What is the Best Form of Communism?

[Vazdania]

I'm sorry you hate democracy, freedom, and equality.

Well, if you go by the most rigid definition of communism, it is a idealistic system that can never be achieved and sustained. If you go by the other types of communism, they are all varying degrees of authoritarian collectivism. The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings, the inherent virtue of communism is the equal sharing of misery.

It's not so much a vice of capitalism as it is a virtue. The uneven sharing of blessings is beautiful.

[Mkuki]

I find it best to ignore Vazdania. He'll draw you in like a spider, but then sit at the back of the web while you try to decipher his logical inconsistencies.

O_O This is the most glorious post about me ever. I love it.

No prob. I'm good at this stuff. Not really.

[Pilotto]

Third, you're bullshitting again. You may seriously want to get that checked, it can turn into something really nasty.

How so? There is only 1 communism....That is, a classless stateless moneyless society.

It's really weird to hear commies claim that Marxism is the only form of communism, and that all other forms are "state capitalism" or some similar bullshit, then to turn around and see a list of the different forms of "communism". Which is it?

[The Liberated Territories]

Well, if you go by the most rigid definition of communism, it is a idealistic system that can never be achieved and sustained. If you go by the other types of communism, they are all varying degrees of authoritarian collectivism. The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings, the inherent virtue of communism is the equal sharing of misery.

It's not so much a vice of capitalism as it is a virtue. The uneven sharing of blessings is beautiful.

Cut my taxes, statist.

[Vazdania]

How so? There is only 1 communism....That is, a classless stateless moneyless society.

It's really weird to hear commies claim that Marxism is the only form of communism, and that all other forms are "state capitalism" or some similar bullshit, then to turn around and see a list of the different forms of "communism". Which is it?

The only communism is a classless stateless moneyless society, if it doesn't meet these requirements then it is not communism, and it most likely a form of authoritarian leftism.

[Pandeeria]

Third, you're bullshitting again. You may seriously want to get that checked, it can turn into something really nasty.

How so? There is only 1 communism....That is, a classless stateless moneyless society.

There's Stalinism, which is a huge totalitarian state that looms over the means of production with our glorious forefather Joseph Stalin controlling everything in the name of the working class.

It's a quite a lovely system.

[Kelinfort]

Well, if you go by the most rigid definition of communism, it is a idealistic system that can never be achieved and sustained. If you go by the other types of communism, they are all varying degrees of authoritarian collectivism. The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings, the inherent virtue of communism is the equal sharing of misery.

It's not so much a vice of capitalism as it is a virtue. The uneven sharing of blessings is beautiful.

Inequality should be lessened, not to total equality mind you, but high inequality is not good for a developed economy.

Also, it sucks if you're on the bottom.

[Vazdania]

It's not so much a vice of capitalism as it is a virtue. The uneven sharing of blessings is beautiful.

Cut my taxes, statist.

Erm......I'm actually a Libertarian????

[Vazdania]

It's not so much a vice of capitalism as it is a virtue. The uneven sharing of blessings is beautiful.

Inequality should be lessened, not to total equality mind you, but high inequality is not good for a developed economy.

Also, it sucks if you're on the bottom.

Inequality should be allowed and socially accepted at all levels. There is absolutely no reason why it should be 'lessened.'

[Pandeeria]

It's not so much a vice of capitalism as it is a virtue. The uneven sharing of blessings is beautiful.

Inequality should be lessened, not to total equality mind you, but high inequality is not good for a developed economy.

Also, it sucks if you're on the bottom.

This ^

[The Liberated Territories]

Cut my taxes, statist.

Erm......I'm actually a Libertarian????

#stillstatist

Nah I am not an anarchist.

[Vazdania]

How so? There is only 1 communism....That is, a classless stateless moneyless society.

There's Stalinism, which is a huge totalitarian state that looms over the means of production with our glorious forefather Joseph Stalin controlling everything in the name of the working class.

It's a quite a lovely system.

That's not communism...You see, because there is a state.

[Pandeeria]

Inequality should be lessened, not to total equality mind you, but high inequality is not good for a developed economy.

Also, it sucks if you're on the bottom.

Inequality should be allowed and socially accepted at all levels. There is absolutely no reason why it should be 'lessened.'

Being crushed under the corporate boot shouldn't be allowed. Moderate Social equality should be achieved.

[Pandeeria]

There's Stalinism, which is a huge totalitarian state that looms over the means of production with our glorious forefather Joseph Stalin controlling everything in the name of the working class.

It's a quite a lovely system.

That's not communism...You see, because there is a state.

There are variants of all political systems and ideas. There is room for communist variants. When in reality are just Left-Wing, Authoritarian, Collectivist systems, they can still be considered a form of communism.

[Vazdania]

Inequality should be allowed and socially accepted at all levels. There is absolutely no reason why it should be 'lessened.'

Being crushed under the corporate boot shouldn't be allowed. Moderate Social equality should be achieved.

"The corporate boot" as you put it, exists as a means to organize you into a productive role in society. And yes it should be allowed to 'crush' you if you're not productive.

[Kelinfort]

Inequality should be lessened, not to total equality mind you, but high inequality is not good for a developed economy.

Also, it sucks if you're on the bottom.

Inequality should be allowed and socially accepted at all levels. There is absolutely no reason why it should be 'lessened.'

I volunteer you to be on the bottom with me.

[Personal Freedom]

Under the definition you guys are using only Utopian Socialism and Anarcho-communism are communist.

[Vazdania]

That's not communism...You see, because there is a state.

There are variants of all political systems and ideas. There is room for communist variants. When in reality are just Left-Wing, Authoritarian, Collectivist systems, they can still be considered a form of communism.

These variants are no more communist than a fly is a cow!

[Pandeeria]

Being crushed under the corporate boot shouldn't be allowed. Moderate Social equality should be achieved.

"The corporate boot" as you put it, exists as a means to organize you into a productive role in society. And yes it should be allowed to 'crush' you if you're not productive.

There's a difference between being organized to be a productive member of society and being abused by giant corporations.

[Vazdania]

Inequality should be allowed and socially accepted at all levels. There is absolutely no reason why it should be 'lessened.'

I volunteer you to be on the bottom with me.

You volunteer me? I don't consent...sorry!

[Socialist Czechia]

Equality. Actually funny topic. In Scandinavia, socialists are so confused, that they simply gave privileges to 'discriminated' groups, so now, inequality there was just reversed from one group to another.

That's not cool.

Equality should be understand literally. Equal chances for every human, but no privileges for anyone just because one group was bad another. That must end.

I hope I didnt insulted anyone.

If so, I am not mean, but you're just sissy

[Vazdania]

"The corporate boot" as you put it, exists as a means to organize you into a productive role in society. And yes it should be allowed to 'crush' you if you're not productive.

There's a difference between being organized to be a productive member of society and being abused by giant corporations.

Corporations can't abuse you.

[Seaxeland]

The best form of Communism is no Communism at all.

[Pandeeria]

There's a difference between being organized to be a productive member of society and being abused by giant corporations.

Corporations can't abuse you.

If they're well regulated then they can't.

[The Liberated Territories]

Equality. Actually funny topic. In Scandinavia, socialists are so confused, that they simply gave privileges to 'discriminated' groups, so now, inequality there was just reversed from one group to another.

That's not cool.

Equality should be understand literally. Equal chances for every human, but no privileges for anyone just because one group was bad another. That must end.

I hope I didnt insulted anyone.

If so, I am not mean, but you're just sissy

Sweden is good at staving off Darwin with their policies.