example, some don't necessarily seek a moneyless society.

Well the so called varients that seek a society with money aren't actually communist.

Great Scot!

[Personal Freedom]

Best Communism

Fixed

[The Liberated Territories]

NSA, taxation, gun control, etc.

I'm not talking about the US.

Then eliminate the NSA.

[Pandeeria]

No, because the state isn't infringing on my freedoms and is protecting my interests and working standard from big businesses.

Then the state just hijacked your free speech and the rights of the corporation.

It didn't hijack my right of free speech.
Corporations don't receive the right to deliberately give awful salaries, low working standards, no benefits, no health nor safety standards, etc.

[Socialist Czechia]

I consider myself to be classical Marxist with some Syndicalist tendencies, and I am shocked, that so many communists/socialists today don't have problems with religion.

Who has no problem with religion is no communist or even socialist for me.

It's just like feudalism. It outdated it's usefulness. If there was any at all times.

Only *censored* person can believe in talking dead guy at all.

[Pandeeria]

I'm not talking about the US.

Then eliminate the NSA.

They should liquidate NSA.

[Pandeeria]

I consider myself to be classical Marxist with some Syndicalist tendencies, and I am shocked, that so many communists/socialists today don't have problems with religion.

Who has no problem with religion is no communist or even socialist for me.

It's just like feudalism. It outdated it's usefulness. If there was any at all times.

Only *censored* person can believe in talking dead guy at all.

Should religious people be oppressed?

[Vareiln]

Best Communism

Papilionism is better.

[Vazdania]

Then the state just hijacked your free speech and the rights of the corporation.

It didn't hijack my right of free speech.
Corporations don't receive the right to deliberately give awful salaries, low working standards, no benefits, no health nor safety standards, etc.

Yes it did. You weren't given a say in what working conditions you wanted. The state presupposed you liked (or at least tolerated) those working conditions.

Yes they do.

It is your right (and the right of a union of labour) to contract with a corporation and determine your working condition, wage/salary,intensity of labour, and benefits.

[Mandicoria]

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[Kelinfort]

You volunteer me? I don't consent...sorry!

Hackers don't care.

Also, if you're truly productive, I'll give up my wealth to try it to. First to succeed gets his money back.